Discontinued Elevape SV

[OF]

I am not really sure what the shorts were created by as I have never had to readjust my coil after to fix the issue. Just plug in the unit and it worked again. It could be the moisture content in my material or it could be how badly I have beaten the battery down

I question the "shorts" part. I assume we're talking slang for 'short circuit'? That is an unintended electrical connection usually leading to excessive currents'. I see no evidence of that here. For sure I don't recall similar problems reported, nor do I see how it could happen and 'fix itself' again?

Nor do I think moisture in the herb is a factor (although for fouling reasons you want the load 'on the dry side'), any moisture there happens after the air heating/electronics functions.

My money's on a lame battery or intermittent connection (open circuits, not shorts) even though there are very few interconnects of the type typically at fault there.

Is this the upgraded software? That could make a difference in battery usage. If it's not you might consider starting there (upgrade).

Is it safe for me to assume the references to "shorts" were conjecture? TIA

Good luck with it, nobody wants 'issues' with their vapes (or other tools), hopefully you have a backup?

OF

 

[nosmoking]

I am referring to a short as a failure in the software/electrical system. I have briefly mentioned my problems before and I have mentioned that I have the upgraded software before as well as concerns that I may have a lame battery due to prior abuse before I upgraded the software.

As for moisture, the oddest thing happened last time I cleaned my ESV. It was wet inside the vapor path. Droplets of water all over. It struck me as odd and made me thing the latest strain I have may have more moisture in it. I'm not really sure, but there is no other way for it to be wet inside...it's not like I'm spitting in it or using it with a water tool.

It still is working fine. It's just randomly maybe once every week or two I might get a short. I do have back-ups but nothing portable that compares to the ESV. Zion should be on its way to me soon tho and hopefully that gives the ESV some needed rest so I can send it back to Joe for a battery check/replacement.

 

[OF]

I have briefly mentioned my problems before and I have mentioned that I have the upgraded software before as well as concerns that I may have a lame battery due to prior abuse before I upgraded the software.

As for moisture, the oddest thing happened last time I cleaned my ESV. It was wet inside the vapor path. Droplets of water all over.

It still is working fine. It's just randomly maybe once every week or two I might get a short.

Thanks for the update. I hope you understand I don't keep track of all such details "briefly mentioned" (in an attempt to maintain some sanity), I tend more to RCA (Root Cause Analysis, a specific (repeatable) problem well defined linked to the precise failure point) as being useful in predicting stuff. Good to know it's not a software issue (probably). A battery replacement (and over all check up) might be in order? It's covered.......

I don't find moisture condensing in the cold parts of the vapor path to be at all unusual. If there's a lot of moisture in the load, I actually expect that? And no matter WRT electrical problems, it (water condensate) is not only not where the electrons are, but pure water (like condensate) is actually a very good insulator. Honest, it's ions from contamination that makes it conductive......look it up?

Glad it's working well for the most part. You might consider service for a fresh battery but that's your call. We'll continue to disagree on technical terms it seems, I might call it a 'problem' or 'failure' but IT IS NOT A "SHORT" (OR SHORT CIRCUIT). Not from what I was taught (and in turn taught the students). Accurate use of technical terms helps understanding I think, improper use does the opposite. I don't think we have intended contact going on.......

Thanks for the additional information. I agree ESV is an outstanding performer, worth 'treating right'.

OF

 

[nosmoking]

I can be technical...but not so much when it comes to electronic terminology. I'm more of a builder than an engineer, so if you say it is not a short then I'll go with it. I just know when it performs correctly and when it doesn't and I figured the information I post may be useful later to someone.

As always, thanks for your tips, comments and guidance @OF

 

[mixchu69]

Hi, my ESV flash everytime I want to take a hit...sometime no but still no heat....is it a dead coil or a CS issue?

I experienced it too. It lights up like a normal draw and then blinks, but nothing on the exhale. Only on back to back draws.

 

[OF]

I experienced it too. It lights up like a normal draw and then blinks, but nothing on the exhale. Only on back to back draws.

This sounds like a feature......if you hit it too long, that's what it does, blinks and cuts heating? You have to let it 'time out' again before getting the next hit. This is a fairly common feature (found on many portables), it prevents runaways should say the flow sensor hang up and report flow when it's in your pocket......

Do you think that's what's happening to you? That is you take a first hit more than the limit (8 seconds IIRC?)?

OF

 

[nosmoking]

@OF At least for what PPN and I described, we cannot get an 8 second draw. The light starts blinking immediately upon drawing a breathe. It kinda sounds like that for mixchu69. The thing is, when it does this you see the first blink and think, oh it lit up so it is working and you take your eye off the light, then no vapor so you look back at the light to see it blinking and you have only been drawing breathe for 3-4 seconds.


I used to have old beat up cars in high school. My friends would often point out something broken or non-functional or fixed in a ghetto manner and I would always explain they were features. This is just the first thing that popped up in my head when you referred to what I call "the blinking light of failure" a feature. It is similar to the blinking light feature that identifies 8 second cutoff, however it blinks about 6-8 times whereas the 8sec cutoff blink only blinks 2 times. In that sense, I agree that it is a feature to warn you that something is wrong with your ESV.

 

[mixchu69]

This sounds like a feature......if you hit it too long, that's what it does, blinks and cuts heating? You have to let it 'time out' again before getting the next hit. This is a fairly common feature (found on many portables), it prevents runaways should say the flow sensor hang up and report flow when it's in your pocket......

Do you think that's what's happening to you? That is you take a first hit more than the limit (8 seconds IIRC?)?

OF

I will give it a try when I get home and let you guys know

 

[OF]

@OF At least for what PPN and I described, we cannot get an 8 second draw. The light starts blinking immediately upon drawing a breathe. It kinda sounds like that for mixchu69.

Thanks, but I don't think so. He, unlike you, reports a normal hit first. "Only on back to back draws."

In your case it's more likely a soft battery that collapses when the (very high with ESV) load comes with heating. I think I said this?

I think we have two different 'failure' modes here, the OP above has enough battery to get good hits if he allows for time? You are not?

OF

 

[nosmoking]

I think your right about my issue. I slam my ESV pretty hard by hitting it with 4 or 5 pauses often to trick the cutoff so it gets pretty hot...big clouds tho! That with the soft battery could likely be the cause for my "failure".

Going back and looking at the posts by PPN, I cannot find where he stated getting a good hit. He said he was getting a red flashing light every time he hit it...pretty much word for word

Edit: reading it again when he says sometimes no flash no heat...i wonder if he meant no light and no heat or solid light and no heat

 

[PPN]

....solid light and no heat!
although everything is fine now!

 

[Vape Dr.]

I think your right about my issue. I slam my ESV pretty hard by hitting it with 4 or 5 pauses often to trick the cutoff so it gets pretty hot...big clouds tho! That with the soft battery could likely be the cause for my "failure".

Going back and looking at the posts by PPN, I cannot find where he stated getting a good hit. He said he was getting a red flashing light every time he hit it...pretty much word for word

Edit: reading it again when he says sometimes no flash no heat...i wonder if he meant no light and no heat or solid light and no heat

@nosmoking and @PPN Try this.

Plug the Elevape into the app, unplug and take a hit. You should get a normal hit.
Try hitting it again, if you do not get a hit plug your Elevape in the app, unplug and take a draw.

If you get a draw, just 1 draw after it is unplugged but then if you have to plug it back in and get another hit you need to send your unit back to Joe.

I think he might have to upgrade the firmware in your unit.

I had what I described to you happen to me. Joe had me back in business in no time.

Sorry for the bad news but if yours is doing what I just explained, ya gotta send it to Joe.

 

[nosmoking]

I don't think either of us are having or had the issue you describe @Vape Dr. as both of us seem to have success keeping the unit working after an initial plug in. I used mine for four sessions this morning with no problem and PPN is all good too so we won't have to send them to Joe luckily.

 

[Al..]

Hi folks can anybody help i have been using the Elevape for 2 days i can't get no cloud or taste the unit is heating up tho its doing my nut in...

 

[OF]

Hi folks can anybody help i have been using the Elevape for 2 days i can't get no cloud or taste the unit is heating up tho its doing my nut in...

First off, howdy! Welcome to the Forum, sorry you're having troubles but it should be easy enough to sort out.

First a couple questions:

Have you tried raising the temperature? What happened?
How does the herb come out? Dry and brown?

TIA

OF

 

[Al..]

First off, howdy! Welcome to the Forum, sorry you're having troubles but it should be easy enough to sort out.

First a couple questions:

Have you tried raising the temperature? What happened?
How does the herb come out? Dry and brown?

TIA

OF

Hi ta for the reply i have had the heat up to 415 yes the herb was dry and brown..

 

[OF]

Hi ta for the reply i have had the heat up to 415 yes the herb was dry and brown..

Interesting. You can't ask for more than that. No THC left (well not much) if it went in it had to come out.....

I'm not sure the temperature numbers are accurate (the setting is kind of abstract). It's really a measure of how much light comes off the coil inside and includes variables in mounting, the coil itself, dust on the lens, the lens itself, probably the individual detector and a bunch of stuff. It's repeatable (will give the same results) although no doubt drifts with time as dust builds up, the coil shifts and so on.

But if the herb goes in with THC and comes out without it, it's working.

How potent is the bud? There's not very much in each load...... Was it well cured going in (evaporating water from poorly cured herb can mask things).

TIA for the additional information.

OF

 

[Al..]

Good day OF i think you may have a point not sure my bud is that good i have taken the little gauze out of the mouthpiece and i now get a little cloud. i will hunt some better bud down and try that. Also the coil seems to heat up ok so many things to try ..

 

[Al..]

Good day OF i think you may have a point not sure my bud is that good i have taken the little gauze out of the mouthpiece and i now get a little cloud. i will hunt some better bud down and try that. Also the coil seems to heat up ok so many things to try ..

 

[ataxian]

I don't understand?

There are bars in OZ?
Why is CANNABIS against the law?

GDP for sleeping
GSC daytime

 

[Al..]

Time to get rid of my elevape 4 days of try! no taste no cloud put my bud in my old desktop vape and loads of cloud i take my hat off to you guys who can use this..

 

[OF]

Time to get rid of my elevape 4 days of try! no taste no cloud put my bud in my old desktop vape and loads of cloud i take my hat off to you guys who can use this..

That's unfortunate, what do you think the problems is? Perhaps it's a rate of production thing, desktops have lots of power on tap typically, portables have modest amounts. Therefore production is slower (takes more seconds to exhaust the load).

That is basing your assessment on visible vapor can be misleading. 'Don't chase clouds' when you're learning a new vape is a good idea I think.

Again, if the THC is going in (green and moist) and not coming out in the ABV (dry and brown) it had to come out as vapor. Perhaps you missed it because it was weaker than you expected?

I seriously doubt there's anything wrong with your unit (although that could be of course), given potent enough bud I suspect it's a technique/expectation issue?

Still you buy vapes to use, not fight with. Sorry you're not enjoying yours, many (most? all?) of us are......

OF

 

[Al..]

That's unfortunate, what do you think the problems is? Perhaps it's a rate of production thing, desktops have lots of power on tap typically, portables have modest amounts. Therefore production is slower (takes more seconds to exhaust the load).

That is basing your assessment on visible vapor can be misleading. 'Don't chase clouds' when you're learning a new vape is a good idea I think.

Again, if the THC is going in (green and moist) and not coming out in the ABV (dry and brown) it had to come out as vapor. Perhaps you missed it because it was weaker than you expected?

I seriously doubt there's anything wrong with your unit (although that could be of course), given potent enough bud I suspect it's a technique/expectation issue?

Still you buy vapes to use, not fight with. Sorry you're not enjoying yours, many (most? all?) of us are......

OF

Hi FO not sure what the problem is i do think it is working but with the temp up at the top i get a little cloud i have had 4 craftys which i loved But after 50 hours they broke so switched to the elevape as the clips of people using the elevape they are getting nice taste and cloud.. thanks for helping FO.. Al

 

[nosmoking]

@Al.. Did you buy new or used?

 

[Al..]

@Al.. Did you buy new or used?

It was new nosmoking..