Dynavap VapCap
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Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
VapCaps sound right up your ally. It emulates the dugout/one hitter feel with the small load at the end and heating it at the end, and also hits some of the "joint smoking" type feels. Small, in your hand, you get vapor as you inhale like you would with a joint, no need to hold a lighter up to your face like a one hitter. So long as you have the manual dexterity to operate a small jet lighter and spin the VapCap, this looks like a good choice. I only mention manual dexterity because while I'm not in my 60's, I do have constant pain in the joints in my hands (all of them). There were times when I would pick something else because as much as I loved my VapCaps, I couldn't use them the way I wanted. @Pipes makes induction heaters and I believe somebody else is messing around with them as well, which would solve that problem, but for money...
How much are you looking to spend on a "trial VapCap M" by the way? Thanksgiving is coming up and there are a lot of people that are not very fortunate or have little to be thankful for. I'll make you a deal. If you donate $25 to Doctors Without Borders and send me a personal message of the confirmation for donation page, I'll mail you the last VapCap M that I got from that anonymous donor. It's a full unit, so it has the metal screen and the actual cap and it comes in its own little green tube. That means you'll only need to purchase a jet lighter of your choice to heat it up and use.
https://donate.doctorswithoutborders.org/onetime.cfm
This is one of few organizations that really do use the donation money in the best ways possible. I don't care who you put it on behalf of. The doctors that work there are angels sent from heaven if such a thing is possible. They just recently reached a deal to obtain generic medications to treat Hepatitis C for around $1.50 a day. People's lives are literally going to be changed for $1.50 a day. I have some semi-serious health issues myself and to think that people will benefit from such a small amount of money in such a big way really puts things into perspective for me...
http://www.mdmag.com/medical-news/doctors-without-boards-secure-generics-for-hepatitis-c
They were critical in the fight against Ebola when that was happening.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-without-borders-shows-how-to-manage-a-plague
Truly one of the organizations I feel most comfortable giving money to. Let me know if you want to take me up on the offer.
pxl_jockey
Just a dude
^Just one more example of the random acts of kindness that run through the pages of this thread.^
@Quetzalcoatl Thank you for the info on DWB charity! I didn't know how their donations were allocated, you are correct in that it's important to know where the $ goes. I discovered Red Cross UK uses donations in shocking ways that do nothing for those I wanted to help, so been wanting a new way to help. As an FCer who's life has been saved at least 6 times by modern medicine, the thought of folks with no access to even basic medicine/healthcare touches me. So often I need my perspective adjusted, even with my medical past because I'm a human, I can & do often lose perspective on how great just being alive is.
Love VapCap magic!
@Quetzalcoatl Thank you for the info on DWB charity! I didn't know how their donations were allocated, you are correct in that it's important to know where the $ goes. I discovered Red Cross UK uses donations in shocking ways that do nothing for those I wanted to help, so been wanting a new way to help. As an FCer who's life has been saved at least 6 times by modern medicine, the thought of folks with no access to even basic medicine/healthcare touches me. So often I need my perspective adjusted, even with my medical past because I'm a human, I can & do often lose perspective on how great just being alive is.
Love VapCap magic!
stark1
Lonesome Planet
Lou, a Ti Gen 7 tip? How about a tip? I missed Ti Gen 6?
We are indeed picking up the pace.....
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Smokey McVape
Well-Known Member
@mccringleberry - I get 4 heat cycles out of a FULL bowl! Care to share your method of getting 8-10 as I'll try anything once!
ClearBlueLou
unbearably light in the being....
Lou, a Ti Gen 7 tip? How about a tip? I missed Ti Gen 6?
We are indeed picking up the pace.....
...'TI 7-fin tip'...So sorry, amigos - bizarre weekend...
gpaw56
Member
PM sent. Thanks for your generosity. Already beginning to appreciate the forum in the few days I've been here.
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
I haven't done the math on your purchase, but for the 420 sale I bought a bunch of parts that ended up being the full part list of a Nonavong minus a cap, and after the fact I realized that the price had turned out to be exactly what it would have cost to just buy a complete Nonavong, cap included.
My point is that buying a complete VC from the part list could cost more than buying a complete VC. Be sure to do the math first if you are going that way..
Edward Hyde
Well-Known Member
Is there some place to get the M with a discount or a bundle?
mucsusn
60 going on 20
Not sure........maybe you could read just this page????
Edward Hyde
Well-Known Member
I read it and saw some people talking about 20% discount and 40$ price but probably i am too stoned and /or my english isnt good enough to get it. thanks for the answer mate.
this friday dude
https://www.puffitup.com/VapCap-M-DynaVap-p/dyna.vapcap-m.htm - guess it may be code DYNA
https://www.dynavap.com/dynashop/vaporizers/special-products/the-m/the-m
https://www.puffitup.com/VapCap-M-DynaVap-p/dyna.vapcap-m.htm - guess it may be code DYNA
https://www.dynavap.com/dynashop/vaporizers/special-products/the-m/the-m
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
Doctors Without Borders is one of the "Smile" charities that can be added to your Amazon account to get a tiny piece of your purchases. It IS a tiny piece, but many tiny pieces pile up to significant charity and it costs nothing to you. Definitely worthwhile.
Added: I also wanted to remind (and share with @Edward Hyde ) that there IS a black Friday thread... http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/black-friday-2017.25692/#post-1183583
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Summer
Long Island, NY
@stardustsailor posted this on his thread, but it's definitely worthy of being reposted here. Damn! Now I want a gen 4/7 fin more than ever.
"A ) Stems : metal vs mineral/organic and length .
- Stems made out of Titanium (or stainless steel ,copper,bronze,etc) do absorb more
heat from vapor than stems made out of wood,carbon fiber,acrylic/PMMA,bone,horn,etc.
Thus,the vapor is somewhat cooler.
- The XL (79 mm) stems provide cooler vapor than the standard length (62 mm) stems.
B ) Toking : Mouthpulling vs lung inhaling
- Mouthpulls are creating a negative pressure only inside the mouth cavity ,with
the utilisation of facial muscles (mainly the cheeks ) .The range of muscle movement is quite
limited ,but the negative pressure created by mouthpulls is quite big.
My own longest mouthpull is not more than 2-3 seconds.
Smoking a cigarette,sucking liquids from a straw/tube are two examples of mouthpull utilisation.
The vapor stays for a while in the mouth cavity before it gets inhaled from the lungs.
Thus,it cools and gets filtered also.Using a carbless stem on a VapCap is the same as operating
the VC with the carb hole fully closed.So,mouthpulls is the only way to go ,at this case.
-Lung inhaling is creating a negative pressure almost
throughout the whole human respiratory apparatus.
The diaphragm and the sternum muscles are utilised.
The range of muscle movement is rather large,
but the negative pressure created by lung inhalling is quite limited.
Duration of toke can go up to 10 seconds ,
with some individuals being able to extend this limit even further.
Deep breathing ,feeling the lungs before a dive,toking from a whip /balloon are some examples.
As it is understood and probably well experienced ,any draw restriction at this case
will only cause discomfort .
C ) 4th gen / 7 fin Ti tip vs 5th gen / 5 fin Ti tip : A personal experience
The new Ti tip ( 5th gen ) has 20% less mass than the 4th gen tip.
That means that it has 20% less thermal capacitance ,also.
In practice the 5th gen tip is 20% faster than the 4th gen tip.
Quite small difference ,but with the use of different length Ti stems ,
it kinda makes a "statement" to a keen and experienced VC user.
4th gen Ti tip + 62 mm standard length stem : Quite a lot of vapor production,
with full "body" vapor .Somewhat hot also,with the aroma & taste being subdued.
4th gen Ti tip + 79 mm XL length stem : A perfect combination !
Lots of vapor production ,the body of the vapor is there,the taste & aroma also there
and the temperature of the vapor is just as it has to be.
5th gen Ti tip + 62 mm standard length stem : It's my second favourite option.
It's like the above combo,just with a bit more taste & aroma somewhat,but the vapor
also being a bit hotter with less body .
5th gen Ti tip + 79 mm XL length stem : A good combo for resin,oil,wax ,etc.
With this combo ,going a bit past the click will quickly increase the chamber temperature
to the extraction point ,but also will quickly start decreasing thus not allowing for mishappens.
The vapor is quite cool ,at least for the high temps involved .
Reminds of dabbing.
If used with herb ,this combo is the best option for aroma & taste (respecting the click ,this time),but the vapor lacks a heavy body .Very cool and aromatic vapor ,but rather " light bodied ".
Ideal for those with sensitive respiratory system."
"A ) Stems : metal vs mineral/organic and length .
- Stems made out of Titanium (or stainless steel ,copper,bronze,etc) do absorb more
heat from vapor than stems made out of wood,carbon fiber,acrylic/PMMA,bone,horn,etc.
Thus,the vapor is somewhat cooler.
- The XL (79 mm) stems provide cooler vapor than the standard length (62 mm) stems.
B ) Toking : Mouthpulling vs lung inhaling
- Mouthpulls are creating a negative pressure only inside the mouth cavity ,with
the utilisation of facial muscles (mainly the cheeks ) .The range of muscle movement is quite
limited ,but the negative pressure created by mouthpulls is quite big.
My own longest mouthpull is not more than 2-3 seconds.
Smoking a cigarette,sucking liquids from a straw/tube are two examples of mouthpull utilisation.
The vapor stays for a while in the mouth cavity before it gets inhaled from the lungs.
Thus,it cools and gets filtered also.Using a carbless stem on a VapCap is the same as operating
the VC with the carb hole fully closed.So,mouthpulls is the only way to go ,at this case.
-Lung inhaling is creating a negative pressure almost
throughout the whole human respiratory apparatus.
The diaphragm and the sternum muscles are utilised.
The range of muscle movement is rather large,
but the negative pressure created by lung inhalling is quite limited.
Duration of toke can go up to 10 seconds ,
with some individuals being able to extend this limit even further.
Deep breathing ,feeling the lungs before a dive,toking from a whip /balloon are some examples.
As it is understood and probably well experienced ,any draw restriction at this case
will only cause discomfort .
C ) 4th gen / 7 fin Ti tip vs 5th gen / 5 fin Ti tip : A personal experience
The new Ti tip ( 5th gen ) has 20% less mass than the 4th gen tip.
That means that it has 20% less thermal capacitance ,also.
In practice the 5th gen tip is 20% faster than the 4th gen tip.
Quite small difference ,but with the use of different length Ti stems ,
it kinda makes a "statement" to a keen and experienced VC user.
4th gen Ti tip + 62 mm standard length stem : Quite a lot of vapor production,
with full "body" vapor .Somewhat hot also,with the aroma & taste being subdued.
4th gen Ti tip + 79 mm XL length stem : A perfect combination !
Lots of vapor production ,the body of the vapor is there,the taste & aroma also there
and the temperature of the vapor is just as it has to be.
5th gen Ti tip + 62 mm standard length stem : It's my second favourite option.
It's like the above combo,just with a bit more taste & aroma somewhat,but the vapor
also being a bit hotter with less body .
5th gen Ti tip + 79 mm XL length stem : A good combo for resin,oil,wax ,etc.
With this combo ,going a bit past the click will quickly increase the chamber temperature
to the extraction point ,but also will quickly start decreasing thus not allowing for mishappens.
The vapor is quite cool ,at least for the high temps involved .
Reminds of dabbing.
If used with herb ,this combo is the best option for aroma & taste (respecting the click ,this time),but the vapor lacks a heavy body .Very cool and aromatic vapor ,but rather " light bodied ".
Ideal for those with sensitive respiratory system."
hinglemccringleberry
Well-Known Member
Are you using low quality bud with barely any crystals at all? It will vary with bud quality, the size of the hits, how far you take your AVB, and whether or not you grind. But if I set the chamber to the largest size and fill to the brim with ground bud, I can get at least 10 cycles with the top shelf California stuff we have here. But 99% of the time, I use the smallest chamber and do a short session with 0.03-0.04 because thats all I need. Itll also vary based on varying preferences of how extracted you like your herb to be..
mucsusn
60 going on 20
Just a beautiful comparison post! How do we put this in best of???
Also, was reflecting on the many frames of reference available in this forum. My favorite vapcap? The one that is out today!!!
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
Obviously we do this differently, but are you saying that you can get 10 cycles with visible vapor? That is quite impressive and WAY better than I can do.
I like that a lot...
Lately I've been thinking ,that apart from the way the tip/cap combo is heated
and the way the user inhales ,the quality ,humidity & surface (grinded or not )
of herb ,are also three more variables ,which in combination with the former two ,
they kinda "set" or "limit " the number of heat cycles till ABV residues are obtained .
Alterations to any or more of the five forementioned variables
can score from minimun 2-3 cycles ,
up to a of 7-8 heat cycles -or even more ! ,
all with visible vapor -except the first cycle maybe.
Cheers.
@stardustsailor many thanks, I'll be in touch for a bit of a collaboration if your up for it.
I'm sure you've got some off cuts we can use up.
I'm sure you've got some off cuts we can use up.
Sure,anytime !
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
@stardustsailor
You may have not mentioned glass because the glass VCs are mostly history.
I noticed you didn't mention glass in this materials description. Is that because you believe that glass stems may absorb more heat (and cool off vapor better) than Ti or other metals? I'm guessing so but what do you think? I am thinking here about other stem based vapes rather than VCs specifically.
You may have not mentioned glass because the glass VCs are mostly history.
mucsusn
60 going on 20
Holy shit, I can just imagine some @phattpiggie and @stardustsailor collabs!!!