Firewood Vaporizer
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Brewervapesalot
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They out the bottom, i.e., down and out. Easy to pop back in, no big deal.
Sativapo
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I can't make my silicone tube of the glass tube fit tight enough by squeezing it anymore. If I squeeze it to the max it's barely acceptable for a few sessions without manipulating the mouthpiece too much. I first changed it for the spare like 2 months ago but now it's the same again. Did this happen to anyone ? Any ideas to fix that ?
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Brewervapesalot
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Speak with mark. In the meantime a couple wraps of teflon (plumbers) tape should work. Yellow is for gas and is thicker than the white stuff. About $2.
hard to say. I'd like to say a couple months, but in retrospect I think I often say it is a couple months away and probably said that a couple months ago. It is more certain this time though - I have the design pretty much 100% done in my head and most of the parts designed and ready to go. I still have some minor parts that need to be ironed out and then I need to spend at least a couple weeks on calibration improvements. I'd say a couple months to go...
Trulukkyphrank
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It needs the time it takes
I think everyone that owns one of your devices understands that you are doing a great job and sometimes it takes longer than expected to do something great! Quality controll is often underrated, good luck!! 
For me the Firewood 5 is the best vape I ever had for microdosing! If you just take one hit the on demand works very good! But if you take more hits in a row it can get hot in the oven and I would say trigger some conduction heating but it cools very fast down.
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Brewervapesalot
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What's the basic design (change(s))?
CABtheFISHKING
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Following this thread.
Trulukkyphrank
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I don't want to give away too much but here is what I can say...
The ceramic parts are expensive in terms of material and processing and also due to the tray system on fw5, they require tight tolerances, which also adds to the cost. Plus there are 4 ceramics parts on fw5, which is a lot. fw6 will only have 2 ceramic parts and the tolerances won't be nearly as tight. This should bring the price down a little bit and increase my capacity. It won't use a tray system or a capsule system, but instead will have more of a traditional bowl. At the same time there won't be any compromises in terms of portability and usage on the go, as it will have plenty of on board flower storage with an easy means to load the bowl as needed. The mouthpiece will retract fully to increase portability. Calibration will be improved and I'll probably make the heater a little more powerful. The size will be about the same as fw5, but have a much simpler shape.
Monk Debate
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I’m intrigued to see what solution you come up with for onboard storage and loading, IMO the biggest problem with most portable vapes. Dosing capsules are convenient but not without drawbacks.
I hope this isn’t just a compartment for loose flower and a built in stir tool that doubles as a loader, because that’s messy.
Brewervapesalot
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Sounds pretty good to me!
Still convection?
Not really improving the FW5; rather, a whole new design. Kinda sounds a bit like a more portable, wooden, MV1 with on board storage.
IMO this means get your FW5 while you can and then see if you like the different features of FW6 to buy that too. Not apples to apples comparison.
The tray system with five bowls preloaded, in a convection unit but still small and portable, was the most important feature for me. The cheap replaceable screens are awesome. Clearly, these features make the FW5 standout from all other units and designs. Without them, the firewood series is too similar to log vaporizers, which I think is an older, less attractive, design.
Depends on what you're looking for, but a less expensive unit is not what I desire. The manufacturer having tight tolerances and aiming for perfection is what attracts me to a hand made vaporizer, so don't lose that appeal... to increase ease of making and/or profit margins.
Having more expensive, quality parts, is pretty much selling point for me. Dont get me wrong, simplier when better is always good. But simpler and less expensive when sacrafising vapor quality or other features is not what creates VAS for me. Plenty of cheap, simple, vaporizers are out there, focusing on cheaper parts, and they have no appeal to me; when I buy vaporizers (and wood working tools or anything else), I dont buy the cheapest brands unless it's for short term, basically, throw away use.
In other words, I already have a couple mass produced Pax 2/3's (with 10 year warranties). These are what use when I want total portability (quickly load a chunk of bud with no grinding, super stealth, and pretty much water resistant) and don't care if I harm or lose the unit.
Maybe a convection style (wooden) Pax style design could work, but I think the FW5, with five bowls, largely already hit that goal of a convection vaporizer that could give you twenty minutes of vaporizing. I find myself torn between the two on the go.
As for a FW6, i'd rather pay (much) more, and have the unit's design focus on the best convection vapor production, best quality parts, adjustable temps, decent battery life, and have the ability to vaporize numerous bowls on the go without hassle, without capsules. It may be hard for me to want something without the easy of use as the tray system.
Also if it's less then $250 I kinda have to be convinced it's a quality unit because it seems that's hard to accomplish for manufacturers. FW5 did that.
Well you are pretty close, except I don't plan on it being messy
Let's put it this way - I'm a skier and if it isn't something I can load on a chairlift with snow falling then it won't pass my test.Yes the heater will be convection - very similar to fw5 but slightly larger. I also should have mentioned one of the biggest changes is that the bowl will be around 40-50% larger. I think this improves flavor a bit because you don't blast off all the terpenes quite as fast and also gives more flexibility since you can still load it less full due to the tapered shape the bowl will have. I do think this is a case of simpler is better. Trust me this isn't a move towards lower quality, in fact I was thinking about making the warranty longer, but still not sure on that. One challenge in all vaporizers is making a sealed air path. With fw5 there are too many locations where a seal needs to be made, partly due to the tray design. It has to have a good seal above and below the tray, above and below the L joint and where the glass tube enters the wood. This creates more places that need to be cleaned, more parts that need high tolerance, and more parts with the potential to break. fw6 only needs to have a good seal in 2 locations and at each location the design is improved over the seal methods on fw5.
I think fw5 only has one advatage over fw6 and even that will be debatable - how easy it is to load. It is really hard to beat the ease just sliding the tray in and out. However it comes with drawbacks - you have to remove the tray and turn it around for the last couple bowls
you still have to periodically reload the tray, and when you load 5 bowls far in advance you have to guess at how you are going to want to pack them. With fw6 there is never an overhanging tray that has to be rotated and reloaded. You load up an 1/8 of ground flower and a couple extra batteries and you are good for long time. The loading will be so streamlined that you'll be able to do it in the woods during a snowstorm, so even though it won't be as easy as sliding the tray out a notch, it will still be very easy.
Brewervapesalot
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I like it, especially the loading on the chair lift part; skier here too.
The over hanging tray never bothered me, just a FYI. I never turn the tray around. Why? Just be careful with the unit while its sticking out. Put back when done.
What about a circular disc like tray? 3 or 4 bowls drilled in one circular disc? Roll your thumb to turn the disc to put the bowl over the heater. Minimal sticking out, but still a few bowls...
The bigger bowl sounds ok, but test different sizes maybe, because one feature about the FW5 I love is that after a couple-four hits on high, I just go to the next bowl and bam--great flavor again. The vast majority of all hits in a tray taste great. Whereas I doubt one big bowl would do the same?
S & B products have big bowls. But that to me means lots of hits that taste like crap. I'd rather have a few nice hits then move on to fresh herb. Once herb tastes bad I dump, so a big bowl does not attract me too much; the small bowl lets u dump weed, with no stirring, when its pretty much cooked, and not too much waste.
That said if u can do the FW6 with lots of flavorful hits and not lots of crappy ones with green herb left--go for it!
The over hanging tray never bothered me, just a FYI. I never turn the tray around. Why? Just be careful with the unit while its sticking out. Put back when done.
What about a circular disc like tray? 3 or 4 bowls drilled in one circular disc? Roll your thumb to turn the disc to put the bowl over the heater. Minimal sticking out, but still a few bowls...
The bigger bowl sounds ok, but test different sizes maybe, because one feature about the FW5 I love is that after a couple-four hits on high, I just go to the next bowl and bam--great flavor again. The vast majority of all hits in a tray taste great. Whereas I doubt one big bowl would do the same?
S & B products have big bowls. But that to me means lots of hits that taste like crap. I'd rather have a few nice hits then move on to fresh herb. Once herb tastes bad I dump, so a big bowl does not attract me too much; the small bowl lets u dump weed, with no stirring, when its pretty much cooked, and not too much waste.
That said if u can do the FW6 with lots of flavorful hits and not lots of crappy ones with green herb left--go for it!
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Well you are pretty close, except I don't plan on it being messy
Yes the heater will be convection - very similar to fw5 but slightly larger. I also should have mentioned one of the biggest changes is that the bowl will be around 40-50% larger. I think this improves flavor a bit because you don't blast off all the terpenes quite as fast and also gives more flexibility since you can still load it less full due to the tapered shape the bowl will have. I do think this is a case of simpler is better. Trust me this isn't a move towards lower quality, in fact I was thinking about making the warranty longer, but still not sure on that. One challenge in all vaporizers is making a sealed air path. With fw5 there are too many locations where a seal needs to be made, partly due to the tray design. It has to have a good seal above and below the tray, above and below the L joint and where the glass tube enters the wood. This creates more places that need to be cleaned, more parts that need high tolerance, and more parts with the potential to break. fw6 only needs to have a good seal in 2 locations and at each location the design is improved over the seal methods on fw5.
I think fw5 only has one advatage over fw6 and even that will be debatable - how easy it is to load. It is really hard to beat the ease just sliding the tray in and out. However it comes with drawbacks - you have to remove the tray and turn it around for the last couple bowls
you still have to periodically reload the tray, and when you load 5 bowls far in advance you have to guess at how you are going to want to pack them. With fw6 there is never an overhanging tray that has to be rotated and reloaded. You load up an 1/8 of ground flower and a couple extra batteries and you are good for long time. The loading will be so streamlined that you'll be able to do it in the woods during a snowstorm, so even though it won't be as easy as sliding the tray out a notch, it will still be very easy.
I look forward to seeing what you come up with, I’m very excited for the 6!
flammy
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I just picked up a used FW5 and I really like the form factor. So far, it works well but I'm not getting much action along the rim of my bowl. I need to stir for uniform AVB...is this the norm or are there tricks to getting an even bowl? TIA.
Brewervapesalot
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Pretty normal, but keep the screen clean (just popping them in and out cleans them pretty dang good) and try different packing techniques (looser or tighter) until you get the best result. The bowls are small, so I don't bother stirring.
By sprinkling kief in the ground bud, I also think this helps get very consistent clouds and cooking of bud
flammy
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Thanks for the tips! I've been playing around with the FW5 and I really really like it. It fits so well in the hand and pocket. I was expecting whispy hits but I can get solid hits out of this which I'm sure surprises no on in this thread. I very much agree with your suggestion on altering packing technique which is what I spent my time doing yesterday.
The AVB is just mildly uneven but nothing that I really feel the need to complain that much about. Solid vape and very much look forward to v6.
I do have another quick Q. I've heard that the FW4 is actually worth trying out. Would anyone be open to sharing their comparison of the v4 vs v5? If it sounds like its up my alley, I'll hunt one of those down too.
Brewervapesalot
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Somewhat surprisingly, I've only broke one tube. And it broke where the silicone sleeve can cover the break, so no big deal.
Retract the tube as much as u can and it's fine in a pocket with moderate activity....
Retract the tube as much as u can and it's fine in a pocket with moderate activity....