Dynavap VapCap

[shredder]

Same here, single jet = longer heat up time = bigger hit.

Same for me except I'm more prone to overheating with a single. I'm loving the tron double though. It seems to have indeal spacing on the flames.

I find that I get the easiest pull with a larger diameter mouthpiece like a bong. The larger surface area allows me to put more PSI on the opposite end.

I agree, and love my water tools, but are other variables as well. Like the herb, it's moisture level. The torch/ heater placement and so on.

It took me a while for every thing to come together. I got frustrated with over heating and put it down more than once. But once you get it, your technique clicks with the cap, and it's game on, lol.

 

[Cowputer]

On a side note I broke my OG condenser yesterday while cleaning! Capless, yet again!

The OG can still be used without the condenser but will quickly get the body dirty.

Dynavap does have the condensers listed on their site 2 for $5 having, extra glass parts is always better then not.

 

[ataxian]

I find that I get the easiest pull with a larger diameter mouthpiece like a bong. The larger surface area allows me to put more PSI on the opposite end.

Whatever your option I'm sure it work's!

I hated BonG's and stayed with joints! (paper)
My friend's in the 70's were crazy about JAMAICA? (SOCIAL ACCEPTANCE)
I thought HAWAII and Northern CALIFORNIA had better CANNABIS. (POV)
My flag has a BEAR on it!

2012 water pipes were the fashion. (BEFORE I guess?)
Smaller mouthpiece's work best for me? (don't make market decisions on my remark's)
Large holes are fine for some?

The "M" makes sense to me so I like it!

If a mouth piece is small or detached I prefer it!

Other's may have a different requirement?

Glass is the only material that conform's? (4 H2O path)
I looked at other material's however taste weird?

 

[DataRocks]

Full gallery:
https://imgur.com/a/TOIKQ#ngHsHzl
Still working on the small issues of the print...

 

[asdf420]

I have a relatively big single flame torch. can leave it on freestanding

Soo... maybe the mouthpiece isn't what makes the difference, then more air volume in the piece makes it easier to suck somehow? haha

I find blocking my nose by squeezing it allows me to pull more. i pulled out so much out of this high cbd mid thc weed... without really heating past the 2nd click and i got this huge hit, dense cloud 1st time... it was a fairly soft flame from my torch heating mid/lower cap

but ugh maybe pulling so hard gave me a headache

 

[Summer]

@DataRocks, I like!


@Winegums, it's heartening to hear that even you combust ... as misery loves company. Somehow I thought that you would have been close to @Squiby's record of having never combusted.


@asdf420, as I hate to hear about you not thoroughly enjoying your vc, just a thought: As you're having such a difficult time with the draw, maybe you would do better with a larger carb hole as you wouldn't have to pull hard.

See my post here:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/custom-carbless-vapcap-ti-stems.25324/page-8#post-1191435

My lung capacity stinks so I only draw for about 10 or a few seconds more. Even for that short amount of time, if there is not enough air intake, the draw is too hard for me.

You can always have Dynavap, Winegums, phattpiggie, Eds TnT or stardustsailor make you a custom body for your M condenser w/ a larger carb or even contact Dynavap & ask if they would be able to enlarge the carb hole for you for a nominal charge.


@stark1, am I correct in assuming by the look on the cat's face that you are not happy with the ceramic donut? I also assume that since the vc isn't touching the sides of the donut, you're just getting direct heating on the top of the cap so maybe you're not getting sufficient or even heating throughout the tip like the IH? I'm assuming, like w/ the IH, you have to stir. Boy, did I just 'assume' alot, & you know what that does. With the looping of the kanthal in an rda, both the sides & the top of the cap are touching the wire so the cap is being heated evenly throughout.


Lastly, can anyone tell me in simplistic terms what the lure of using zirconium metal for a vc is? I did see a post yesterday(?) mentioning that it doesn't get hot. Terminology-wise, isn't it zirconium & not zirconia we are talking about? Thanks.

 

[stardustsailor]

[COLOR=#ffffff]Lastly[/COLOR], can anyone tell me in simplistic terms what the lure of using zirconium metal for a vc is? I did see a post yesterday(?) mentioning that it doesn't get hot. Terminology-wise, isn't it zirconium & not zirconia we are talking about? Thanks.

Zirconium is a metal .
Zirconia is called the dioxide of the metal ,like "Alumina" ,"Titania" ,"Beryllia" and more , which are used as the first material in manufacturing ceramics ,in powder form (initially ) .


Those ceramics are notorious for micro-cracking and releasing ceramic dust particles,
when heated and cooled as a part of vaporising device .Not a good idea to use ceramics on a vaporiser.Especially when those ceramics are subject to mechanical wear and stress .
Titanium remains one of the best material -if not the best altogether-for use in vaporising devices.
Inert-lightweight-strong & durable- great looks - biocompatible- low heat conduction .
Not many other materials ,gather so many wished characteristics ,I'm afraid.

 

[lookhigh]

No need to be afraid @stardustsailor , its Christmas.

 

[Ricardo]

@Ricardo weird. Can you get any clouds just using the device directly? (I can, just not as good) Maybe the seal isn't tight enough? herb quality?

I generally get great clouds using either thd M or Omni native.... and my heating technique hasn't changed. The seal seems good to me (no bubbles when I experimented by inserting the VapCap cold and sucked hard). I even get clouds when I abort the attempt and draw directly on the M. I think there's too much resistance, not enough airflow. Maybe I should try the tip-filing hack, or leave the air-hole uncovered..... Won't get much time for R & D over the next couple days though

 

[Summer]

@Ricardo, do try the tip filing hack. I haven't done it yet, but I swapped my ti-tip over to the M & I get a noticeable increase in air flow. Maybe I would get the same w/ the filing hack but can't speak to this yet.


@stardustsailor, I saw the dental uses for (ceramic) zirconia or it may be, I saw the ceramic dental uses for zirconia. That's why I thought the zirconium solid metal terminology was more correct. So if it lends itself to cracking & releasing dust particles, do you know off hand if it is really safe for dental use. I didn't investigate when I googled, just perused & did see that some had asked it's practically & longevity for implants.

I'm quite happy with titanium for it's weightlessness & never noticed my Omni getting hot, I think I would have noticed if it did.


& yes, I agree with you, @ataxian: ▼▼▼

Whatever your option I'm sure it work's!

 

[Ricardo]

Boy, did I just 'assume' alot, & you know what that does.

 

[Summer]

@Ricardo That scene was just brilliant! I guess this is where nostalgia kicks in, huh?

 

[stardustsailor]

@Ricardo, do try the tip filing hack. I haven't done it yet, but I swapped my ti-tip over to the M & I get a noticeable increase in air flow. Maybe I would get the same w/ the filing hack but can't speak to this yet.


@stardustsailor, I saw the dental uses for (ceramic) zirconia or it may be, I saw the ceramic dental uses for zirconia. That's why I thought the zirconium solid metal terminology was more correct. So if it lends itself to cracking & releasing dust particles, do you know off hand if it is really safe for dental use. I didn't investigate when I googled, just perused & did see that some had asked it's practically & longevity for implants.

Zirconia is considered to be one of the most hard ceramics.
That's why is used in dental implants
(as the "outer tooth" and not the implant -screw that goes inside the jaw bone ).
A hard ceramic also is porcelain ,like zirconia .
Still ,both can crack ,under certain types of stress .
They may be hard ,but they are also very brittle at the same time.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12001258

https://books.google.gr/books?id=6I9YTABxdYMC&pg=PA56&lpg=PA56&dq=cracking+of+ceramic+materials+in+rda&source=bl&ots=yDUy3Pgp0b&sig=ZbSnQLUFt62WKEj-5m9C_s4_Ing&hl=el&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjMroLS1aLYAhVQalAKHXgOCOkQ6AEIQjAG#v=onepage&q=cracking of ceramic materials in rda&f=false

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/b...er-of-ceramic-heating-elements-in-vapes.8573/

Also to be noted ,
if one drops the VC from her/his hands ,bye-bye zirconia stem and/or tip .
cheers.

 

[Summer]

Thanks, @stardustsailor --- especially for keeping it short & simple. But no,
zirconia implants are also being used along with screws. Google zirconia dental implants/images & you'll see. The pics are a little too unappetizing to post.

Anyway, apologies to all for going OT.

 

[Dynalowrider]

"Mele Kalikimaka me ka hauʻoli makahiki hou"

This goes out to everyone on here. Thank you folks for helping me get by with getting old. I appreciate your kindness and camaraderie, and friendship. Doc

For you without a "Funk and Wagnall", "Merry Christmas and Happy New Year"

 

[Summer]

@Dynalowrider, anyone who knows what Funk & Wagnall's means & the competition between the Americana, Brittanica & World Book enclyopedias back in the day, is getting old. I remember like it was yesterday.

A Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you, too, & all my fellow vc enthusiasts.

 

[Diggy Smalls]

I'm about to wake up my dynavap for a wake and bake sesh. Got some fresh rosin I'll toss on some freshly ground salad.

 

[stark1]

"Mele Kalikimaka me ka hauʻoli makahiki hou"

This goes out to everyone on here. Thank you folks for helping me get by with getting old. I appreciate your kindness and camaraderie, and friendship. Doc

For you without a "Funk and Wagnall", "Merry Christmas and Happy New Year"

Maui Zowie, Baby! Canna Gold, now.

From us howlies. & Hippy New Year, to ye ole folks!

K


Approaching aphelion, Captain. We are safe, Icarus!

 

[invertedisdead]

Zirconium is a metal .
Zirconia is called the dioxide of the metal ,like "Alumina" ,"Titania" ,"Beryllia" and more , which are used as the first material in manufacturing ceramics ,in powder form (initially ) .


Those ceramics are notorious for micro-cracking and releasing ceramic dust particles,
when heated and cooled as a part of vaporising device .Not a good idea to use ceramics on a vaporiser.Especially when those ceramics are subject to mechanical wear and stress .
Titanium remains one of the best material -if not the best altogether-for use in vaporising devices.
Inert-lightweight-strong & durable- great looks - biocompatible- low heat conduction .
Not many other materials ,gather so many wished characteristics ,I'm afraid.

Well I respectfully disagree with this post. Technical ceramics like Zirconia have extremely low thermal conductivity which allows them to STAY COOL. This makes them a fantastic material for vaporizer design in places such as heater housings and mouthpieces. Zirconia is called "ceramic steel." In fact, these technical ceramics are already being used in high end vaporizers. Zirconia mouthpieces, Alumina heater crucibles (which is the same composition as Sapphire, just structured differently) Silicon Carbide concentrate dishes, etc.

As far as dust particles, maybe during machining but once sintered... many of these technical ceramics are specifically designed for extreme mechanical wear and stress, often as high performance filtration! Or space ship parts. Or high end laser imaging systems.

Our vaporizers aren't getting anywhere near the fail point of these ceramics, especially as a mouthpiece! In fact, I would argue that titanium is actually worse for heat cycling considering the dioxides produced. Not as dangerous as the nanoparticle titanium dioxide being put in food or sunscreen, but not something I want. Now I realize these vapcaps aren't getting hot enough to produce TiO2, but they also wouldn't be getting hot enough for these ceramic to really fail either.

I have multiple Grade 2 Titanium vaporizers, so I am a fan of the material. However Titanium biocompatability has absolutely been under more scrutiny lately in medical operations! In fact, it is even being replaced BY Zirconia in dental and surgical implants!

As an amateur vaporizer designer these technical ceramics are very appealing. They make many designs possible which would not be otherwise so.

 

[Marlon Rando]

@Diggy Smalls, yea my Girlfriend and I doing similar ritual however add to this our kitchen turns into a mini production factory this time of year, baking cakes, assorted cookies, pastries and some sweet filled crepes for our family/friends and neighbors. We have conditioned them to drool when the mixer goes on

 

[Ricardo]

This goes out to everyone on here. Thank you folks for helping me get by with getting old. I appreciate your kindness and camaraderie, and friendship. Doc

So, where do we all sign up for the Best Exotic VAPCAP Hotel?

 

[stark1]

Hotel VapCap? LOL

 

[Winegums]

@Winegums, it's heartening to hear that even you combust ... as misery loves company. Somehow I thought that you would have been close to @Squiby's record of having never combusted.

I tend to become absent minded while watching videos and miss the click. I also like to heat at the bottom of the cap with a single which is riding the edge of combustion as it is. I think this is my third time combusting which is pretty good considering how hot I like to run my Vapcaps.

 

[Summer]

@Winegums, you mean you miss the cool-down click? 'Cause that's the one I always get absent-minded about. I pay attention when heating & then I'm so busy with the toke & how good the hit is that I forget to listen for the cool-down click & start to re-heat before it happens & then BAM! I've combusted. Too many times than I should have.

I gotta say that I can't believe how these vcs take a lickin' & on keep on tickin'. It's amazing.

 

[hinglemccringleberry]

Hotel VapCap? LOL

You can check out any time you like but you can never leave!