flotntoke

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Thanks Flotntoke,

Both the JoDa and Ed's stems look badass! Are they longer than the stock glass Nano System? Also, which stems are tops for flavor and lack of harshness at higher temps? I don't use water...

Yeah, as you know, you have to hit the Solo super slow and it still loses heat during the draw. So are you saying you can hit the Nano pretty aggressively and it will still maintain temperature? That sounds like a recipe for huge clouds!! That explains the more intense high you can get from the Nano as compared to the Solo.

So, when using the 2 hit full extraction technique you just put in a small load. In other words, if you want to consume say .15 you will get better extraction and efficiency by breaking it into 3 small 2 hit loads than throwing the entire .15 in there at once. Is that right?

Do you know the minimum and maximum temperatures for Nano?

For those of you hitting Nano dry, what temperature is your favorite? I'd like to be able to blow large clouds in the 425F range with reasonable level of smoothness.

I'm thinking with at the higher temps, I should get more intensely medicated with the Nano than the Solo in a shorter time. I mean, the Solo is a great vape, but it seems it always takes at least 15 minutes or more to cash a stem of .15g say 20 hits. If I can do three 2 hit mini loads (.05) with the Nano, I could probably cut that down to 5 minutes. Now, when you put a new stem in Nano it heats up immediately and you can get to work right away... Right?

Glad to help @Chill Dude ! Still really lovin my nano after more than a year, and think it remains the best bang for the buck plug-in vape.

Haven't met an Ed's stem in person yet (on my shopping list), but plenty of pics in the last 15 pages or so and as you see others love them. My Joda stem is also a tad smaller than the stock, but is tapered which I think helps airflow (screen works either direction. I go basket away from nano). I think most of his are similar in size to the stock, but all custom so a bit different. Joda & stock are about same harshness. See my post last page mentioning cotton. It will tone down harshness considerably, and collect vapor goo to vape later.

Nano stays at temp level way beyond solo. Have only used a cloud a couple times one night, and was pretty buzzed & kinda drunk in group setting - but is only thing I have tried that does this as well. I would say better, but had limited use and don't know if you can really do "better" than nano in this regard. The HI is also supposed to do very well here, but probably still a few months from finding out myself!;)

I haven't tried to check actual temps, but neither I nor any one of my 7-8 friends who use my nano on occasion can drain the heat. If you hit it harder or faster it just gives more vapor. Can be kind of weird coming from other vapes, where more pull/airflow sucks the heat down. Also can give a lung busting cough if you try to outpace her! Much discussion about it here, but think this is due to AC power and this heating element. Whatever the case, solo just can't compete here.

Yes... full solo load will do at least 3, 2-hit nano loads. I do call them 2-hit as that is what the innovator @Caligula named them. But, mine usually go 3 with the third being wispier. Just hard to use little enough easily for my personal 2 hit load. And, even if I load a bit more (to aim for 3-4 hits), after 2 the flavor and intensity noticeably drops off. These hits are by no means "bad" in any way, just not as good as the first 2.

I actually do load like this (and sometimes a bit more) often. Last night was watching a movie. Before movie I did two 2-hit loads to get there. Then I kick the heat up 1/2 notch, bump the screen down, double or triple the load size and take a few hits when I feel like it. Stir after those two and set it aside until I want another hit or 2. Depending on my mood and the movie, these 8 - 12 hits will carry me through to the credits.

Min heat is 0 :lol: ! I'd guess top heat "11", is well over 500 F (550?). Probably don't want to go there unless you're doing concentrates (which I can't get unless I make :cry:), and am thinking concentrates through dry stem would be pretty wicked (wicked harsh and wicked buzz!). Around 5 on dial is about as low as you can go and still get vapor. It's very thin & wispy, but oh so fucking tasty at about 5.5. I'd say don't get too caught up on exact temp number, same as with any vape. Once you use it a few times you'll get a feel for what you like in dial setting, and can pretty easily gauge how a 1/4 setting or more either direction is going to effect temp. For me, with my nano/dial, my stash, my joda stem with some cotton in it and my preferred vapor density, 6 - 6 1/4 dry is the spot. Sometimes go lower, sometimes higher and sometimes start lower and work my way higher (like start around 5 3/4 and work up to a touch more than 6 1/2).

Sorry, should have made this clearer above... your 5 minute session time would be on a warmed up nano. You can get it pretty much up to heat in about 5 minutes if you set it on 10 for almost 5 minutes and drop heat down to where you like for a minute or so. I usually just put on my setting and wait 10. This puts it right there every time. You can also leave your nano on all the time. I leave mine on for days at a time with no issue at all. Just kick the heat down to 4 or 5. Takes a minute or 2 to get up to 6-8 from there. If your wood is warm, you're definitely ready to go. But, you can get your good hits while wood is still warming.

Most of this info and much more here in the thread. Check the search function! Don't really want to toot my own horn, but if you do a search of just my posts and read the longer ones from the last few months you should find plenty of great info & tips. Read those closeby to them for even more great info!

EDIT: The chart seems to be a rough guideline. I think this may be why Andy doesn't have it up on the website. It is from his old website. It does seem to be pretty close compared to digital temp on EQ, but really a tough call. Notice the chart only goes to 8. Nano dial goes to 11!! Actually only goes to a touch above 10, but the 11 is on there. Very cool! But, the nano will easily go to temps much higher than the chart shows. Haven't tested in a while but I start combusting around 8 1/2, even with load a good bit further from heating element than I usually have it.
 
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flotntoke

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Reason to love the Nano #784:

I fell this morning, and knocked my Nano off the nightstand. I'm pretty bruised, but the Nano is Just Fine. :tup:

I shudder to think what would have happened if it had been my EVO there.... :cuss:

Only #784? I thought we were well over 1,000! :D

Be careful, Enchanre! Hope you're OK! No doubts the nano is. Not as bad with the newer cord, but mine used to be a fucking acrobat with the old stiff, shorter cord. It would flop off the table at least weekly. I keep the area below it clear so it falls right to the carpet, but nary a scratch. Probably still takes a dive monthly. Only thing that worries me is that it may damage something else! I can testify you don't want it to fall on a bare toe, not even from a 2 1/2 foot table. Ouch!

While we're on nano durability, let me add what we'll call reason #785. If you're so inclined you can wrap the cord up, put the nano in its little muslin bag and throw it in your jacket pocket. You'll need power wherever you take it, but lets see you pull that off with an EVO! Besides needing a really big pocket, I don't think I'd be OK with it bouncing around. Certainly not indestructible, but you'd probably really have to be trying to hurt a nano!
 

Chill Dude

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Nihil, that's a beautiful JoDa stem! Why is it better to insert the screen upside down? I don't really get that part?

Seren, there's something about a log vape matched with a quality wood stem... So classic. Thanks for the temp. Information. I think I'd be at the 6.5 to 7 range as I like the high and medicinal effects of the higher temps. Great temperature range for a wide variety of users.. Very cool..

Flotntoke, Great detailed post post man! It seems that most of you guys go with the backwards screen why? Gets the load closer to the heat source?

I'll check out your cotton post sounds interesting.

Yeah, I like the fact it stays on temperature and you can take more aggressive draws. The Solo will not...

It appears you have to experiment with screen height and temperature to find your own personal sweet spot. Can you adjust screen height in all the stems: stock, JoDa and Ed's?

Oh yeah, I'm cool with the 5 minute heat up time. I'm more concerned with being able to medicate within say 5 to 7 minutes after Nano is pre heated. Thanks for the clarification..

I'll have to check out Caligula's 2 hit technique on this thread. Caligula you're becoming the rock star of the vape world with all your insight and innovation lol...

Thanks for all the information. So far, sounds like E Nano could be a good fit for my needs!
 

Chill Dude

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Thanks guys! @Chill Dude you can find the link to that video in my signature.

Thanks man, I'll check out your video. Do you typically invert the screen as well? And why? Okay, I'll check out the vid the answer is probably there.

I loved the cotton concentrate video! Have you tried it dry at temp 8 or 9 or is it too harsh? Do you feel Nano gets hot enough for full extraction even with shatter?

I'm just wondering because the new e nails like the VB2 go to about 850F or so I believe. So I guess I'm confused.... If you can get full extraction with concentrates with Nano in the 450F range then why would one buy the VB2 for $700 + ( or a similar E nail). What's the advantage? Will u get a greater medicated effect at the super high temps of some of these E Nails? IDK, your thoughts?
 
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flotntoke

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I posted a good bit on screens and adjusting height a few pages back: Screen Tutorial

IMO screen is easier to deal with & can get closer to heat with open end of basket away from nano. Stirring is easier too, because no screen material up the side next to the load. I think adjusting where the screen is in the stem is easier, too. Much more info on that in the tutorial.

Basket screens work in Joda or stock stems, and should go in either direction. Not sure what issue others are having, but sides aren't tapered so if it fits one way it should fit the other. Sometimes can be a little tricky to squeeze the open end into the glass first, but haven't had one fit one way and not the other.

Not sure about screen use with Ed's wooden,
 

Chill Dude

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Very informative screen tutorial, but is stirring really necessary if you're only loading small loads like .05??
 
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I posted a good bit on screens and adjusting height a few pages back: Screen Tutorial

IMO screen is easier to deal with & can get closer to heat with open end of basket away from nano. Stirring is easier too, because no screen material up the side next to the load. I think adjusting where the screen is in the stem is easier, too. Much more info on that in the tutorial.

Basket screens work in Joda or stock stems, and should go in either direction. Not sure what issue others are having, but sides aren't tapered so if it fits one way it should fit the other. Sometimes can be a little tricky to squeeze the open end into the glass first, but haven't had one fit one way and not the other.

Not sure about screen use with Ed's wooden,

@flotntoke nailed it regarding the screen orientation. Basket side towards mouth is best.

Regarding my JoDa pieces, they have a "pinch" were the heady glass meets the tube. If I install a screen basket side towards mouth, the excess screen material touches the pinch, hence the screen sits higher than if I invert it. The way I use it for my preferred load size is therefore inverted..

I want to stress it works fine and fucking rocks as a stem, so this point is entirely technical, nothing more. I like it so much I just ordered 3 more.
 

flotntoke

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Very informative screen tutorial, but is stirring really necessary if you're only loading small loads like .05??

Stirring not really "necessary" with small loads, but it will even out load roasting and usually makes the second hit about as good as first. I think it is key if you're adjusting like I go into on the tutorial to help find your spot (or you could base adjustments on first hit only and just do up the second). You'll probably find .05 is plenty for a 2-hit load with the nano. My guess would be that Caligula had a bit less than .05 in his stem in the 2-hit video. Think mine have just about .05, and on occasion second hit is even better than first. 3rd is usually weaker than his 2nd in vid, though.

Just to be clear.... the uber-tweaking and fine screen adjusting is only for chasing those bingo! hits. Once you figure your sweet spot, it will deliver great hits with little adjustment for variables. But, once you get a few of those bingo! hits (through tweaking or just luck into it), I'm betting you'll be chasing for more! There may be better vape hits out there somewhere, but I sure haven't found a way. The sometimes elusive bingo! hit is the pinnacle of vaping IMO.
 

Caligula

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Its been a while since my last video, so I figured instead of writing a review comparing a water tool to dry path, Id make a video for y'all. And as always, its brought to you in full HD (whenever YT finishes processing the HD stream).

Also, please forgive the shoddiness of the content. It was done on the fly... after 2 dabs... and all in 1 take. I know I can do better. I promise I will next time. :(

 
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olysh pops

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Caligula: Nice vid and thanks for the report


I received my nano two month ago :)

Shipping was just perfect, tracking postage, safe and quick (10 days between the day I order and the day I receive it in Europe)

I got a 220V to 110V converter with 110 watt max (Us tronic TTR 100 REV), everything works great ! No noise or heat with this converter .

The amount of vapor is crazy ! I find nano very efficient... Now I understand why there is so many replies and views in this thread...hehe

Nano does a great work with hasch (th. 8 for me, 10 for water pipe), tasty and cloudy. I like to use it with glass and water, specially D020 or Herborizer xl sphere.

Even if there is no thermometer, I do not combust.

Thanks FC to make me discover it ! ;)
 

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Late night random thought (several sessions deep with my new favorite vape of course).....

I remember a few weeks back I was browsing some online stores and saw some sort of Glass stash jar designed for ABV which you could insert your glass GONG stem into the jar and blow to expel the ABV into the jar (there a screen on the top to prevent ABV from blowing out of the jar). It was for a specific vape, but I forget which one. Of course I forgot to bookmark the link and don't remember enough to google search it.

I'm wondering if anyone has something like this for expelling their ABV from their stems (sure I can do this outside on the lawn, but I hate to waste the ABV).

I'd love to find something like that to quickly & easily empty these stems when I'm passing the nano between friends.
 

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Late night random thought (several sessions deep with my new favorite vape of course).....

I remember a few weeks back I was browsing some online stores and saw some sort of Glass stash jar designed for ABV which you could insert your glass GONG stem into the jar and blow to expel the ABV into the jar (there a screen on the top to prevent ABV from blowing out of the jar). It was for a specific vape, but I forget which one. Of course I forgot to bookmark the link and don't remember enough to google search it.

I'm wondering if anyone has something like this for expelling their ABV from their stems (sure I can do this outside on the lawn, but I hate to waste the ABV).

I'd love to find something like that to quickly & easily empty these stems when I'm passing the nano between friends.
Might this be what you're looking for?
http://www.australianvaporizers.com.au/store/ssv-glass-duff-jar.html
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Late night random thought (several sessions deep with my new favorite vape of course).....

I remember a few weeks back I was browsing some online stores and saw some sort of Glass stash jar designed for ABV which you could insert your glass GONG stem into the jar and blow to expel the ABV into the jar (there a screen on the top to prevent ABV from blowing out of the jar). It was for a specific vape, but I forget which one. Of course I forgot to bookmark the link and don't remember enough to google search it.

I'm wondering if anyone has something like this for expelling their ABV from their stems (sure I can do this outside on the lawn, but I hate to waste the ABV).

I'd love to find something like that to quickly & easily empty these stems when I'm passing the nano between friends.
I love my kind cache for this, just a quick few revolutions with my poker and a bang on the cache, no worries! The new ones have an add on holder for your glass accessories too...
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jimbob

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Boy it's like heaven on the throat going from a dry path to a water path though.
And Caligula is spot on regarding the differences in how long it takes to cash a load, although this 2 hit extraction eludes me. I do stop getting clouds after the first 2, but I am not saving my AVB, so I like to make sure I'm not wasting any. Hits 3-5, although basically invisible, make me feel more medicated.
 
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flotntoke

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@jimbob nothing wrong with kicking the heat up 1/4 - 1/2 notch and stirring after first 2. Only takes 30 seconds (if that) for heat increase. Shouldn't be too bad at all through water, and you'll be able to squeeze out a few more actives as temp goes up. Vapor may get wispy but still effective. Just remember to knock it back down before you reload.

+1 on the H2O path. Though I'm enjoying the differences with dry now, too.

A nano downside? Fun to play with + effective = Damn, I'm vaked!

Page 250 soon to come! Damn this thread has grown. Congrats to Andy, all the nano-ers and the star of the show, the amazing e-nano!
 

jimbob

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@flotntoke Around 4-5 hits, with stirs in between each, on 7.5 is perfect for me. But the nano is so much fun to play with so why not experiment some more?

If I want flavour I opt for the dry path, but bong like hits through the bubbler is great for getting you medicated, and fast!

Just loving the versatility, so yes, bravo to Andy!
 
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