Discontinued Elevape SV

[natural farmer]

Ipuffusa says you can vape in any position. If you look at the branding on the unit, you'll see that the default orientation of the unit places the chamber on the bottom, and in this position the coil is above the chamber. There will be no falling bits and pieces if the vape is not used upside down.

Ahhh!!! Alright then... Looks more interesting now...

What does that mean?



Did that happen with your FF? The FF is what I think of when I see this unit's heating element.

No, no... That happened with the Thermovape T1!

The FF has a SS plate and the ceramic stuff surrounding the coil so it's quite difficult to have burnt bits...

 

[Mrbinky]

I'd love to see a comparative review of this versus the firefly by someone who has used both.

 

[mephisto]

The Firefly wants to be treated like a lady, caressed, hold it level. Draw too fast and wispy hits, draw too slow and you might get smoke. The Elevape does not need the details, just draw and you will receive vapor. The Firefly does not have multiple heat settings. You get what you get. Might run hot, might run cold. The Elevape gives 3 adjustable heat settings. The FF has a non-replaceable heating plate, the Elevape has a user replaceable heating coil. The Firefly might give you 4-5 sessions before needing recharge. The Elevape is ready to provide all-day use without needing a recharge. If the Firefly were a motorcycle, it would be a cruiser, comfortable, nice to look at. The Elevape would be a Chopper, no key, no signals or mirrors. Just grab and go. The 2 vapes share common traits, but the Elevape is smaller, faster, more durable, heat adjustable, and available in a rainbow of colors (if you like black). All told, they are both excellent vapes.
The Elevape put my Firefly in the garage permanently. Good luck with your choice......

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

Nice comparison @mephisto

 

[natural farmer]

The Firefly wants to be treated like a lady, caressed, hold it level. Draw too fast and wispy hits, draw too slow and you might get smoke. The Elevape does not need the details, just draw and you will receive vapor. The Firefly does not have multiple heat settings. You get what you get. Might run hot, might run cold. The Elevape gives 3 adjustable heat settings. The FF has a non-replaceable heating plate, the Elevape has a user replaceable heating coil. The Firefly might give you 4-5 sessions before needing recharge. The Elevape is ready to provide all-day use without needing a recharge. If the Firefly were a motorcycle, it would be a cruiser, comfortable, nice to look at. The Elevape would be a Chopper, no key, no signals or mirrors. Just grab and go. The 2 vapes share common traits, but the Elevape is smaller, faster, more durable, heat adjustable, and available in a rainbow of colors (if you like black). All told, they are both excellent vapes.
The Elevape put my Firefly in the garage permanently. Good luck with your choice......

I'd love to see some pics or vids mate! Elevape seems like the way to go nowadays... How does the load size compare to the FF? Can it give nice clouds with tiny loads like the Lotus or a good log vape?

 

[Mister G]

Seems like every week births 2 new vapes to watch out for. This one is quite interesting.

 

[mephisto]

@natural farmer , the crucible on the Elevape is a smaller diameter with a bit more depth than the FF. It handles small loads just fine. It delivers clouds regardless of load size.....The only drawback for some may be the lack of a download for Mac users. According to Ipuff, the Windows software is functional. I have found that setting 1 works great. If the clouds are not to my liking, I use setting 2. If I want to enjoy some extract, I use setting 3. This little machine takes the learning curve and straightens it right out. If you can draw breath, you can effectively use the Elevape.

 

[herbivore21]

mmmmm I am wondering how cheaply I can get my hands on one of these. I think if I could get it for under $300 including express shipping to Australia, I'd jump on board and give it a shot. I love everything about this now that the mouthpiece is anodized aluminium instead of plastic!

 

[marduk]

Got mine today. DOA. Actually not completely DOA, but it's not functioning as intended. I plugged it into an outlet for the 5 hour initial charge, and the light turned green after about an hour and forty minutes. Tried using it... the indicator light flashes 3 times on inhalation, but the element doesn't heat up. Then I discovered while troubleshooting that it will heat up if the usb cable is connected to my computer, but it won't on battery power or when connected to an outlet.

Good news is that when I called Elevape, I got an actual human being right away who was able to help me. Usually I'm pretty laid back but today I was pretty grumpy because I hadn't had the best day, and then I had to deal with this. But he didn't seem to mind.

So it appears that the company is standing behind their product and service will be good. I'm sending the unit back tomorrow for repair and a firmware upgrade. Keeping my fingers crossed for my next encounter with the Elevape.

One thing I noticed is that the draw is more restricted than my Firefly, which suprised me since @mephisto said his Elevape was more free-flowing than his Firefly. I think maybe the FF variance is in play here? Anyway, not necessarily a bad thing, just thought I'd mention it.

I'll try to upload a few pics tomorrow before I send it away. It's a nice vape.

 

[natural farmer]

I am a little troubled about Elevape being more complicated than the FF but I hope there are few such DOA cases. I am planning on getting one of those babies myself. Very intrigued by this new vaping tool! Waiting for more pics and vids...

 

[mephisto]

Allow me to clarify my description of the Elevape a bit. I should have stated that to me, the Elevape is an
"easier" draw related to the FF. I meant that the FF is very dependent upon the draw strength. The Elevape
compensates better for draw strength. The FF has to have the right combination of button-press and draw speed. The Elevape is automatic, just draw. @marduk its good to hear that you got your issue addressed in real time. @natural farmer , I do not think you will find the Elevape "complicated" at all. It is a load and go machine. Compared to my FF, it is less picky as to how fast/hard one takes a draw. I noticed that my first unit took an all night charge from my computer usb port to turn green. The wall charger did not seem to be as effective. I think the Elevape prefers a slow/low approach to charging.

 

[herbivore21]

To be fair, this vape sounds like it will be as easy as it gets to use. I am still toying with the idea of getting one! Need to fix my financials a little first though!

The computer controlled compensation for the heat you draw away with your inhales makes this the only available portable flower vape I'd consider.

Still, is taste good? How good, which other vapes would you compare it to? Does this pair up with glass?

 

[marduk]

 

[grokit]

I am not a fan of the aesthetics, but at least it's in stealth black.

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations Marduk,

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Thank you for the 6th snapshot as it appears to show that the clear translucent cylindrical body (on the right side of the coil element) isn't a hollow glass tube after all. Which leaves me with only 1 scenario relatively to inlet air: it arrives through the rectangular opening that surrounds the pair of screw-mounting supports, along the heater coil conductors... Is this correct???

In any case any additional clue will help Marduk!! Especially information about how fresh air travels from outside to here!...

 

[marduk]

inlet air: it arrives through the rectangular opening that surrounds the pair of screw-mounting supports, along the heater coil conductors... Is this correct???

In any case any additional clue will help Marduk!! Especially information about how fresh air travels from outside to here!...

That's correct. Ipuffusa confirmed it earlier. The air comes in through the opening around the USB port and travels past the coil supports.

What we don't know is what's in between those two points. Removing that middle screw would show everything, but that would void the warranty. No can do.

 

[Egzoset]

Hi again Marduk,

That's correct. Ipuffusa confirmed it earlier. The air comes in through the opening around the USB port and travels past the coil supports.

Noted!

What we don't know... ... No can do.

Well, quite honestly, considering the clear statement which you've just made previously, euh...

There's no need to look any deeper as i don't expect the air paths to be contained and separated under the present circumstances. So, thanks again! You've been really helpful, at least to me!







ADDENDUM



I was on the toilet seat, having some inspiration induced by the idea of venting electronics i guess, well... A revelation arrived quite suddenly!! No matter the fancy luminostatic heat regulator!

But i've got to wonder then! Who would want to ruin a genuinely creative concept like this one??

Considering in this specific case we've learned that the fresh air opening is from a USB port!...

So, there's no going around that unless the manufacturer found a USB connector designed for such dual-purpose function, e.g. with a separate/sealed air path. Another possibility might be that this is built around standard connector hardware though there's proper sealing, possibly silicone or teflon, etc.

Anyway, who on earth would want to spoil it by design!? So i thought to myself airtight isolation from electronics (in the mystery black box) could still be implemented using a tube just as in the PuffIt device: a tube brings fresh air from outside the casing. In addition, pressure detectors remain compatible with airtight containment if, for example, there's only a small metal ball partly obstructing a plastic tube probed by some magnetic pickup coil: the machine's fresh-air inlet would only make contact with tubing and a metallic body before it enters the heater section...

Yet, there's that peculiar multi-purpose USB inlet port.

That's no accident, is that USB inlet port actually intended for venting electronics too? I mean, really?!

...using the power of our own lungs???

Please, PLEASE... Please tell me i forgot a happy scenario somehow!!

 

[natural farmer]

I not sure what to think about the air inlet... It could be nothing to worry about. It's just cold air anyway... It partially passes through the electronics in the Firefly as well.

I wonder how easy it is to produce vapour though... How many secs do you need to draw for a nice cloud? The FF needs more sucking than the Lotus for example. I don't like this very much. It can hurt my teeth sometimes. That's why I sold my Solo in the first place. Prolonged draws... I like short and potent puffs. Can the EV do that? I also remember @mephisto saying that no stir is required? That shows some very uniform hot air stream if that's so!

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations Natural Farmer,

It's just cold air anyway...

No doubt that was the designer's final reasoning as well - and that's sufficient deterrent for me.

It partially passes through the electronics in the Firefly as well.

The problem i have mentioned appears to be a design feature shared by mutiple products, actually.

I wonder how easy it is to produce vapour though...

Looking at the heating system i seemed to recognize that of a Snoop DogG, or vice-versa... That's not much power to play with except for a portable lighter! But i'm more anxious to read about the closed-loop regulator anyway, because this is the real innovation it's about.

How many secs do you need to draw for a nice cloud?

Will need YouTube user reviews for that!

 

[natural farmer]

Salutations Natural Farmer,



No doubt that was the designer's final reasoning as well - and that's sufficient deterrent for me.



The problem i have mentioned appears to be a design feature shared by mutiple products, actually.





Looking at the heating system i seemed to recognize that of a Snoop DogG, or vice-versa... That's not much power to play with except for a portable lighter! But i'm more anxious to read about the closed-loop regulator anyway, because this is the real innovation it's about.



Will need YouTube user reviews for that!

Salutations to you Egzoset!

I don't really understand why you don't like the cold air passing through a printed electronic board. You only need to worry if somehow that catches fire or something. If you live in a city you inhale more toxic fumes than a burned electronics board anyway...
And if @mephisto has put aside his FF for the EV, I am sure the heating element and the design are much superior to that Snoop Dog crappy pen...

 

[herbivore21]

Oh man, I too like to avoid air-paths that go over the electronics. It is true that in most cases, this will not be an issue. However, I have had more than one vaporizer have burnt out electronic components over the years. I don't want to be inhaling that at any stage. I love vaping for the taste, I want to know that I won't have any chance of nasty tastes getting into my vapor!

I will wait for @Ipuffusa to tell us about the air path. Specifically, is the airpath isolated from the electronics (ie does the air, from intake to mouthpiece pass over any electronic components?)? This device will have more electronically going on in it than many other vapes, due to it's more computer based (rather than mechanical) design.

Also, is the vape plastic? The black parts disassembled look like plastic to me! I thought it was a metal? Is this just a visual illusion?

 

[mephisto]

@herbivore21 the vape is bead blasted,anodized aluminum. The Elevape delivers vapor virtually the instant you begin to draw. You can take long extended pulls, or short micro hits. Either way, this vape is about as on demand as you will find. I am happy with the description that was provided by Ipuff as to the airpath. Some of us want hermetically sealed, glass only airpaths. I want a vape that I can pick up and hit, get as much vapor as I can hold, then repeat. The Elevape gives me that. I never worried about the consequences when I was combusting and inhaling all those by-products. Now I don't combust, I am satisfied that my choices are far more healthy than before vaping. I appreciate the attention to detail in the design of this device, and I also appreciate the concerns presented as to the safety of its use. For me, worrying about what ifs is generally a waste of my time and my elevation......

 

[herbivore21]

Mephisto: Let me be clear - I think this is an extremely functional and well designed vape. Thanks for clearing up that it is indeed aluminium and my perception of the image was the issue!

I do however want to ensure that I use the safest vaporizers possible. The reason I use vaporizers is because combustion is harmful and my combustion habit would surely have taken years off my life (in the first percentile in terms of quantities smoked). I don't mind waiting for the safest vape to suit my needs. Especially given that my vaping entourage is just about complete now anyway!

I once again want to say that the computerized aspect of this vape is what draws me to it! I really hope the air path is separated from the electronics, even if crudely, just so long as it is effective separation. I want to have nothing but good reasons to buy this vape before I pull the trigger

 

[Kaptan]

Vapornation is sold out of the Elevape. Anyone know of another retailer that has this in stock?

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations Natural farmer,

I don't really understand why you don't like the cold air passing through a printed electronic board.

I know, we don't necessarily have to share the same views.

You only need to worry if somehow that catches fire or something.

1st everyone around here (and not just this forum!) seems ready to assume that a catastrophic failure will never happen, the next step is to think that eventual emanations always signal their presence... Now, what about random intermitant failures?...

...in a city you inhale more toxic fumes...

Sorry, if you're trying to convince me that i should be more tolerant of such design flaws then i'm afraid i'll have to disapoint you! But as i mentioned, i'm still not 100 % certain what's the inlet path alike in this vaporizer. The device may have it contained within a plastic tube as in the Puffit, inside the compartment under the heater section. It would pass through an airflow sensor only - BUT - lets not forget the dual-purpose USB electronics vent port & fresh-air inlet...

Please focus on the control loop instead, at least there's something stimulating there!