Dynavap VapCap
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TommyDee
Vaporitor
Hey folks, i've read somewhere that the ti tip was a better choice for flowers because:
So as i vape only flowers and doing microdoses, i was thinking about it and have some questions:
- better flavor
- faster heating time
- 3 levels for micro-dosing
- Is there a big difference between a 20M tip and the ti one ?
- Or maybe i must wait a little for a newer ti version ?
- Is there someone who has those 2 ?
- How much you can put on each level of 3 ccd placements ?
I have both and used them both for a couple of bowls when I got them. Recently got the Ti one and the '20 tip was the first 419 order.
The '20-M is complicated because the mass of the cap changed. This changes the whole dynamic. In my case, it was seriously lacking in fullness of hits. My standard level that is based on '18 and '19 tip performance. It was really hard to get the heat from the cap to the tip for its inherent conduction of heat. Much greater proximity for radiated heat in general. I had trouble combusting the '20 tip. Still not my cup of tea. Runs much hotter with the extra cooling fin mass. I'm back to my '18 as a heavy hitter.
Ti - Impressed on the first bowl. Great airflow with the CCD set at 2/3rd. Forget the Ti CCD. It was toasted the moment I removed it. I spoke of these things a few pages ago. If you want to use the bowl positions, either have a lot of fresh Ti CCD's on hand or settle for the stainless ones. The Ti ones deform and no longer retain a spring fit. Heat coupling in an IH is good. A little lower power as expected but for heat transfer and cap heat provided a really good balance of convection and conduction to the herb. I didn't use the '20 cap. Something wrong with that thang
If you like small controlled draws, '20, if you like finishing off a cap in 3 draws, avoid '20 and pick any other SS or Ti. Avoid the '20 cap. This is my take on the new '20 offering. All the right words but fell flat on me. The Ti tip was a VAS buy to know what the hell I'm talking about, and I like it more than I expected. Both need more
mileage for a more refined review. These are my first and only impressions side by side.
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
I find one whack with a hammer and they are good as new. YMMV
Siebter
Less soul, more mind
That was not the case with one of my ti tips which has a ti ccd I've been using for 1½ years now.
I agree. Doesn't even have to be perfectly flat, but preparing them helps.
whatitdew
Vapes R Great
I went a little crazy on the sales this year ( and some non sales)
bought a SimRell vortex shorty with Ti tip and cap
2020 M
XL omnivong
3 futostashes (1 of them galaxy burl)
D-capper preorder
Vaphotbox portable induction heater
Annnd a worked mini beaker water piece, custom made by a local glass blower
not even sure how much the total damage $$$ was LOL
***Not feeling the 2020 M at all. The tip anyways at least.
My two favorite vapcaps out of my collection are SimRell vortex and Blackwood omnivong XL
Ti tip 4 lyfe!
bought a SimRell vortex shorty with Ti tip and cap
2020 M
XL omnivong
3 futostashes (1 of them galaxy burl)
D-capper preorder
Vaphotbox portable induction heater
Annnd a worked mini beaker water piece, custom made by a local glass blower
not even sure how much the total damage $$$ was LOL
***Not feeling the 2020 M at all. The tip anyways at least.
My two favorite vapcaps out of my collection are SimRell vortex and Blackwood omnivong XL
Ti tip 4 lyfe!
Mono Loco
Well-Known Member
I have occasionally contemplated the concept of a telescoping stem. I sure wish they listed the I.D. of this telescoping 304 S.S. drinking straw. Looks pretty cool, and cheap as ... well, as cheap as Chinese "stuff" typically is. I wonder how feasible it would be to make a coupler/adapter to fit the tip onto the straw. How big is this thing --> https://smile.amazon.com/Longzon-Pack-Telescopic-Metal-Straws/dp/B083GK624C?th=1
almost there
Well-Known Member
In theory it sounds excellent but reality is probably closer to all the mid sections getting all gummed up and stinky unless it’s maintained often
TommyDee
Vaporitor
@almost there nailed it. @Mono Loco - think along the lines of a tent poles. Quick connects and a clever little tote.
AcidFlashbang
Well-Known Member
I used a fresh SS ccd out of my cvap and that one clicked right into the smallest position on the Ti tip. It seems much kore secure than any of the other CCD's/screens I've used. I gotta try pulling on my other ones with pliers and see if that helps.
Hawaiian
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@Mono Loco @TommyDee
Ty guys. Its really PITA to put a screen at the middle on my 20M, it never clicks or goes right into it, always kinda stuck 1mm near.
The airflow is also too open, even if i close the carb. Unfortunately I cant even test my old 18' tip because a friend of mine has combusted it.
Sounds like i must pull the trigger
Ty guys. Its really PITA to put a screen at the middle on my 20M, it never clicks or goes right into it, always kinda stuck 1mm near.
The airflow is also too open, even if i close the carb. Unfortunately I cant even test my old 18' tip because a friend of mine has combusted it.
Sounds like i must pull the trigger
@stark1 you beat me to it.
Seems a long time ago that this idea came to being @Mono Loco.
I'd worry about any coating on the 'SS' straws. Plain one enroute.
The ID is too small for off the shelf use but it can be modified.
As others have said cleaning is the only issue. A regular wipe with an Iso'd q tip.
Seems a long time ago that this idea came to being @Mono Loco.
I'd worry about any coating on the 'SS' straws. Plain one enroute.
The ID is too small for off the shelf use but it can be modified.
As others have said cleaning is the only issue. A regular wipe with an Iso'd q tip.
stark1
Lonesome Planet
@stark1 you beat me to it.
Seems a long time ago that this idea came to being @Mono Loco.
I'd worry about any coating on the 'SS' straws. Plain one enroute.
The ID is too small for off the shelf use but it can be modified.
As others have said cleaning is the only issue. A regular wipe with an Iso'd q tip.
You are an inspiration, PP!
Not (as) elegant — I-like-Glass
Needs 1 mo’ O-ring. YMMV.
“Telly” VC (mit intercooler IN-cluded
)
~~~~~~~~
You can be gentler if you put a piece of wood between the thin Ti screen
And the heavy hammer blow (which will tend to make the screen a silly nanometer thinner) before
whacckED-ing it. YMMV
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Cereal4dinner
Well-Known Member
Yeh i agree with this. The 2020m has the best airflow so far. But the titanium still heats up and cools down faster
I'm okay with it like this - Removed o-ring, reversed, and a personal choice mouthpiece. I hate metal and glass against my teeth so wood is great, specially your own turn.
Still too damn heavy but it looks good.
And no one else uses my rigs. I can live with my funk.I ain't drawin' on yours, that's for sure
That looks way better than the brown wood mouth piece, that almost looks like ivory or something, i like it!
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LabPong
Well-Known Member
I have both and used them both for a couple of bowls when I got them. Recently got the Ti one and the '20 tip was the first 419 order.
The '20-M is complicated because the mass of the cap changed. This changes the whole dynamic. In my case, it was seriously lacking in fullness of hits. My standard level that is based on '18 and '19 tip performance. It was really hard to get the heat from the cap to the tip for its inherent conduction of heat. Much greater proximity for radiated heat in general. I had trouble combusting the '20 tip. Still not my cup of tea. Runs much hotter with the extra cooling fin mass. I'm back to my '18 as a heavy hitter.
Ti - Impressed on the first bowl. Great airflow with the CCD set at 2/3rd. Forget the Ti CCD. It was toasted the moment I removed it. I spoke of these things a few pages ago. If you want to use the bowl positions, either have a lot of fresh Ti CCD's on hand or settle for the stainless ones. The Ti ones deform and no longer retain a spring fit. Heat coupling in an IH is good. A little lower power as expected but for heat transfer and cap heat provided a really good balance of convection and conduction to the herb. I didn't use the '20 cap. Something wrong with that thang
If you like small controlled draws, '20, if you like finishing off a cap in 3 draws, avoid '20 and pick any other SS or Ti. Avoid the '20 cap. This is my take on the new '20 offering. All the right words but fell flat on me. The Ti tip was a VAS buy to know what the hell I'm talking about, and I like it more than I expected. Both need more
mileage for a more refined review. These are my first and only impressions side by side.
When you use the word "cap" what are you referring to?
cap = vapcap
cap = cap, the part that fit over the tip?
Some might take your wording wrong......
Mono Loco
Well-Known Member
So ... James Bond-ish ... which means COOL! You should work with "Q". Now, howzabout' a meter-long flexible tube/hosing that can be hidden into a belt? Or, maybe instead of a "Smoking Jacket", a Vaping Jacket with a long tube that runs from sleeve cuff to sleeve cuff, across the back, such that one can somehow bring one's wrist to one's mouth to take a hit ... and look like a Secret Service guy talking into a mini microphone!
Planck
believes in Dog
Huh?
Hawaiian
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When i passed it to him he never vaped it, just combusted for a long time. So its all black with a strong smell, dropped it in ISO for 1 night and wiped it with a cotton. The smell still present
LabPong
Well-Known Member
Agreed........probably needs physical scrubbing with a qtip around the bowl area. Lots of grooves and trenches to clean in that part. And if the friend used it as a dugout and bat.....it's probably nasty thick with buildup.
Hawaiian
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@cybrguy @LabPong @TommyDee
Hm, so i kinda need to polish this lil guy
haha, the real story behind the scene is that i was waiting for my Crafty after sending it to RMA so i purchased the 18M just for 2 weeks. I've got a double torch with it and it never worked well and i didn't knew how to properly use the thing so i passed it to my homie 
so his dad can smoke it like a pipe without putting tobacco. (he had several heart attacks)
Hm, so i kinda need to polish this lil guy
haha, the real story behind the scene is that i was waiting for my Crafty after sending it to RMA so i purchased the 18M just for 2 weeks. I've got a double torch with it and it never worked well and i didn't knew how to properly use the thing so i passed it to my homie so his dad can smoke it like a pipe without putting tobacco. (he had several heart attacks)
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TommyDee
Vaporitor
When I refer to the cap it is just the cap. I will always signify a vapcap proper as VC or VapCap in text.
Dremel has a wire brush that can get in there. Use steel brushes and not brass.