BT Bean
Bredda Gravalicious
Indeed. It’s a beast. One of the few things in life that actually lives up to the hype.
I notice you didn’t post anything after that post last night…
E-Nano from Epickai
Indeed. It’s a beast. One of the few things in life that actually lives up to the hype.
I notice you didn’t post anything after that post last night…
SuperFastJellyFish
Member
In my experience, the irritation is more due to the little particles getting through rather than the heat(well, the throat and lung irritation. The mouth irritation is probably from the heat drying it out).
If you put a thin piece of cotton at the end of your stem where you put your lips(held in place by a screen), the irritation goes away. After about a week of vaping through it, you can pull that cotton filter out and vape all the goodness that has collected in it. Just make sure it's 100% cotton. As I recall, its flashpoint is somewhere near 700 degrees F. I've never had it ignite on me in over a year of using this method. Just be aware that cotton isn't good for you if you do burn it though.
That said, I prefer my bubbler over this method because of the added benefit of cool vapor. Of course, you lose the option of easy reclaimability, as getting the wand hash out of the bubbler's filters(the water and sidewalls) involves a bit of doing.
flotntoke
thoroughly vaped
Glad to hear it! Think you'll like it just fine. Every time you start wondering when it will get to you, just set up another nano load. It'll be there before you know it.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
If little particles of cannabis is getting through the screen use a coarser grind or use small little nuggets. Problem solved.
I have a new strain in my Enano tonight it's called Girl Scout Bubba. I can't find much info but I will assume Bubba Kush and Girl Scout Cookies. I was looking for a pain reliever and the bud tender suggested this strain.
We got out of the other side of the family's Christmas get together this year. Nobody I guess wanted to host it. Cheers, an early Christmas gift.
I have a new strain in my Enano tonight it's called Girl Scout Bubba. I can't find much info but I will assume Bubba Kush and Girl Scout Cookies. I was looking for a pain reliever and the bud tender suggested this strain.
We got out of the other side of the family's Christmas get together this year. Nobody I guess wanted to host it. Cheers, an early Christmas gift.
BT Bean
Bredda Gravalicious
Interesting idea. If the bubbler doesn’t do the trick I may try that.
The beauty of DHGate I suppose is I’m only out $35 if I absolutely hate it. I’m not too worried though and I'm sure it will get plenty of use dry if nothing else. A new adventure.
Water. The final frontier.
Or perhaps it was grown by a Girl Scout named Bubba.
SuperFastJellyFish
Member
I mean like the dust particles that are torn off as the bud breaks down from heating and the air rushing through it(even off of a single nug). As the cotton filter gets gummed up with oil, it catches a lot of the microscopic and just barely visible bits while still allowing most of the active ingredients through.
Edit: I was never a smoker so I might just have weak-ass lungs, but I've used just the stem for a month without the filter and by week 2 of daily vaping I'm coughing and wheezing. Then a month with a filter and breathing easy the whole month.
I did this a few years ago, alternating a month with and a month without a filter for 6 months in a row. Each month without was the same...coughing and wheezing around week 2. For the past year and a half or so, I usually just use a bubbler.
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CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I haven't had any problems with cannabis dust with the Enano but I have with other vaporizers. I have used cotton as a screen and it works out pretty good. It does absorb the cannabis oils but you can vape that later. So it's all good.
I've heard folks getting the cotton wet and vaporizing with it that way too. Cotton also works as a good spacer if you have a large oven too. There are all kinds of ways to utilize cotton. I like wrapping up my shatter inside cotton - no mess.
@SuperFastJellyFish Welcome to the forum. Do what way works for you. I've learned so much on FC from other members.
I've heard folks getting the cotton wet and vaporizing with it that way too. Cotton also works as a good spacer if you have a large oven too. There are all kinds of ways to utilize cotton. I like wrapping up my shatter inside cotton - no mess.
@SuperFastJellyFish Welcome to the forum. Do what way works for you. I've learned so much on FC from other members.
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Baron23
Well-Known Member
Hi Carol - yep, except I do use degummed hemp fiber for filter material. I find this is only really needed with Enano when using the glass gauze stems and fine grind/stirred herb as the holes are bigger in the glass screens.
I may start using hemp fiber filters more often with Enano and other vapes and see what I get. Nothing lost, AFAIK, as I can vape the filter if it collects a lot of good residue...as you noted.
Cheers
dontmindme
Active Member
Do you think you could use hemp fiber or cotton and wrap it around http://aqualabtechnologies.com/ceramic-honeycomb-screens-five-pack.html (think I read the ID is 9.*mm or something) ... instead of using those stainless steel baskets? Don't know at what temps hemp fiber vaporizes or gives off anything (and didn't want to google). Don't know if it'd move, but it might be gentler on the glass stem. If they only were in the shape of a pulley. But I guess if I were to do all that, I could just cushion the basket screen with those materials or find a smaller screen and put hemp wick on it like a chain on a gear.
http://pipescreenz.com/products/100-count-14-size-stainless-steel-pipe-screens ... Kind of hard to find screens in this size. You'd also probably would need to find the right sized clean hemp wick to make sure it wouldn't move under resistance or spin that hemp fiber you speak of to size and length... but I honestly don't know if this would even work. Probably would effect the taste too.
http://pipescreenz.com/products/100-count-14-size-stainless-steel-pipe-screens ... Kind of hard to find screens in this size. You'd also probably would need to find the right sized clean hemp wick to make sure it wouldn't move under resistance or spin that hemp fiber you speak of to size and length... but I honestly don't know if this would even work. Probably would effect the taste too.
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CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I think a basket screen works best with the Nano unless you have a built in glass screen. You can very easily cut screen with scissors if you need to make them smaller. Several folks have made their own screens. @dontmindme You wouldnt want to inhale a wad of hemp fiber or cotton. hemp and cotton vaporize at pretty high heat so not too much to worry about. I think you are safe 420 degrees and under.
No sense in making things too difficult the nano works well the way it is. A pretty simple concept.
i usually have a nice glass of ice water close by when things get on the dry side. Keep well hydrated.
hemp and cotton vaporize at pretty high heat so not too much to worry about. I think you are safe 420 degrees and under.No sense in making things too difficult the nano works well the way it is. A pretty simple concept.
i usually have a nice glass of ice water close by when things get on the dry side. Keep well hydrated.
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dontmindme
Active Member
I just noticed you can easily damage the glass when inserting these baskets and noticed people prefer the ability of the adjustable stem. If I still had the e-nano I'd just use the fixed glass stem because I like microdosing.
Baron23
Well-Known Member
And here ^^ is the truth and the beauty of the Enano.
I am a fairly recent purchaser of the Enano and I'm still finding my way about with it. I have found that I do like the adjustable baskets a bit more then glass gauze just because of the larger holes in the glass and you can see some of the particulants that can get through (particularly if stirred) stuck to the side of the stem (and side of my lungs I would suppose). But the answer for that is just large hand torn or even just small nugs....or, I'm going to try hemp filter between some small screens at the mouth end of the stem.
Still loving it, still finding that there are different ways to use it in the particulars of load size, load grind, temp, etc and that each gives a slightly different experience in terms of taste, speed of extraction, etc.
How so? I found the baskets pretty easy to insert or remove and the glass of the stems and GonGs are quite thick.
Cheers
dontmindme
Active Member
since there's no grommet/oring/or something around the edges, the wires poking out can scrape the inner tube. the basket relies on those little pegs/end of the wires sticking out to hold it in place. I don't know. I question the integrity of the glass after there's any sort of chipping or poking. Maybe it was just the stem I received.
I'm still wondering why these log vape people don't just combine the funds to create a good ceramic/quartz screen that is tapered on the ends, and just have glass tubes in different lengths slightly flared on one end all using the same inner diameter (similar to glass joints). Due to the length of the screen, you could even spiral the paths and taper the side to the mouthpiece smaller for better filtration due to build up of oils. They could even add a spiral path on the outside of the screen and maybe add a peg/hook/rim on the glass to wrap/tie hemp twine/wick holding it all together and protecting you from the heat or the other alternative would be a silicone sleeve which epicvape and some others already have. Or they could form/bend a wood spring that threads the pieces together somehow and tie the ends in place or something else. Maybe a two piece wood kekt like shelving sleeves and tie hemp to hold it all in place... the ceramic screen could be like that too. maybe three pieces , two sleeves and a rod with pegs or something so you can place in the middle to set air flow/filtering (like a sandwich). But easy to clean too because it just comes apart exposing all the paths/inside. Someone should really use one of these ideas.
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I'm still wondering why these log vape people don't just combine the funds to create a good ceramic/quartz screen that is tapered on the ends, and just have glass tubes in different lengths slightly flared on one end all using the same inner diameter (similar to glass joints). Due to the length of the screen, you could even spiral the paths and taper the side to the mouthpiece smaller for better filtration due to build up of oils. They could even add a spiral path on the outside of the screen and maybe add a peg/hook/rim on the glass to wrap/tie hemp twine/wick holding it all together and protecting you from the heat or the other alternative would be a silicone sleeve which epicvape and some others already have. Or they could form/bend a wood spring that threads the pieces together somehow and tie the ends in place or something else. Maybe a two piece wood kekt like shelving sleeves and tie hemp to hold it all in place... the ceramic screen could be like that too. maybe three pieces , two sleeves and a rod with pegs or something so you can place in the middle to set air flow/filtering (like a sandwich). But easy to clean too because it just comes apart exposing all the paths/inside. Someone should really use one of these ideas.
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howie105
Well-Known Member
Your right glass chipping is not usually a concern so you might have gotten a bad stem. Have you notified EpicVape so they can take care of the situation for you?
dontmindme
Active Member
I returned the unit... but still want one. I was just asking if it could work because I might buy one again some day, and probably would like to have the option of an adjustable stem without worrying about damaging the glass.
Also, http://www.oregonglassblower.com/14mm-Reclaimer-14M-14F-14m-14freclaim.htm having a heating element housing like this almost eliminates the need for a stainless steel screen, and prevents tiny sizes material bits going into the cover, and maybe even touching the heating element. Also allows better user maintenance. Kinda making the shape like a 8. Probably would use more power because of the distance though. You can even secure a glass stopper on the bottom of the unit to empty any debris, or have it a collecting bowl. I'd buy that I think.
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Also, http://www.oregonglassblower.com/14mm-Reclaimer-14M-14F-14m-14freclaim.htm having a heating element housing like this almost eliminates the need for a stainless steel screen, and prevents tiny sizes material bits going into the cover, and maybe even touching the heating element. Also allows better user maintenance. Kinda making the shape like a 8. Probably would use more power because of the distance though. You can even secure a glass stopper on the bottom of the unit to empty any debris, or have it a collecting bowl. I'd buy that I think.
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flotntoke
thoroughly vaped
I've got stems and GonGs that have been in use for almost 4 years now, and have read every page of this thread (and written on a good many). I just took a look at some of my older ones (with frosted GonGs) and newer ones (all at least 1 year old) under bright light with naked eye, 10x magnifying glass and 30x scope. Nothing at all was visible with naked eye, 2.0 reading glasses, or 10X magnifying glass.
I saw a few micro scratches at 30x that went lengthwise that were probably caused by screen insertion/removal. Even this was much less than expected as each of the 4 pieces I looked at (3 GonG, 1 stem) are in the regular rotation and I swap screens weekly (if that long). Of the 4 pieces checked, 2 of my favorite GonGs were the only ones with any scratches at all. I'd estimate the older one has at least 500 loads thought it, so probably 100 screen swaps and even more adjustments.
A few scratches = 3 of varying lengths on the oldest GonG (not all the way top to bottom but random streaks), and one on a GonG about 1 1/2 years old. All scratches seemed to be a one time thing, not from repeated digging by metal. After reading your posts and never really thinking about this I was very surprised to not see fine scratches everywhere up and down all of them. I stretch screens so they stay tight and am pretty rough on things as far as screen on glass goes. I like those puppies to stay in place unless I want them moved. And, can take a little force to get them going. Plus, I take advantage of the GonGs I have that let me slide the screen in from the GonG end. Much easier to get them in that way!
So while possibly a legitimate concern, it doesn't seem to be warranted. And, it kind of makes sense. The soft metal of the screens isn't hard enough to do much damage to the glass. I don't even know if the scratches seen are from screens, aggressive cleaning or scraping wand hash (I suspect from scraping, but who knows for sure?).
Might have been that the particular glass you had was faulty. But, did you see any damage? I can't recall anyone else having an issue with this nor doing much damage with screens. The most reported problem with stems/GonGs is that they break when dropped onto a hard surface (ceramic floors being the biggest problem).
As far as the rest, it seems like you're engineering a custom vape of some sort, or looking for competitors to merge and make you the perfect vape. Perhaps you would be more comfortable with a glass screen or could have OGB (or another blower) make something custom that would fit on a nano. As an alternative, degummed hemp fiber could be used as a screen instead of the normal metal baskets.
For me? I'm good with the adjustable screen system as it is, and love the ability to adjust - even if I put my screens in at the exact same depth every time. My only gripes are having to stretch them to keep them tight (could also replace for cheap), what a bitch it can be to get them into the glass, how they will poke your fingers while futzing with them if not careful and how quickly they get dirty enough to affect performance. But, don't think much can be done about any of these issues. And, none are really that big of a deal.
dontmindme
Active Member
A perfect vape would be nice... but I was just thinking of all the options for an adjustable stem if I were to purchase another unit one day.
Not really trying to get competitors to merge as none of them actually make the glass as far as I know. Just thought it'd be easier for them to use the same size tubing and invest in a ceramic screen system, and have interchangeable tubes for different loads and length, and gong fittings... making it universal. Besides, I personally think they all collaborate or atleast help each other from time to time. A few small companies can make the funds to produce this while one might not. Their internals and device all differ in design and materials somewhat... maybe it could be as easy as them just adding threading to their heater cover to adopt this stem or any other someone or they could think of... I don't know, Just thought it'd be better when it's all set up to cut glass to size, polish and assemble the pieces rather than infusing a glass screen in a fixed location. The end result would also be more consistent but there's probably no reason to change the system if it works for everyone.
Either way... it's not like I'll ever create a unit, or spend the money on a custom stem... but If any maker does want to utilize any of the ideas, I'd most likely buy it. I thought companies like user feedback?
And it was probably just that stem... and they offered to send a new one, but the reason for returning the unit was being informed I was not able to use it indoors right after receiving it. I actually think the enano is one of the best options for a vaporizer right now. It's exactly what I look for in a vaporizer.
Anyways It's a bad idea putting those smaller screens wrapped in hemp as it could loose its placement without hemp fiber at the top. I'm gonna delete that. i'm an idiot.
Not really trying to get competitors to merge as none of them actually make the glass as far as I know. Just thought it'd be easier for them to use the same size tubing and invest in a ceramic screen system, and have interchangeable tubes for different loads and length, and gong fittings... making it universal. Besides, I personally think they all collaborate or atleast help each other from time to time. A few small companies can make the funds to produce this while one might not. Their internals and device all differ in design and materials somewhat... maybe it could be as easy as them just adding threading to their heater cover to adopt this stem or any other someone or they could think of... I don't know, Just thought it'd be better when it's all set up to cut glass to size, polish and assemble the pieces rather than infusing a glass screen in a fixed location. The end result would also be more consistent but there's probably no reason to change the system if it works for everyone.
Either way... it's not like I'll ever create a unit, or spend the money on a custom stem... but If any maker does want to utilize any of the ideas, I'd most likely buy it. I thought companies like user feedback?
And it was probably just that stem... and they offered to send a new one, but the reason for returning the unit was being informed I was not able to use it indoors right after receiving it. I actually think the enano is one of the best options for a vaporizer right now. It's exactly what I look for in a vaporizer.
Anyways It's a bad idea putting those smaller screens wrapped in hemp as it could loose its placement without hemp fiber at the top. I'm gonna delete that. i'm an idiot.
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Baron23
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I have put baskets in and out of stems and GonGs and never got even close to damaging the glass with the basket wires.
I don't know, I would say you got a bum stem as there is no way that a screen basket should be chipping or scoring a boro stem (or so I believe until corrected).
Cheers
in four years of production, I've never heard of anybody damaging the stem from moving/removing the screen.
@dontmindme returned the unit unused and with no stem damage.
dontmindme
Active Member
Whoa... that's a great sale considering if you were to buy a unit it'd add up to 200 almost for a standard. Are these gift cards digital or an actual physical card? And with the free shipping code...
flotntoke
thoroughly vaped
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SWEET!!! Just added another item to flotntoke's Christmas list for Santa. Still don't know how he does it, but somehow he gets me things and has the money deducted from my account.
He waits until I get way stoned and orders shit online all the time. Even when it's not Christmas. I like the stuff, but he's always screwing up my budget - Bastard! No "special" butter cookies for him this year.
Oh yeah... here he is "working". Fat-assed old stoner! He's always digging into my stash, too.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I guess for me having a universal mouthpiece would be nice but not an important factor. Definitely not a deal breaker IMO. Taste and great flavor wins the race.
The thick strong stems are the nano's strong suit compared to something like the thin Solo stems. Each stem that's made for that particular log vape - fits like a hand in a glove for the most part, each glass piece can be a bit different. If a stem is off in size Epic will give you an exchange. The Nano stem will sometimes withstand a fall. That doesn't happen very often with the thinner stems made for other vaporizers.
I prefer the adjustable stems verses the permanent screen glass stems. If usining a glass screen you can always use a metal screen they are easy enough to cut if you wanted to add that on top. The holes are pretty large so using nuggets works best.
When buying a vaporizer think long term. Will this last you 6 months or a year or much longer?
I'm confidant the nano will last me for many years to come. You want to get your money's worth. Speaking of $ the Enano uses less cannabis than all my other units. You will save on the cannabis budget from the get go.
The thick strong stems are the nano's strong suit compared to something like the thin Solo stems. Each stem that's made for that particular log vape - fits like a hand in a glove for the most part, each glass piece can be a bit different. If a stem is off in size Epic will give you an exchange. The Nano stem will sometimes withstand a fall. That doesn't happen very often with the thinner stems made for other vaporizers.
I prefer the adjustable stems verses the permanent screen glass stems. If usining a glass screen you can always use a metal screen they are easy enough to cut if you wanted to add that on top. The holes are pretty large so using nuggets works best.
When buying a vaporizer think long term. Will this last you 6 months or a year or much longer?
I'm confidant the nano will last me for many years to come. You want to get your money's worth. Speaking of $ the Enano uses less cannabis than all my other units. You will save on the cannabis budget from the get go.
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Here is the first and only stabilized maple E-Nano. It is infused with resin and dye so it is not 100% natural like the rest of our E-Nanos but I had to try one. There is no wood in our air path so the resin doesn't affect the flavor, but it does make it run a little hotter. The blank alone cost me $100. She sure is pretty in person. I'll post a high res pic later today as well as put it on the website for sale for $325.