My guess is that a slow flame allows the glass to absorb more energy than the quick heater does heating just the cap? "Compatible but not recommended" might mean, "it'll heat the cap, but the glass won't absorb enough radiant heat to make vapor at the clicks."
My understanding is that the cap radiates/conducts heat to the bowl quickly enough to begin to roast the herbs by the time the cap clicks. I think the bowl even slows the heating of the cap until it's caught up. It's possible I guess that some induction heating of the bowl would accelerate the process, but given how it works with a flame, it's plain that the bowl gets heat from the cap--the cap is right in the flame, the bowl is 'protected' from the flame by the cap, etc. The cap must transfer heat to the bowl.
I know the cap is ferrous, and it does react to either source. An IH will heat the cap to click temp on the glass bowl.
It does indeed seem a stretch. My first test above was with with the Wand/SK insert and after two rounds it just wasn't very hot. I just tried it again with the Camouflet Inductor and turning it down and using it back-to-back you can actually get it going. But it never really got as productive as you would expect with the cumulative heat. Hits were weak to almost normal. I hope others will chime in but so far I'm not getting a lot of satisfaction with an IH. Otoh, it's really good with a torch.
Hi All. I don't have a G3 but I do have a similar glass dynavap compatible stem from the folks at PTGlass. What you're describing above is correct. You can get things going with many heatings because it takes a while for the heat to transfer enough energy from the hot cap to the surrounding glass bowl. Once the bowl is hot enough, the vapor flows much better but the whole process takes a while.
Totally adorable. And 10/10 photography. What’s the ovalesque black box inside?putting todays fleamarket find to use
thanks bud! thats a stash box. made out of titanium and holds about 2g grinded material
I run these on the Woodwynd. Generally a torch works better for me with this combination. Very flavorful. Good hits.
That's my flavor rig now, Shomni with Halo with Armored Cap.
I use the M7/M7XL—mainly the M7XL—heated exclusively with the Wand. Using the black Wand insert, I’m heating the cap, and it works consistently great every time. I‘ve found no need to heat the bottom.
Hey you're welcome! Thanks for the info about the Wand heating with the M7 and the new Halo tip. The student has become the master now
The Halo tip lets in much less air under the cap than the Helix tip. I prefer the Halo tip personally. I think it's more efficient with heat and suits my typical style of Dynavap usage better. Not sure which one sheds less to the stem, but the high airflow through the Helix tip really draws a lot of heat out of it. Flavor wise I don't like either more than the other enough to pick a favorite.
Definitely try it with everything. Everyone has their favorite combos. I tend to like it with stainless tips because using it on titanium tips mostly negates the quicker heat up and cool down of titanium tips, which is one of the features I like about them. I've tried it on the Helix a couple times and it definitely works, but I never dialed it in.
If those teeth are tapered/beveled keep an eye on them. The Dynavap G2's would sometimes chip when the clicker slapped them. (Otoh, mine are still in great shape after occasional use, so ymmv).So got a few new DV toys. Here is the 130 mm beaded cooling stem that Peterbay had recommended from Stash Shack. Works quite nicely. I decided i really like the longer device. the glass piece works fine in lieu of a real DV tip and only a cap is needed. Great taste & the cap clicked spot on. An excellent deal for only $15.
thank you for that caution. I have done a few bowls in it so far, but have not used the end in that manner. but i will be mindful and examine prior to use.
I took some approximate measurements with a ruler:
