Discontinued Elevape SV

[Shit Snacks]

My main concern would be it fitting, I can always adjust my temps.

Where is that one from? Have you measured the regular screens?

 

[thotfukr]

Where is that one from? Have you measured the regular screens?

I have not measured. That is just some random pic off the web.

 

[b0]

Wow, I'm really impresed with this vape. It has everything I always wished in a portable vape: vapor on demand, configurable temps and easy to use...

Is there any discount for FC members?

 

[Vape Dr.]

@Shit Snacks and @thotfukr I just measured one of my ESV chamber screens and they look to be 5/8ths screens.

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

Well I received my ESV back from IPuff last night, and I used it yesterday evening and all day at work today.

So far, I am quite pleased. This is the vaporizer I remember that allowed me to leave my precious FF at home, and made me stop caring if the GH ever comes out. Just a great fucking day with it.

The airflow is definitely different. It's... "air-ier." Much easier to get plenty of air flowing through there. As a result, the vapor is somewhat wispier, but in a good way. I am feeling no resistance now. What seemed like the problem for me before was that the air going through it was just not going fast enough, and it was causing combustion, or blackened material.

Now, it's a much easier process, and the bowl is vaping much more evenly with minimal stirring (no stir lid). I didn't singe any material all day, and I was really messing with it. I dare say the material was as evenly vaped as my Firefly or HI ABV. Pretty much as good as convection gets.

I don't know that they did anything official to the airpath, or maybe just cleaned mine out, but whatever they did, it worked. Even the flavor has improved, and the mouthpiece fits more snugly, and the lid comes off more easily.

The screen and coil placement is now perfect. I am pleased by this, but also concerned because I will never be able to get it that perfect myself. I think when that time comes for tinkering, I'll end up frustrated again.

And even with the perfectly placed double bottom screens, significant material buildup happened on the sensor in less than 24 hours. Not enough to affect performance, but enough to be noticeable. Cleaning the sensor still seems to be an every day need.

I dread ever having to change the screens or coil again. That seems, to me, the biggest problem with the ESV - you really have to know what you're doing when changing shit out. Casual vaporists, or idiots like me, I think, will have problems when it comes time to do a deep cleaning or a coil switch. But IPuff seems to be constantly upgrading so I wouldn't be surprised if this improves in the near future.

I choose to remain skeptical, but if my ESV performes regularly as well as it did today, I'd be one happy customer.

I still wouldn't recommend this to anyone at this point unless they are vape veterans, and are prepared to deal with send-backs.

And I still find the ESV to be the most interesting portable currently on the market, but am not sure if it will hold up against more and more rigorous FC testing. Sure has a lot of competition.

Me and the ESV... we've got a real love-hate thing going on here...

 

[mixchu69]

Vape Dr. really got me interested in this one. I am hoping that they create a version 2 that does not need me to modify and DIY. It takes me an hour to setup my girlfriends ikea furniture, when it should prob take 20 mins.

 

[Vape Dr.]

Vape Dr. really got me interested in this one. I am hoping that they create a version 2 that does not need me to modify and DIY. It takes me an hour to setup my girlfriends ikea furniture, when it should prob take 20 mins.

@mixchu69 The ESV DOES come out of the box ready to vape, and vape like a boss in stock form.

However, after you put some hours on the unit and you feel comfortable with your ESV, the ESV can be fine tuned to perform to your personal specifications.

Think of this as a bonus, not many other vapes are this versatile IMO. You can have an already awesome unit that works great, then dial it in to exactly how you would like it to function, as if you made the unit yourself. This is great for those of us who just love to tinker and have fun with our vapes.

Think of it like this.
It is kind of like tuning a car engine. The engine can run like a champ, but if you are familiar with the engine you can get better performance from the same engine as long as you know what your doing and are familiar with the engine.

IMHO I think you will be amazed with the performance of the ESV right out of the box without tweaking or playing around with.

 

[mixchu69]

Vape dr. You are absolutely killing me. Now it's on my buy list.

 

[thotfukr]

I can't wait to get mine back.

 

[b0]

@mixchu69 The ESV DOES come out of the box ready to vape, and vape like a boss in stock form.

However, after you put some hours on the unit and you feel comfortable with your ESV, the ESV can be fine tuned to perform to your personal specifications.

Think of this as a bonus, not many other vapes are this versatile IMO. You can have an already awesome unit that works great, then dial it in to exactly how you would like it to function, as if you made the unit yourself. This is great for those of us who just love to tinker and have fun with our vapes.

Think of it like this.
It is kind of like tuning a car engine. The engine can run like a champ, but if you are familiar with the engine you can get better performance from the same engine as long as you know what your doing and are familiar with the engine.

IMHO I think you will be amazed with the performance of the ESV right out of the box without tweaking or playing around with.

Please Stop!!! I have been following this post from the beggining and really want this unit but I've moved from Spain to UK and will have to wait a couple months before ordering it...And you're killing me in every post!!

Jokes aside, I can wait to be able to order it

 

[Vape Dr.]

@thotfukr, with regards to your post in the alfa, I thought I would post this here.

Some people have reported their camera lens gets dirty fast. IMO it is because the chamber lid screen is too coarse.
Yes, using 2 chamber lid screens helps tremendously, but the herb can stick to the coarseness of the screen which makes stirring necessary.
To alleviate having to stir (if you do not have the stir lid) a finer screen is necessary IMHO.

Here are 2 tricks I use:
Under fill your chamber. Fill your chamber fluffy just up to the silver ring, not past it. I also use a medium grind.

Make your own fine screen chamber lid screen. It's easy and I will show you how.

DIY chamber lid screen.

Get a 3/4" fine screen and use an EGO battery to conform the screen around it so it looks like a bottle cap.


You want it look like a bottle cap.



You take your allen head screw and chamber lid screens out. When you put the bottle cap screen on the chamber lid it screens twice. It will cover and screen the top portion, and the bottle cap sides will screen the slots on the side that go into the cooling chamber.




I find this to be extremely efficient and keep the unit super clean.
It acts as two screens.

This is very easy to do, works absolutely amazing, as well as keeping the camera portion of your ESV super clean.



I hope this helps you guys out. If your down to do 2 minutes worth of work, it will be worth it.

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

I don't understand how this helps keep the sensor clear?

IMO, it's the screens underneath the material that allow bits and pieces of herb to slip through.

And if the screens, and double screen placement, provided by the company itself isn't good enough, then... well... I don't have anything to say about that.

 

[thotfukr]

I never had any pieces of material slip through, just pollen and resin.

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

Well, I have. And it slips through every day I use the ESV.

And ANYTHING that covers the sensor is enough to fuck with the ESV performance.

 

[Shit Snacks]

@thotfukr, with regards to your post in the alfa, I thought I would post this here.

Some people have reported their camera lens gets dirty fast. IMO it is because the chamber lid screen is too coarse.
Yes, using 2 chamber lid screens helps tremendously, but the herb can stick to the coarseness of the screen which makes stirring necessary.
To alleviate having to stir (if you do not have the stir lid) a finer screen is necessary IMHO.

Here are 2 tricks I use:
Under fill your chamber. Fill your chamber fluffy just up to the silver ring, not past it. I also use a medium grind.

Make your own fine screen chamber lid screen. It's easy and I will show you how.

DIY chamber lid screen.

Get a 3/4" fine screen and use an EGO battery to conform the screen around it so it looks like a bottle cap.


You want it look like a bottle cap.



You take your allen head screw and chamber lid screens out. When you put the bottle cap screen on the chamber lid it screens twice. It will cover and screen the top portion, and the bottle cap sides will screen the slots on the side that go into the cooling chamber.




I find this to be extremely efficient and keep the unit super clean.
It acts as two screens.

This is very easy to do, works absolutely amazing, as well as keeping the camera portion of your ESV super clean.



I hope this helps you guys out. If your down to do 2 minutes worth of work, it will be worth it.

Cool idea, I had crammed a cut indica screen in there once a while ago without the screw and it did work very well but still required stirring and wasn't such a good fit cuz i didnt have the bottle cap sides. I dont have any vape pen stiff though so can't really make that shape anyhow.

I also dont see how it protects the camera though? Camera is above it through the other screen so how does it affect it at all? I dont feel like my lens gets too dirty, my original screen is finer than the spare replacements I now have, and now theres a fine cut indica screen sitting in it concave so even more protection.

For the top i really like using just the stir lid and no screen, mesh screens that get dirty in the vapor path always annoy me. But the diameter of the stir lid is just a tad too small, so pieces can get through. A course grind is ok but Elevape works better with fluffy as you said. A stir lid screen that had holes like the Thermovape T1 would be great I think, stays cleaner longer and simply poke through the holes to clear when they do clog. Having a metal plate there also helps keep things cooler to stave off accidental combustion when you draw too slow

 

[Vape Dr.]

I don't understand how this helps keep the sensor clear?

IMO, it's the screens underneath the material that allow bits and pieces of herb to slip through.

And if the screens, and double screen placement, provided by the company itself isn't good enough, then... well... I don't have anything to say about that.

IMO, if you are having herb fall through the oven screens, your grind is too fine and this is happening when you fill the chamber. Remember, once you fill the chamber you flip the ESV upside down and the herb rests on the chamber lid screen, not the oven screen.

Unless you are using the ESV upside down, the coil and chamber screen/screens are above the herb chamber.
When you are taking a draw the Herb is on the chamber lid screen, not on the oven chamber screen. Therefore the chamber lid screen would be the culprit because the chamber has a fine and a coarse screen in it.

It is herb that is getting through the chamber lid screen that is what is getting your lens dirty. The vapor goes through the chamber lid screen and out the 2 slots on the side into the cooling chamber, that is the only way to dirty the lens. What you are suggesting defies the laws of gravity.

This is also why the ESV vapes oils so well. The oil/wax/shatter is on a pad on the chamber lid. When you vape, the coil heats the oil from the top. This means there is no chance of oil dripping up into your ESV.

Everything can be improved upon my friend! Remember the ESV is very new to the market.
As the ESV progresses I am sure you will see many small changes here and there to the device.
This is not because the company didn't produce a quality product as you are insinuating, this is the way it works.

Companies make vaporizers, people use these vaporizers and make suggestions on how to improve them here on FC or other forums. Then the manufacturer takes suggested advice and revamps their units accordingly, if said advice is benificial.

This is how most vaporizer companies come to improve their units. By listening to users, taking their feedback and improving the unit.

Cleanliness is also crucial. Vaporizers are electronic devices that need to be taken care of and kept clean.

IMO I do not think there is a vaporizer on the market that cannot be improved on.

These are just my own personal opinions of course.

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

My grind is not too fine.

When you take a draw, it is the air being pulled through the cooling chamber that adjusts the air flow over the camera lens. It is not pulling the air through the oven chamber.

Then please explain to me how the material goes away from the sensor, through the "cooling chamber" (first I've heard about it) and then ends up back on the sensor, which is right by the coil that is providing the heat.

This is not because the company didn't produce a quality product as you are insinuating, this is the way it works.

I'm not insinuating anything, my friend. And I'm not insinuating anything despite the cost of my unit.

I guess I was under the impression that I didn't have to be a tech geek to enjoy the ESV.

 

[Vape Dr.]

My grind is not too fine.



Then please explain to me how the material goes away from the sensor, through the "cooling chamber" (first I've heard about it) and then ends up back on the sensor, which is right by the coil that is providing the heat.



I'm not insinuating anything, my friend. And I'm not insinuating anything despite the cost of my unit.

I guess I was under the impression that I didn't have to be a tech geek to enjoy the ESV.

Maybe the ESV is not for you my friend.

I also denote the sarcasm in your posts. Why?
Am I just not trying to help you out as I try to help everyone out?

If you do not find my posts informative or useful, please just move on to the next post.
I have no desire to get into a pissing match with you.

You post problems, I try to help.
You don't want my help, you can move on. you will not hurt my feelings at all.

Lets try to keep this thread about the ESV. Not trying to prove me wrong.

Have a great night EDA.

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

Well, gosh, Vape Dr. it's almost as if it's because your posts suggest I am using my ESV the "wrong" way, and that *you* are using it the "right" way." So long as we listen to your advice, we can all use the ESV the "right" way. So we should buy it.

I've been using the ESV longer than you have. And I think I know a little something about it.

You do seem to try to help everyone buy new portable vaporizers. No question about that. Seriously, you seem to have "helped" a lot of people buy new portables.

I'm pretty sure I have kept this thread about the ESV.

I just happen to think you're not being very helpful. I'm sure others will disagree.

 

[Shit Snacks]

I always find Vape Dr's posts extremely helpful and interesting regardless, but I do think there may have been a bit of miscommunication here actually

I think EDA just wanted some clarification (bc I also still dont understand the point about the lid screen helping keep the caemra lens clean at all either myself...) bc it didn't make sense to him the way it was written. I also know his nature, its just the way he speaks. I didn't take it as trying to argue or start something with sarcasm.

And ofcourse different experiences with any vape are possible, and the Elevape especially. I've had many different experiences with mine, but the positive ones are truly incredible and make it all worthwhile in my opinion.

All of this is just individual user experience, so the more variance the better so it can help more types of people with varying experiences themselves!

 

[stickstones]

@Vape Dr. -- am I right in assuming that the bottle cap screen can only be used instead of the stirring lid?

 

[Vape Dr.]

@stickstones That is correct the bottle cap screen replaces the factory chamber lid screen, and it eliminates the need for the allen screw.

However you can poke a hole in the fine screen and still use your stir attachment as well.

 

[grokit]

Is elevape incorporating any of these hacks to make a future v2 sv that needs less monkeying around?

For example is it more desirable to have a stirring lid or a top screen ,since they can't coexist ?

This vape seems to have a lot of potential...

 

[stickstones]

For example is it more desirable to have a stirring lid or a top screen, since they can't coexist?

However you can poke a hole in the fine screen and still use your stir attachment as well.

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

Had another really solid day with the Elevape away from home. No fiddling other than a little stirring. Easily hidden in my pocket. Quick, effortless, stealthy hits to keep me from going apeshit over all my dumbass coworkers. Fucking morons.

Hell, I was hitting it in front of two of them and no one thought anything of it.

Since I got it back from the manufacturer (again,) it's been almost all positives. And since I'm such a lightweight, I usually only need one bowl. And the battery life is more than I need for a full day away.

Really a neat little unit, when it's working for me.

I am finding that inhaling about 3 seconds after the light stops blinking yields good results. It also seems to help if I "pucker up" when I've got the mouthpiece in my... mouth.

And the saga continues...