Discontinued Elevape SV

[Shit Snacks]

Restricting draw would lead to less evenness, more combustion prone.

I dont think anyone has done two screens in the lid, that has no impact on sensor

 

[grokit]

Has anyone tried folding the extra bottom screen in half, over the hot spot?

 

[btka]

I don t have mine esv fu***** customs/aaromatherapie blnd don t know whats up...

But as far as i understand and see in pictures the airpath goes trough where you screw the coil in then diagonal in the direction of the mouthpeace air takes fastest/shoortest way... so the problem of combustion as far as i understand has to do with the distribution of air...

@grokit did you try the have screen thing?

 

[grokit]

That sucks, hope it gets tracked down. I'm missing a box that was "delivered" last friday, found out the post office meant to say in the tracking system that they delivered it to the wrong shelf at the post office.

Anyways I'm on a needed break from the elevape. When the new bowl gets here I will probably mess around with the old one a bit more, and try it again to see if I can make a positive association with this thing!

 

[Vape Dr.]

@btka you are correct. I use a fine-coarse-fine screen in the chamber. I basically just added a fine screen to the stock setup under the retainer ring. IMO this keeps the heat more even in the chamber.

@grokit IMO I find through all my testing, the 3 screens in the chamber (and either 2 stock chamber lid screens or finer bottle cap screen) and tweaking the coil closer to the camera seems to work the best so far. The whole coil must be tweaked, not just the edge.
You do not want the coil touching the camera, but closer to it. Do not worry, the camera lens will not melt, it is made from pyrex.

@Shit Snacks at first I used 2 criss crossed factory screens at first.
After making the bottle cap screen with a finer mesh, I elevate (get it) the surface of the stir lid apx a mm above the screen so vapor can pass through the majority of the screen.
I use a small washer under the stir lid. The stir lid can be raised just enough so it allows better airflow while the stir lids post come closer to the chamber screen.

Just make sure you use a thin washer under the stir lid so the stir prongs don't make contact with the chamber lid screen. I also use my stainless steel Indica brush to clean out around under the stir lid it works very well.


IMO This absolutely makes a difference. It does not restrict airflow and it keeps the sensor much cleaner. I have well over 100 chambers vaped without opening my ESV to clean the sensor or touch the coil.

I personally disagree with using a fine grind like shit snacks does, I use a medium grind and keep it fluffy. The finer the grind the more particulates fall through the chamber on the camera lens, I find this to be especially true if you are using the stock 2 screens (without adding a fine screen on the bottom).
I get 12 draws from .10-.15 without coming close to combustion. I also never go above 350F on the app.

These are all of course my own opinions. This is what I have found works best for me after countless hours of testing and many, many chambers vaped.
Now with some minor tweaking I now have an ESV that is custom tailored to me.

 

[Shit Snacks]

@btka you are correct. I use a fine-coarse-fine screen in the chamber. I basically just added a fine screen to the stock setup under the retainer ring. IMO this keeps the heat more even in the chamber.

@grokit IMO I find through all my testing, the 3 screens in the chamber (and either 2 stock chamber lid screens or finer bottle cap screen) and tweaking the coil closer to the camera seems to work the best so far. The whole coil must be tweaked, not just the edge.
You do not want the coil touching the camera, but closer to it. Do not worry, the camera lens will not melt, it is made from pyrex.

@Shit Snacks at first I used 2 criss crossed factory screens at first.
After making the bottle cap screen with a finer mesh, I elevate (get it) the surface of the stir lid apx a mm above the screen so vapor can pass through the majority of the screen.
I use a small washer under the stir lid. The stir lid can be raised just enough so it allows better airflow while the stir lids post come closer to the chamber screen.

Just make sure you use a thin washer under the stir lid so the stir prongs don't make contact with the chamber lid screen. I also use my stainless steel Indica brush to clean out around under the stir lid it works very well.


IMO This absolutely makes a difference. It does not restrict airflow and it keeps the sensor much cleaner. I have well over 100 chambers vaped without opening my ESV to clean the sensor or touch the coil.

I personally disagree with using a fine grind like shit snacks does, I use a medium grind and keep it fluffy. The finer the grind the more particulates fall through the chamber on the camera lens, I find this to be especially true if you are using the stock 2 screens (without adding a fine screen on the bottom).
I get 12 draws from .10-.15 without coming close to combustion. I also never go above 350F on the app.

These are all of course my own opinions. This is what I have found works best for me after countless hours of testing and many, many chambers vaped.
Now with some minor tweaking I now have an ESV that is custom tailored to me.

Yes this is your best chance @grokit at finding success right here^

That does look like the best way to do it, I had good luck with a corser grind as well, but not as much. What's great is the Elevape works well with either, but yes cleaning more often is necessary with finer grind.

My Elevape is on its wah to Joe as we speak, so I should be getting tuned up so I can try it your way Doc. My retainer ring is completely fused, I've tried everything, and now with the blinking light it was time.

And since seeing my friends new Elevape he got off the sale in person, I know now there is a lot different than my unit #46, one of the original 50... So once I get the new setup I'm sure I will come to enjoy your methods!

Is that stir lid different than your original beta by the way? Looks like the prongs are longer? And it's silver, I've got the brass one, does it work much better?

 

[Stananton]

Hello boys and girls.
I've finally received my ESV. It was in customs clearance for six days. I had to pay 61$ customs fees and taxes, so still cheaper than getting it from VapoShop in Netherlands. Damn aromatherapy blend, they ripped my package apart. At Vapornation they clearly don't know what they are doing. This is statement from their website:

"Note: International orders may require credit card verification. Due to shipping regulations, we are unable to ship the Herbal Blend and Effin Cleaning Solution on International Orders."

Back to main topic:
ESV is very sturdy, looks great and feels great in hand - better than SOLO imo. What surprised me was that it was very easy to open the lid, just turn it 180 degrees and push up with moderate force. No signs of glue there, magnets on their place.
My coil isn't bent, just regular position.
My preset temps are:
1. 310 F
2. 325 F
3. 355 F
Has anyone tried putting screen/ domed screen inside chamber, not between original screens?
I cant report on how it works because my meds are not ready yet (still 1,5 month to finish) and I promised myself that I will NEVER EVER EVER again buy meds of the street. I simply can't wait.
I guess it wouldn't make sense to test ESV with included aroma blend?

 

[vapeppau]

I've finally received my ESV. It was in customs clearance for six days. I had to pay 61$ customs fees and taxes

Woah dude harsh! Mine was at customs too for 6 days, but it came thru unscathed...yours was probably the second one coming thru and it would've raised suspicion lol

 

[mixchu69]

Woah dude harsh! Mine was at customs too for 6 days, but it came thru unscathed...yours was probably the second one coming thru and it would've raised suspicion lol

What's more harsh is waiting 1.5 months before you get to try it out. but definitely agree with you on the custom fees. Sometimes I forget how lucky I am to be living in the US.

 

[subway13029]

Boy oh boy am I glad to have this unit up and running again..when this thing is dialed in IMO There isn't anything like it..The on demand vapor and the taste in fantastic..when I recieved my vapor path and mp from joe yesterday (they have the fastest shipping and that is fact) I recieved a different mp than what originally came with unit. They new one has much bigger hole and seems to be plastic? My first one was a try of metalwork smaller hole and silver where it goes in to unit? What version do any of you have?

 

[Stananton]

Woah dude harsh! Mine was at customs too for 6 days, but it came thru unscathed...yours was probably the second one coming thru and it would've raised suspicion lol

But I live in Poland not Australia and it were Polish customs officers who did it. I guess my ESV is one and only in Poland

 

[btka]

yeah i am from austria my esv got trough customs today (8 days later )... hmmm funny that they are concerned of the aromatherapie blend (i am guessing)... funny or some people are trying to get mj from usa today via post? and thats why customs took place so long... i wanted to call the customs and tell them they can have the aromatherapie blend but they should sent me my esv? but they didn t answer the phone... but if someone is sending tea from abroad are they also acting like this.... hmmm maybe they see when they do x-ray that it is something organic and then send it to the laboratory to indentify... i don t get it!

hopefully it is here tomorrow and i am glad i did not opted and paid for express priority.....

 

[Shit Snacks]

Boy oh boy am I glad to have this unit up and running again..when this thing is dialed in IMO There isn't anything like it..The on demand vapor and the taste in fantastic..when I recieved my vapor path and mp from joe yesterday (they have the fastest shipping and that is fact) I recieved a different mp than what originally came with unit. They new one has much bigger hole and seems to be plastic? My first one was a try of metalwork smaller hole and silver where it goes in to unit? What version do any of you have?

Sounds like he sent you the original delrin mouthpiece, its much better in my opinion, better fit and airflow, even a little more comfortable on the lips

 

[HerbieVonVapster]

Still need to try the bottle cap screen. Been really happy with how well mines been doing since I cut off about a third of the circle on my prong stiring lid. Now with having a third of screen clear can get better airflow. It also come in handle for on the road cleaning just unscrew move screen a third of a turn and fresh clean area exposed.

 

[Kaptan]

I just want to update with a big thanks for all of your support. I can tell that there is a good amount of passion for this vape, and I can definitely both see its amazing potential and feel its high quality. It wasn't a good fit for my personal needs, but I had to try it just to make sure I guess. I'm sure joe/ipuff will continue its excellent customer service, I'm just waiting on a tracking number for the replacement bowl assembly.

Are you using the standard lid with the center screw? In the past, I have had similar results, but it was usually an over filled bowl or too slow of an inhale. Try only using a half packed bowl and start with a slow inhale and ramp up faster towards the end. Surprisingly, a little pinch can provide many satisfying draws. Also, try the bottle cap screen method as it allows for more airflow. I had the same feelings initially when I couldn't get it dialed in correctly, but now, I'm quite pleased and use it in my daily rotation. Good luck!

 

[grokit]

I'm warming up to giving my esv another try, with some of the recommended mods to my existing bowl assembly. The draw technique you described was my usual, but ramping up the draw at the end and repeatedly suffering combustion is what has me so apprehensive of using this vape again.

Combustion is more than an inconvenience for me, it causes that whole hyperemesis thing and that's what forced me back to vaping. If it wasn't for vaping I would be stuck with edibles etc., because I just can't handle smoking anymore. So yeah, one of these days I will take my esv out for another spin.

But I'm going to wait a while, because I'm still recovering from my experience this last weekend. It's definitely not the vape I was hoping it would be out of the box, to be taken on a trip where stealth and simplicity are the concern. But it may still have a place in the arsenal, the jury's still out on this one!

 

[vapeppau]

But I live in Poland not Australia and it were Polish customs officers who did it. I guess my ESV is one and only in Poland

haha my bad! I was soooo vaked yesterday when I posted that...automatically assumed customs trouble = aussie customs haha

 

[PPN]

Hi, good news!

My ESV is now working really good, I put the bottle cap screen, no stirring tool and 3 screens in the bowl (I add a fine screen and put concave to center the load) and using 305-320°F I get an even abv with only 2 or 3 stirs (each 3 or 4 draws), taste is better since I don't scortch anymore my flowers.....but this affect the battery life cause every hits are a bit longer...

I'm in France and I didn't payed customs.....but I choose the cheaper shipping option (usps) with traditionnal post you have rarely to pay customs.

 

[btka]

my esv finally arrived today....
the usb cable is very short so i am wondering if i can use the usb cable from my samsung cellphone or the crafty usb cable plugged into pc usb port or 110V to USB adapter (from elevape) then step down converter (220v to 110v) then wall socket...

and by the way i charged it now for 5 hours as recommended but after downloading the software app it only shows 50% is that ok... should i charge it to 100% before first use?

Also my 110V to USB adapter (from elevape, Travel Charger input:AC110-240V 50/60HZ, output DC5 0v max500mA) looks different then the one on the homepage of elevape and also the one that @Vape Dr. have...

i know i asked this before and as i can remember someone told me i can use this also without a step down adapter only with simple adapter (EU-USA) without step down function given this info Travel Charger input:AC110-240V 50/60HZ, output DC5 0v max500mA is it safe to do so without risking to harm the esv...( sorry my electrical knowledge isn t really good)

 

[kazz]

my esv finally arrived today....
the usb cable is very short so i am wondering if i can use the usb cable from my samsung cellphone or the crafty usb cable plugged into pc usb port or 110V to USB adapter (from elevape) then step down converter (220v to 110v) then wall socket...

I regularly use my cell phone charger and cable to recharge my elevape.

 

[OF]

my esv finally arrived today....
the usb cable is very short so i am wondering if i can use the usb cable from my samsung cellphone or the crafty usb cable plugged into pc usb port or 110V to USB adapter (from elevape) then step down converter (220v to 110v) then wall socket...

and by the way i charged it now for 5 hours as recommended but after downloading the software app it only shows 50% is that ok... should i charge it to 100% before first use?

You can probably use other cables, but there is a potential downside. The factory one is short for a reason, it better supports the potential very fast charge rate of the ESV. Mine runs a bit over an Amp if I let it. Top to bottom charge is an hour. Simply using a 'high power' USB port (good for 3 Amps IIRC) and the provided short, heavy wire cable. Going cheap (but fine for other USB things) with the copper in the cable (small gauge) is a performance killer, as, of course, is making it longer. Twice as long is twice the loss. That loss goes up with higher power (current draw) and will limit charging before the charge controller does (making it slow) when it becomes too much. I'd be careful, watch the charge times to see if they match the short cable?

The 5 hours and not done is definitely a problem. Why? What cable are you using and where is it plugged in? Is this with the provided charger and cable? A bit over 4 hours is the worst I'd consider normal. It could be out of calibration, of course, but that too is something to get fixed I think. How are you charging it?

No, you've no doubt got the same charger I did, it'll work fine, just slowly compared to others.

OF

 

[Enchantre]

Well, sure @OF , if your provided cable works. Mine doesn't. Lots of them don't.

I use a Nook USB cable... I've also used my phone charger.

 

[btka]

You can probably use other cables, but there is a potential downside. The factory one is short for a reason, it better supports the potential very fast charge rate of the ESV. Mine runs a bit over an Amp if I let it. Top to bottom charge is an hour. Simply using a 'high power' USB port (good for 3 Amps IIRC) and the provided short, heavy wire cable. Going cheap (but fine for other USB things) with the copper in the cable (small gauge) is a performance killer, as, of course, is making it longer. Twice as long is twice the loss. That loss goes up with higher power (current draw) and will limit charging before the charge controller does (making it slow) when it becomes too much. I'd be careful, watch the charge times to see if they match the short cable?

The 5 hours and not done is definitely a problem. Why? What cable are you using and where is it plugged in? Is this with the provided charger and cable? A bit over 4 hours is the worst I'd consider normal. It could be out of calibration, of course, but that too is something to get fixed I think. How are you charging it?

No, you've no doubt got the same charger I did, it'll work fine, just slowly compared to others.

OF

i used the provided usb cable and charger... and plugged them into a step down converter input 230v 50hz output: AC 110v 45w

now charging for 9 hours and the app shows 75% is something wrong (by the way i am cahrging it for the first time)

and as i asked should i wait until it reaches 100% before i use it for the first time (memory effect ort something else other problems if i would not cahrge it full 100%)

and is it ok to use the usb cable from crafty or samsung smartphone for using the elevape app...

edit: ok charging with usp pc port seems to be faster...
is it possible that my wall socket or stepdown converter is charging the esv slower?

 

[OF]

Well, sure @OF , if your provided cable works. Mine doesn't. Lots of them don't.

Of course, defective cables don't count. But that's not the topic here, really?

i used the provided usb cable and charger... and plugged them into a step down converter input 230v 50hz output: AC 110v 45w

now charging for 9 hours and the app shows 75% is something wrong (by the way i am cahrging it for the first time)

and as i asked should i wait until it reaches 100% before i use it for the first time (memory effect ort something else other problems if i would not cahrge it full 100%)

and is it ok to use the usb cable from crafty or samsung smartphone for using the elevape app...

edit: ok charging with usp pc port seems to be faster...
is it possible that my wall socket or stepdown converter is charging the esv slower?

Actually it's most likely the step down transformer. The charger supplied is fine with 230 in (note your post above about the nameplate) once the mechanical issue with the plug if sorted out.

Yes, you should 'over charge' the first time (a few hours past full (100%)). Sounds to me like you were starving the charger so it was shorting the Air power wise.

Give it a fresh start, lose the transformer, and you should be good to go.

Enjoy it. Congratulations.

OF

 

[Vapor Loop]

Well i'm pretty sure i like the Elevape. The only reason i'm not sure is because i think my battery is defective, My unit will only work while plugged into the app or to the wall, And when i have it plugged into the app it kill's the devices battery rapidly, Even then it will go from full charge to empty in under 10 draws, Off a charger it get's a half draw before it goes from full charge to dead. I don't know if this matters but when i draw while hooked to the app it goes from full battery to empty, And then back up to about %80.