Dynavap VapCap

[WoodVillain]

I took it to mean that vaporization efficiency is higher when you don't fill or pack the chamber. If you start out by vaping only a tiny amount, you will get higher proportionally than when vaping a full bowl.

Yes.

The way i tested this is very easy...

Fill and pack the vapcap to FULL. Vape it to competition.

After the buzz has worn off...

Fill it full and pack again... Then knock it all out, and separate in into 2 or 3 separate loads... Vape them both/all back to back..

The same amount split into separate, less full, loads get me higher EVERY TIME!


Works combusting too..

I use to smoke blunts in my teen years... Then an old hippy told me to split the same amount i normally put into a blunt into 3 separate joints... I got way higher with only 2 of 3 said joints. Never smoked blunts again... And started rolling even smaller joints and still getting just as high.

 

[Alexis]

Yes.

The way i tested this is very easy...

Fill and pack the vapcap to FULL. Vape it to competition.

After the buzz has worn off...

Fill it full and pack again... Then knock it all out, and separate in into 2 or 3 separate loads... Vape them both/all back to back..

The same amount split into separate, less full, loads get me higher EVERY TIME!


Works combusting too..

I use to smoke blunts in my teen years... Then an old hippy told me to split the same amount i normally put into a blunt into 3 separate joints... I got way higher with only 2 of 3 said joints. Never smoked blunts again... And started rolling even smaller joints and still getting just as high.

Im sure that probably the biggest factor is the importance of some open airflow around amd through the herbs. Makes perfect sense and quite obvious too really.

 

[hinglemccringleberry]

Actually exhaling big vapor clouds is counterproductive enough.
Those "big vapor clouds" are actually "juice" that is being wasted into thin air .

Whether the vaporising unit is producing visible amounts of vapor or not ,
the user should exhale as little (visble or not ) vapor as possible.

Still,I 've pretty good reasons to trust that units producing lots of visisble vapor,
tend to issue the psycortropic effects of cannabis quite faster than the units
producing vapor in a more "gentle" manner .

I dont understand why people bash cloud chasing. Trying to be a dictator of style of usage is not cool. Part of the reason I love the VC in the first place is because of its ability to produce dense vapor.
Its very simple: big clouds are satisfying. Light, whispy clouds are not. This whole "wasting vapor" thing is moot-- If you get uber satisfaction from blowing out thick vapor, then the vapor did not go to waste, as the dense vapor that is visible is being used to create satisfaction.

 

[Alexis]

I dont understand why people bash cloud chasing. Trying to be a dictator of style of usage is not cool. Part of the reason I love the VC in the first place is because of its ability to produce dense vapor.
Its very simple: big clouds are satisfying. Light, whispy clouds are not. This whole "wasting vapor" thing is moot-- If you get uber satisfaction from blowing out thick vapor, then the vapor did not go to waste, as the dense vapor that is visible is being used to create satisfaction.

It is only technically "wasteful" in a financial, or "resourceful" sense. So if there is overflowing abundance, as there SHOULD be with ganja, then nothing is actually wasted, almost by definition.

I agree with your thinking and respect that, however I have conserved my weed for many years due to supply and tolerance issues, and I have always felt a little guilty about exhaling huge clouds prematurely.
I too like large clouds of dense vapor for the bigger hit, but I usually try not to exhale it too immediately.

 

[stardustsailor]

I dont understand why people bash cloud chasing. Trying to be a dictator of style of usage is not cool. Part of the reason I love the VC in the first place is because of its ability to produce dense vapor.
Its very simple: big clouds are satisfying. Light, whispy clouds are not. This whole "wasting vapor" thing is moot-- If you get uber satisfaction from blowing out thick vapor, then the vapor did not go to waste, as the dense vapor that is visible is being used to create satisfaction.

Brother ,you 're using some heavy words there,without any real reason.

You can get satisfied from spilling a glass full of water on the floor.
But that won't satisfy your thirst.

If you -personally -are vaporising cannabis just to create huge clouds ,because in that way you get satisfied ,well by all means you're free to do it and have every right to do so.

But most of people vaporising cannabis are after of some other type of satisfaction.

Using logical thinking and science facts does not make somebody a "dictator of style of usage".

If cannabinoids end up absorbed from lungs ,then you get high .
If instead the vapor is exhalled violently -like smoke - then ,yes,it can be visually satisfying,but
claiming that is not counterproductive faces few science facts against.
Claiming otherwise aka stating the physics behind it,really makes someone a " dictator"?
I tried to help by giving some info-not made up in my mind .
That's your way of contributing ?

Brother,I really do not know you,I do not have a problem with you or your opinion,
neither I've criticised you -giving you the right to do the same-in any way.
Neither I "bashed" about cloud chasing.
Please do me a small favour and choose more carefully which words you 're using.
Thank you.

 

[Winegums]

Hello Squiby! That makes sense actually. I'm sure there are a number of mechanisms behind it, one surely being that there will be less loss of actives from conduction as the material will not be pressed against the edges so much and there will be overall less surface contact.

Could be wrong about that of course, but I have always felt that there will be inevitable loss of some actives from the conduction aspect of the vapcaps.

Why would conduction result in the loss of actives? Wouldn’t it just vapourize what is in contact with the walls?

 

[hinglemccringleberry]

Brother ,you 're using some heavy words there,without any real reason.

You can get satisfied from spilling a glass full of water on the floor.
But that won't satisfy your thirst.

If you -personally -are vaporising cannabis just to create huge clouds ,because in that way you get satisfied ,well by all means you're free to do it and have every right to do so.

But most of people vaporising cannabis are after of some other type of satisfaction.

Using logical thinking and science facts does not make somebody a "dictator of style of usage".

If cannabinoids end up absorbed from lungs ,then you get high .
If instead the vapor is exhalled violently -like smoke - then ,yes,it can be visually satisfying,but
claiming that is not counterproductive faces few science facts against.
Claiming otherwise aka stating the physics behind it,really makes someone a " dictator"?
I tried to help by giving some info-not made up in my mind .
That's your way of contributing ?

Brother,I really do not know you,I do not have a problem with you or your opinion,
neither I've criticised you -giving you the right to do the same-in any way.
Neither I "bashed" about cloud chasing.
Please do me a small favour and choose more carefully which words you 're using.
Thank you.

This is exactly what Im talking about. That glass of water statement is a horribly melodramatic analogy and indicative of bashing, the very thing youre denying that youre doing. And who said that Im "only" doing it to create clouds and not get high? Nice straw man argument there. And i believe youre the one missing out on science--The other reason I enjoy big clouds is the high temp effects you get from it, which i prefer over low temp effects brought about by low temp, whispy cloud style of vaping . And i have a better analogy for you...Saying that blowing out mega clouds is wasteful is like saying that someone eating an orange is being wasteful because they didnt eat the peel. Its like, ok, I guess youre technically correct on some level, but boy, way to be a party pooper. lol

 

[stardustsailor]

This is exactly what Im talking about. That glass of water statement is a horriblly melodramatic analogy. I have a better one for you...Saying that blowing out mega clouds is wasteful is like saying that someone eating an orange is being wasteful because they didnt eat the peel. Its like, ok, I guess youre technically correct on some level, but boy, way to be a party pooper. lol

Personally I like exhalling big clouds -most of times.

Science can be a party pooper lots of times.
Someone that knows some few things about science ,yes ,can be a party pooper.
Still ,others seem unable to evolve into a better state of " being " .
Nobody's perfect ,brother.

Cheers.

 

[Danksta]

Hey guys if you take a high temp hit followed by a low temp hit the modulation from the low temp hit will get you higher. Clouds and whispy hits both have a place. Variety is the spice of life folks.

...you will feel a lot more chill too...

 

[stardustsailor]

Hey guys if you take a high temp hit followed by a low temp hit the modulation from the low temp hit will get you higher. Clouds and whispy hits both have a place. Variety is the spice of life folks.

...you will feel a lot more chill too...

Words of wisdom.

 

[Alexis]

Why would conduction result in the loss of actives? Wouldn’t it just vapourize what is in contact with the walls?

I cant help but feel that the loss would occur while you are not inhaling, to at least some extent. I mean hot contact will have an effect, and i think that there is a time to strike the hammer.
I mean if you left a load in a conduction vape for a while without drawing, the naterial would gradually darken and be spent, without you necessarily seeing vapor, and without there being any sort of safety deposit box to hold the actives until you are ready to inhale them.

I haven't given this any thought to be honest, just a thought or more like an assumption.
I only ever had one conduction vaporizer bought in 1999- the original Master Blaster. I think you would see vapour from leaving the material on top of the plate, but not what you would see if you were inhaling. And yet the load would get spent and darkened and there would be nothing to inhale to get you hi, it was literally like it just disappeared into thin air.

I know you have lots of experience with vaporizing however, and can be clearer and more objective about it than myself, so Im not saying I am correct and I keep my mind open to all ideas and views.

 

[metaknight]

I THINK cloud chasers see visible clouds as the ability of the vaporizer to produce.

if I'm hitting something on 400, but there is no visible exhale, there is something wrong with the vape, the technique, or its just a bullshit vape

I used to be one of those people who held in the hit until it was ghost and still do when I vape in public around others, but I don't feel it does much for my over all state, besides mixing in a little light-headedness in the buzz

a few seconds is all it takes...unless I'm wrong?

but I don't see how anyone could refute the mighty or the solo' s ability to produce vapor correctly

The DV can be a little different, because it's not automated and producing no clouds is ALL user and/or their selection of torch

I agree with this completely. I have some strains that will not produce much visible clouds, but the effects say otherwise...

And yeah the vapor is absorbed almost immediately, within the first 3 seconds.

It's fun to blow clouds sometimes though...

I'm what you would call a big waster. I don't save any of my ABV, I don't save any of my cleaned glass or vaporizer's honey, I basically treat weed like I would tobacco. This is because I feel like it's all "dirty" stuff, byproducts. It doesn't give as clean of a high as the good stuff would, and makes me feel groggy. So I've given up trying to save it.

 

[pakalolo]

The topic is the VapCap. (Have I mentioned I love my VapCap?) Please stick to it.

The discussion about clouds and efficiency is always interesting and I think we have a few threads along those lines. If you want to continue, feel welcome to find one of them or start a new one. I'm looking at you, @stardustsailor , @mccringleberry, @Alexis, et al. Also, if you do continue discussing this elsewhere, please be nice to one another. Don't look down on someone else's preference. You can explain why you don't agree without disparaging anything.

 

[metaknight]

Anyways. I've been trying to get a torch lighter for my M, but it seems like that is a hard thing to buy at physical stores. I've located a couple of stores that I can look for torch lighters but I'm assuming the price is going to be high because they are in headshops.

I've been trying the feathering method, it's really harsh compared to just riding the carb! But man does it produce vapor

 

[Winegums]

I cant help but feel that the loss would occur while you are not inhaling, to at least some extent. I mean hot contact will have an effect, and i think that there is a time to strike the hammer.
I mean if you left a load in a conduction vape for a while without drawing, the naterial would gradually darken and be spent, without you necessarily seeing vapor, and without there being any sort of safety deposit box to hold the actives until you are ready to inhale them.

I haven't given this any thought to be honest, just a thought or more like an assumption.
I only ever had one conduction vaporizer bought in 1999- the original Master Blaster. I think you would see vapour from leaving the material on top of the plate, but not what you would see if you were inhaling. And yet the load would get spent and darkened and there would be nothing to inhale to get you hi, it was literally like it just disappeared into thin air.

I know you have lots of experience with vaporizing however, and can be clearer and more objective about it than myself, so Im not saying I am correct and I keep my mind open to all ideas and views.

Interesting, I’ve noticed that my Mighty will “cook” a load even if I don’t hit it and that the cooling unit will be significantly stickier inside. So my thought is that the goodies are vapourizing and recondensing on the nearest cool surface. Thus they wouldn’t be available for vaping unless you reclaim them with solvent or scraping.

I agree that one should vape while the cap is hot and not let the material go through a heat cycle without being hit.

 

[WoodVillain]

Anyways. I've been trying to get a torch lighter for my M, but it seems like that is a hard thing to buy at physical stores. I've located a couple of stores that I can look for torch lighters but I'm assuming the price is going to be high because they are in headshops.

I've been trying the feathering method, it's really harsh compared to just riding the carb! But man does it produce vapor

Do you have a "Total Wine" store near you? Or cigar stores?

I got my first triple torch, the vertigo cyclone, from Total wine and more for $9.99. They were located in the cigar humidor section.

I also tried a couple headshops first... But their selection was gimicky, bullet shaped torches, girls with boobs showing, flashing lights on them etc... One shop told me they stopped carrying the more expensive name brand torches because they failed just as much as the cheap gimicky ones...

 

[shredder]

My Opinion:
Pipes Heaters are an absolute necessity. The heat cycle is completely perfect and perfectly consistent each and every time. Lighters work and that’s a plus for hard times. But Pipes Portside made it possible while riding in a open air boat at 45 mph with a temperature in the 40’s F, and it was raining. Cannot do that with a lighter.......lol.

I have made numerous stems for my Dynavap’s.....some lined with stainless some without. Various woods. Still kept looking for the ultimate stem. Everything had a taste or it was too hot/dry making me have to drink a lot of fluids to quench the dry throat.

Then I remembered my favorite tobacco pipe of days gone by. It was special because it made the smoke cool, clean, and tasty. It was made from Meerschaum. Guess what? The Dynavap is exactly 8mm in diameter, which is the same diameter as a normal cigarette. So any normal size cigarette holder will hold the Dynavap. I have been using the Nash Meerschaum Cigarette Holder with amazing results. No more dry throat. It’s wonderful. Check out Meerschaum it’s the best yet. The flavor is exquisite.

http://www.thesmokingstore.com/nash-meerschaum-cigarette-holder/

I'm afraid my meerschaum cigarrette holder, that I bought from this site, is plastic and not meerschaum. I figured the mouth piece would be plastic, but not the stem. I was wrong. And it screws in half and the mouth piece screws on with plastic couplings. And although I could sand it to fit, the vc tip doesn't fit in this holder thingy. I bought the six inch one, big fail.

Maybe I'll look on eBay for Hunter S Thompson's old ciggarrett holder.

 

[Chose]

It is true any vapour that is visibly exhausted is a waste
But from many years of combusting the cloud tricks your mind in to wow what a massive hit it's sociological
I still do this myself after Severn years if vaping
I know it's a waste but I love them clouds
But you can save a lot of bud if you stop chasing that cloud
And be more stealthy but I love them big smokey hits
It caps my craving to combust
But it is wasteful for sure
I've an addictive nature witch doesn't help
Fine wispy hits will get the job done but my eyes want Armageddon nuke blasts
Don't know why can't help it

 

[stark1]

I'm afraid my meerschaum cigarrette holder, that I bought from this site, is plastic and not meerschaum. I figured the mouth piece would be plastic, but not the stem. I was wrong. And it screws in half and the mouth piece screws on with plastic couplings. And although I could sand it to fit, the vc tip doesn't fit in this holder thingy. I bought the six inch one, big fail.

Maybe I'll look on eBay for Hunter S Thompson's old ciggarrett holder.

Sorry to hear that, Bro @shredder! Plastic?

Hope mine is not going to be "fake" meerschaum plastic, as well.

Time will tell. Put tongue to holder, it held.

 

[Summer]

Now don't go attacking me as I'm not meaning to be sacrilegious, but I personally wish that lighters could be discussed in the dedicated vc lighter thread. The posts seem to be increasing as of late & mudding up the thread. I have no interest in lighters anymore as I have what I need/want &, frankly, since I got @Pipes IH, I haven't picked up a lighter since the end of August. Likewise, the IH belongs in that respective thread. What is nice to post on this thread are pics & videos of lighters & IHs w/ vcs. Just my

 

[pakalolo]

Now don't go attacking me as I'm not meaning to be sacrilegious, but I personally wish that lighters could be discussed in the dedicated vc lighter thread. The posts seem to be increasing as of late & mudding up the thread. I have no interest in lighters anymore as I have what I need/want &, frankly, since I got @Pipes IH, I haven't picked up a lighter since the end of August. Likewise, the IH belongs in that thread. What is nice to post on this thread are pics & videos of lighters & IHs w/ vcs. Just my

No one will attack you if you report the thread when it veers off-topic instead of posting in the thread about it. You are correct about lighter discussion belonging elsewhere.

 

[WoodVillain]

No one will attack you if you report the thread when it veers off-topic instead of posting in the thread about it. You are correct about lighter discussion belonging elsewhere.

But aren't lighters and the induction heaters, accessories for, and directly relating to the VC?

You cant use a vapcap without a heating source.

I read loads of threads here... Nearly all threads talk about accessories for the vapes in said threads. Aftermarket and direct from manufacture. Which work best, where to buy them etc...

I'm definitely not arguing with you, just asking for clarification... Are we not suppose to talk about accessories for the vapes?

 

[stark1]

Light-en up, folks. Seems like there's a fine thin line defining subject/"off topic"-- seems to me like the ball tis in the Mods court.....

Let's all get along, & play ball. Now, were's that damn lighter?

 

[Kalessin]

But aren't lighters and the induction heaters, accessories for, and directly relating to the VC?

You cant use a vapcap without a heating source.

I read loads of threads here... Nearly all threads talk about accessories for the vapes in said threads. Aftermarket and direct from manufacture. Which work best, where to buy them etc...

I'm definitely not arguing with you, just asking for clarification... Are we not suppose to talk about accessories for the vapes?

My take on it was always that accessories specifically for the vape, like o-rings and screens, are up for conversation on the main device thread but separate products like torches and butane are not although it's generally overlooked.

 

[Summer]

But aren't lighters and the induction heaters, accessories for, and directly relating to the VC?

You cant use a vapcap without a heating source.

I read loads of threads here... Nearly all threads talk about accessories for the vapes in said threads. Aftermarket and direct from manufacture. Which work best, where to buy them etc...

I'm definitely not arguing with you, just asking for clarification... Are we not suppose to talk about accessories for the vapes?

WV, permit me to say that, yes, of course they are related 'cause as you said, "You can't use a vapcap without a heating source." But unlike other threads, lighters & IH are discussions unto themselves. It's like separate threads for a vape & a thread for the glassware to use with it; not everyone who uses the vape cares about using it through water. 3 different threads lighten up this thread. For me, it's much more comfortable reading & following. 3 topics going on at once, entwined. makes my eyes cross.

Edited to add: I was just over at the lighter thread & a newbie just posted that he ordered an M & is now over there looking for recommendations. If these 3 topics were combined, it would make it very difficult for people who want to learn about this vape to make sense of it all if posts dart between the device & heating utensils. And it makes sense, the dedicated threads, 'cause no one's gonna go through 840 pages to try to find lighter posts when you can go directly to its' own thread.

@stark1, nobody's fighting. We are lightened up.