412lou

New Member
I guess it's the humidifying that makes me prefer water. I DO love flavor, but comfort and less throat irritation seem more important. I often take my first hit or 2 off a VC direct to get flavor before I drop it on my glass piece...

Sittin here watching TV and giggling. Just lovin it...

Oops

Uhhhh... What piece? I didn't post anything.

Here's one. Is this OK? ;)
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Oh, wait, I get it. You meant that might be why I'm not getting flavor. Good point, but even like in this pic much flavor is lost for me. And the deeper the water the more water conditioning...
That piece requires a good amount of water .
 
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Vaporware

Well-Known Member
Do y'all prefer to exhale more quickly and get two draws per heat cycle or to take your time and just do one?

I always mouth pull anymore and I mostly do that three to five times as one draw and hold it, sometimes I hear the cooling click before exhaling.

The heat cycle seems to short to get more than one for me...if I try to do that I have to exhale quickly and I feel like I’m wasting what I just inhaled, so at most I might breathe out a little and then back in to finish it if I messed up somehow and ran out of space.

Maybe I should consider trying a few small draws per cycle (not mouth pulls with a single large inhalation at the end, but 2 or more individual breaths), but I’m not sure how I’d work that...

Does anyone find that to be more effective or enjoyable?

Maybe I’m just so used to a long, slow draw that I can easily go click to click while some can’t?

Edit:

That piece requires a good amount of water .

Hey, just so you don’t run into trouble with the mods here, they ask us not to make two posts in a row. Instead they would like us to edit our existing post like I’m doing now, as long as it’s within the timeframe we can edit them (6 hours I think? There’s an edit link there for as long as you can edit it anyway).

If I want to quote someone in an edit, I hit reply, copy the quote, then hit edit and paste it into my post. I hope that helps. :)
 
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-dab8-

Dyna-saur
I guess I’m more of the multiple hit per click type. More a throwback to my glass pipe days, I don’t like to cough, so I would take a bunch of little hits rather than one big one.

Is it more efficient? Probably not. Once it’s heated, the herb is being vaporized whether or not you pull on it, so inbetween draws you might be vaporizing good stuff that then has time to recondense before you get to it.

Hmmm... unless... the lower pressure during the draw increases the volitility of the desirable substances which are otherwise not as volitile? But seems like a stretch.
 

doug@futo

Owner @ Futo
Accessory Maker
@doug@futo
Sure here are a couple of pics, love to share my self made things for the vapcap have also made a self made vapcap stand from leather.

It is not as good as your craft compared :) but i have made this without any tools except of sandpaper and a stanley knife it does not look bad for that.

You can see that i have used the vapcap m stash that i have a little bit cut off, for the herb compartment. The material is micro cork is very heat resistend and very light also no water goes in the cork ist like a lotus effect on the surface :)

To made it i have used 2 layers of 10 mm thick cork plate and have put together with wood nails, on the first picture you can see this well these brighter points on the edge in the middle and at the bottom. Have also a 2 magnets attached to the lid and stash so they not turn so easy open.



@Prophecy this is pretty awesome.. I've used everything from ebony to stabilized mushrooms to make a dugout, never considered cork. cool concept
 

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
Hmmm... unless... the lower pressure during the draw increases the volitility of the desirable substances which are otherwise not as volitile? But seems like a stretch.
I don't think that's a stretch at all. I think the pressure drop plays a definite role with the vapcap. The testing I've done with other vapes seems to indicate as much, so it seems logical to me that pressure plays a role here given the vapcap's design.

I'm with you on the smaller/multiple hits thing. My shitty lungs can't take big hits anymore. :disgust:

:peace:
 

Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
Nice!
it looks so tiny, i bought a kit found on a youtube video (i didn't thought about @Pipes' barebone option, it will be bigger...
)
Does anybody know where i could find a piece of glass like the one @Pipes insert in the heating coil?

Smaller than I was expecting as well, but I'm very happy about that. Gives me more options.
This is just the heater section. No batteries or anything. Plugs right into a power adapter.

I'm happy with how small it is.
 

Dynalowrider

Well-Known Member
For those making containers, (stash etc.) for the VC. How about a long tube for personal straws? Plastic straws are floating in our oceans, because we are to lazy to get our upper lip wet. Want a straw, carry your own.
I need a multi use straw container. OUTLAW PLASTIC STRAWS.
I know I sound like a tree-hugger, but folks, WE ARE SHITTING IN OUR OWN BACK YARD. It is NOT going to evaporate. You hate plastic in the vapor path, how about plastic in your fish?

Mod note: Vapcap reference: "You hate plastic in the vapor path"
Just maintaining topic. Doc
 

Dynalowrider

Well-Known Member
But I'm not going to discard a "Silo".
People, your children will be born in a garbage dump. It may be to late.
If it takes a bit of plastic to stop plastic trash, so be it.
I live in Texas. If you say something against Texas they get on you, but those same people throw trash out on the road. Where is your pride? I'm not here to pick up after you, and neither is anyone else.
Ok, I'm off my soap box. QUIT LITTERING. It's your planet. Doc
 

Squiby

Well-Known Member
I guess I’m more of the multiple hit per click type. More a throwback to my glass pipe days, I don’t like to cough, so I would take a bunch of little hits rather than one big one.

I'm with you on the smaller/multiple hits thing. My shitty lungs can't take big hits anymore. :disgust:

I too take small hits. Always mouthpulls. I can get 3 small mouthpull puffs with one good inhale x 2, per heat cycle. Or, more frequently, I take a few mouthpulls, inhale and then exhale as I momentarily reheat the cap to sustain the dip and sip technique.

I don't hold the vapor in like we did with joints a way back when. I still get high and I'm not worried about getting every little bit from my bud that I can. I'm happy to vape a bit more bud if I can prevent irritation and cough.
 

stark1

Lonesome Planet
But I'm not going to discard a "Silo".
People, your children will be born in a garbage dump. It may be to late.
If it takes a bit of plastic to stop plastic trash, so be it.
I live in Texas. If you say something against Texas they get on you, but those same people throw trash out on the road. Where is your pride? I'm not here to pick up after you, and neither is anyone else.
Ok, I'm off my soap box. QUIT LITTERING. It's your planet. Doc



Try telling that to the millions of new born spawn today to litter the choking planet with their
Consumption, and eventual, toxic waste, preacher Doc. :freak:

Not to mention the encroaching deserts, soon the temperate latitudes will be in Gander
In this “fake climate change”.

Envision the soon to come clean “Water Wars” with states like Cali and Aridzona, Nevada, and cities like
Sin City and Lost Angels duking it out.

Not to mention the Muddle East...

Good news is, with all the carbon dioxide, the earth will soon have a Renaissance of Green.

After mankind has extinguished itself.

Then the cycle begins anew. :evil:

Smoke on, toke on, my friend. :cheers:
 

-dab8-

Dyna-saur
I get that straws are a big deal, but it seems weird that THAT is where we have decided the real issue is. There was a funny picture I’ll have to try to find, of a sign in Starbucks saying “no straws”, next to individually plastic wrapped napkins and condiments.

Anything is better than nothing, but making straws the enemy so we can feel like we are doing something while not actually doing much at all, doesn’t seem right.

Wow, even better. Starbucks is wrapping paper straws individually in plastic.

Thank goodness there aren’t plastic pieces on vapcaps. I love that they are built to last. See? On topic. Sort of.
 

beyond6strings

Just another traveller in the Cannaverse
https://www.green-flower.com/articles/95/best-way-to-inhale-cannabis-2016-3

If you'd like a synopsis of this and not read it here tis.

You don't need to hold vapor or smoke in your lungs-the transfer of cannabinoids to the lungs happens in milliseconds. The article points out that huge hits where some vapor or smoke doesn't make it to the lungs is wasted as it has to get by the trachea to have an affect.

What you 'should' do to get the most of your herb is make sure you use fresh air at the end of each toke as a 'plunger' to insure all the vapor gets into your lungs and isn't hung up on the trachea.
 

Kurtdigglur

Long draws
https://www.green-flower.com/articles/95/best-way-to-inhale-cannabis-2016-3

If you'd like a synopsis of this and not read it here tis.

You don't need to hold vapor or smoke in your lungs-the transfer of cannabinoids to the lungs happens in milliseconds. The article points out that huge hits where some vapor or smoke doesn't make it to the lungs is wasted as it has to get by the trachea to have an affect.

What you 'should' do to get the most of your herb is make sure you use fresh air at the end of each toke as a 'plunger' to insure all the vapor gets into your lungs and isn't hung up on the trachea.

Dr. Sulak talks about the secret breath in an article on healer.com. Sounds just as you described here. That oxygen at the end is a big help in getting more out of your product.
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
you can save money on rezblock
Just put a few drops of lemon juice in clean water with clean bong
Does the same job
Bzzzzzzzzzz! Uh, no, it doesn't, but thanks for playing. First, it's not RezBlock, it is Cranberry Extract from Botanic Choice, virtually the same thing (but WAY cheaper). Second lemon juice is missing the components that actually make the glass resistant to reclaim. It seems to be the bio-slipperiness of the cranberry (why it helps UTIs) that is the main factor, but there are others.

There is a brilliant thread about it here. Folks made a serious effort to find the best agent to add to water to help it keep glass clean. It was determined over time that RezBlock really did work very well but is quite expensive. On page 28 or so the reveal occurs when we see that @Vitolo brings CE and RezBlock to a chemist who analyzes them and finds that they are virtually identical, with a slight difference in the concentration of the cranberry.

I have been a CE user ever since. I have mixed feelings about adding citric acid to the mix to make the water growth free for longer, as I don't use a lot water so it gets stinky and I replace it every day anyway.
 

FabulatorPoeta

Where has the time gone?
https://www.green-flower.com/articles/95/best-way-to-inhale-cannabis-2016-3

If you'd like a synopsis of this and not read it here tis.

You don't need to hold vapor or smoke in your lungs-the transfer of cannabinoids to the lungs happens in milliseconds. The article points out that huge hits where some vapor or smoke doesn't make it to the lungs is wasted as it has to get by the trachea to have an affect.

What you 'should' do to get the most of your herb is make sure you use fresh air at the end of each toke as a 'plunger' to insure all the vapor gets into your lungs and isn't hung up on the trachea.

Thank you for sharing this @beyond6strings. Music to our lungs;).
 

Ricardo

Well-Known Member
This afternoon I got high on Mango in my trusty old DaVinci Ascent using a bit more than usual for me, but no more than a full cap for sure. Sometimes I like a longer, more mellow session and play around stepping up temperatures. Today I did 157, 160, 180, 195, 205°C. Lovely long session - maybe 10mins , great vibe. Now I've just used that ABV in the NonaVong heated in the pseudo dental standard Chinese IH through the 'Lil Chinese Bubbler :D Got three super milky rips and my mind is blown :rockon:
 

paytonpenn

Level 30 Nature/Healer
Well its been a while since I last stopped by here, I think a 1000 pages were added. I suppose I knew this was becoming a popular unit.

If anyone has a Vapolution you may find this video interesting. Or if you were looking for a new desktop.

 
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