Dynavap VapCap

[kurt6652]

Salutations HackerMan,



Actually i've got a question on my mind and i gather you and other fellow peers may be in a suitable position to answer it. So here it goes: what's the absolute possible minimal weight of metal present in a DynaVap VapCap device which can also interact with inductive power by converting part of it as a secondary IH (wireless) energy source? E.G. what model would one want to suggest in order to reduce susceptor weight to the minimal amount practically required for 1 single toke, with next-to-zero "parasitic" losses from structural metal, for example, etc.??

Now imagine if the susceptor's alloy behaves like some "intelligent" metal capable of self-regulating itself, by virtue of the "Curie effect"...



In other words, a metal turning magnetically "transparent" to the IH field once energized to its target Curie temperature, set by metalurgical formulation (possibly of the NiFe type), etc...

Good day, have fun!!

Let me hit my omni, and I will try to grasp it.

 

[ClearBlueLou]

Salutations HackerMan,



Actually i've got a question on my mind and i gather you and other fellow peers may be in a suitable position to answer it. So here it goes: what's the absolute possible minimal weight of metal present in a DynaVap VapCap device which can also interact with inductive power by converting part of it as a secondary IH (wireless) energy source? E.G. what model would one want to suggest in order to reduce susceptor weight to the minimal amount practically required for 1 single toke, with next-to-zero "parasitic" losses from structural metal, for example, etc.??

Now imagine if the susceptor's alloy behaves like some "intelligent" metal capable of self-regulating itself, by virtue of the "Curie effect"...



In other words, a metal turning magnetically "transparent" to the IH field once energized to its target Curie temperature, set by metalurgical formulation (possibly of the NiFe type), etc...

Good day, have fun!!

That work has been done. The answer is: The Cap, from DynaVap.

 

[Winegums]

That work has been done. The answer is: The Cap, from DynaVap.

No?

What he's asking is can there be a thin layer of special foil added to the cap or make up part of the cap that will stop induction heating at a certain temperature.

 

[stark1]

Crap.
Didn’t realize I would be running into a surprise quiz in the thread tonite.

Thought I wuz dun with higher edjumacation.

 

[ClearBlueLou]

Not the first time I’ve misunderstood, wont be the last, but, apologies to the asker

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations WineGums,

What he's asking is can there be a thin layer of special foil added to the cap or make up part of the cap that will stop induction heating at a certain temperature.

Well, not exactly as i'd prefer 1 mm thick layers (or some cladding), but this could be next. At this instant i'm only asking which DynaVap model has the lightest susceptor-like metal inside (for IH mode)...

The thing is i've already suggested a method to supply 1 toke using only 0.75 g of stainless-steel submitted to a hundred Watts (or 2?) and i happen to vaguely recall that the DynaVap "cap" is supposed to range around 0.8 g, if i'm not mistaking. Correct?? Looking at pictures it appears its contact-surface participating directly to the heat exchanging process, is located above a helix channel, and hence it doesn't represent the device's total energy budget: in other words there's power wasted in between a spiral's channels and hence that's why your wands tend to get hot, i presume...



Anyone contemplating atomic energy just to roast a fly, perhaps??




IH driving offers an opportunity for true energy budgeting which naturally invites "Micro-Dosage", thanks to the Curie effect precisely. No need to reverse-engineer electronic clones with multiple critical failure modes, leave thermostatic regulation to the susceptor itself as it's been working elsewhere in top-notch applications for years...

In any case all answers proved very informative and most useful, one way or another.

Good day, have fun!!

 

[old_skool_smoker]

Salutations WineGums,



Well, not exactly as i'd prefer 1 mm thick layers (or some cladding), but this could be next. At this instant i'm only asking which DynaVap model has the lightest susceptor-like metal inside (for IH mode)......

I hate to say that I think I understood a good deal of that

Very interesting concept, and seems doable. If they can put a man on the moon...

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations Old_skool_smoker,

...I think I understood...

If memory serves me well this should even feel just like "déjà vu"...

...so what's their susceptor's weight exactly??

...

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LAVA "Bi-Energy" engine implementing fig. 11/12 item of VG's patent

Simply trap the heat inside a structure capable of flooding its associated cannabic bowl almost instantly, on a temporary/brief duration basis where inhalation airflow sets things in motion. Presently i seem to see some heat-exchangers have half of their contact-surfaces radiating energy outside in pure vain, while the convenient spiral/cap design actually costs maybe up to another half of such remaining half... Which in the end explains why those users presently testing a ~110 Watts IH-driver apparently found out that they need to boost their energy budget 4 to 5 fold when compared to mine - though my Joules come from clean-burning butane instead. Yet we're witnessing a waste many times what's really required to meet this task's requirements IMO.

Good day, have fun!!

 

[DDave]

Video with IH heatings not shown.

 

[Mr.Kite]

Whats the latest news on the DV Induction Heater?

 

[phattpiggie]

Please forgive me for the Blackwood dust under my thumb nail.

I've been asked if the twists I do help in any way with spinning a VC so here's a little video for you all to see.

 

[Vapor4me]

Please forgive me for the Blackwood dust under my thumb nail.

I've been asked if the twists I do help in any way with spinning a VC so here's a little video for you all to see.

Like playing with nipples!

V4M

 

[KidFated.]

Whats the latest news on the DV Induction Heater?

Still in the works. Hopefully soon. That's pretty much all the info we got.

 

[5210630772]

Hi everyone (again),

Even though I have said nothing for months, I have more or less followed this thread. Today I'm posting because I have a couple of concerns you may help me with. Some months ago, I happily became a Dynavaper. Today, some months after, I must admit I'm no longer that happy. In my very personal experience, the Dynavap has two issues I'd really like to solve:

1. First, the experience outdoors is 10x worse than it is indoors (at least to me). This Dynavap is awesome indoors (probably close to perfect), but it has a rather weak performance outdoors (particularly in windy conditions). My outdoors sessions are way shorter than they are indoors, and I get too dark abv material too often in a very short period of time. In sunny conditions, I can't see the flame of the lighter properly and thus I don't know how I'm heating the device. In windy conditions, I can't heat the cap properly and uniformly. Could anybody provide any hint in order to get better outdoors sessions? Mine usually suck so much that I no longer carry my VapCap outside my house unless I'm going to another place in which it is possible to vape indoors...

2. Second, the titanium screen falls off waaaaaaaaaay too often. I'm FED UP of losing Titanium screens when emptying the abv material from the tip. Does anybody know any trick to avoid them falling so often? I'm seriously thinking to use a hammer in order to make the tip slightly oval; that should help the screen stay in place for longer periods of time. Does anybody have a piece of advice that avoids hammering the tip?

Thank you all very much in advanced.

Best,
Willy.

 

[Hogni]

The screen falls off by itself? Never happened to any of my DV. Quite the contrary I ever have to use some force and tools to get them out!? Are you sure yours are in the right position?

And yes, outside handling of the VC is a bit sub optimal for my liking too. Perhaps time for DV to develope a kind of wind shield?

 

[5210630772]

The screens falls off by itself? Never happened to any of my DV. Quite the contrary I ever have to use some force and tools to get them out!? Are you sure yours are in the right position?

And yes, outside handling of the VC is a bit sub optimal for my liking too. Perhaps time for DV to develope a kind of wind shield?

Thank you for your reply, Hogni.

The screens eventually fall off when emptying the abv material from the tip with the cap. They never fall off by themselves if I do nothing, but they fall too easily when emptying the abv material. I have lost a few already...

I was hoping for some IH with a small size to improve the outdoors experience, but if DV goes with the big cup design, I'm afraid their IH won't solve the issue at all. Any other ideas?

In the end, the screens falling off is a problem, but only a relative one, since I can *always* buy more (it shouldn't be the case, though). But the problem with the outdoors experience is significantly more serious, I believe.

 

[Kalessin]

Thank you for your reply, Hogni.

The screens eventually fall off when emptying the abv material from the tip with the cap. They never fall off by themselves if I do nothing, but they fall too easily when emptying the abv material. I have lost a few already...

I was hoping for some IH with a small size to improve the outdoors experience, but if DV goes with the big cup design, I'm afraid their IH won't solve the issue at all. Any other ideas?

In the end, the screens falling off is a problem, but only a relative one, since I can *always* buy more (it shouldn't be the case, though). But the problem with the outdoors experience is significantly more serious, I believe.

I had that problem with ti screens with my LE tip. I've just moved to using the SS screens. I like the shape better anyway, and since they're stiffer they stay in place better. Easier to put in and out too, to me.

 

[Mr.Kite]

I second your complaint about jet lighter flame handling outdoors.

I am on the fence to get an outdoor vaporizer.
Fury2 i guess.

Strange because initially the vapcap was thought to be the outdoor vape while i still head my arizer solo.

 

[5210630772]

Thank you for your replies, Kalessin and Mr. Kite.

Kalessin: I will try your suggestion: the next bulk of screens I buy will be SS and not Ti. I'll let you know if the issue improves.

Mr. Kite: it's a pitty, but I'm happy to see I'm not the only one with these issues.

 

[Kalessin]

Thank you for your replies, Kalessin and Mr. Kite.

Kalessin: I will try your suggestion: the next bulk of screens I buy will be SS and not Ti. I'll let you know if the issue improves.

Mr. Kite: it's a pitty, but I'm happy to see I'm not the only one with these issues.

Hopefully it will help. I kind of miss the ti screens just because it meant the tip was all titanium, but those ti screens are way too expensive to be falling out and getting lost all the time.

 

[Dynalowrider]

@Willy If I were you I would switch to ss screens. Before giving up on that screen you have, place it on a flat, metal truck bumper, or something heavy, cup of screen down. Then hit it square with a flat faced hammer, then put it in the VC, (square). When the ccd screen came out a while back. I thought this was the best way to get the wrinkles out. We used to use ceramic screens, held in by "Jesus clips". That was what you yelled when it goes flying after the third attempt at installation. Hammer works for me when they get bent out of shape. Doc

 

[5210630772]

@Willy If I were you I would switch to ss screens. Before giving up on that screen you have, place it on a flat, metal truck bumper, or something heavy, cup of screen down. Then hit it square with a flat faced hammer, then put it in the VC, (square). When the ccd screen came out a while back. I thought this was the best way to get the wrinkles out. We used to use ceramic screens, held in by "Jesus clips". That was what you yelled when it goes flying after the third attempt at installation. Hammer works for me when they get bent out of shape. Doc

Thank you for your comment, Dynalowrider. I'll take that piece of advice with me as well, since I still have 2 SS screens (one in my Omni and another one saved as a replacement).

PS: Kalessin, you are right, but a bit of SS instead of Ti will be the smallest issue, I believe...

 

[stark1]

Hello, Willy! Glad you didn’t fall off the edge of the planet!

While not optimal, you can try to shield the VapCap by using your body away from the sun, and wind.
Turn away and try to minimize the intensity of the source by blocking it with your body, and clothes.

A pocketable induction tube would help solve the problem. Until then, I sometimes use a torch with a nozzle in which the tip of the VapCap is inserted, thus being “windproof”. Downside, it is designed as a tabletop model.

You may try to fashion a small cone, or cylinder to shield the tip but that could be an annoyance, and
cumbersome.

As Hogni said, I too have not had a screen fall out, if seated properly. Perhaps use a Petri dish, or small plate to minimze losing it when emptying the AVB, and making sure it is securely seated, flat.

Don’t give up the ship. Look for solutions, mi amigo.

 

[5210630772]

Hello, Willy! Glad you didn’t fall off the edge of the planet!

While not optimal, you can try to shield the VapCap by using your body away from the sun, and wind.
Turn away and try to minimize the intensity of the source by blocking it with your body, and clothes.

A pocketable induction tube would help solve the problem. Until then, I sometimes use a torch with a nozzle in which the tip of the VapCap is inserted, thus being “windproof”. Downside, it is designed as a tabletop model.

You may try to fashion a small cone, or cylinder to shield the tip but that could be an annoyance, and
cumbersome.

As Hogni said, I too have not had a screen fall out, if seated properly. Perhaps use a Petri dish, or small plate to minimze losing it when emptying the AVB, and making sure it is securely seated, flat.

Don’t give up the ship. Look for solutions, mi amigo.

Thank you very much for your comment, stark1. I do not plan to give up on Dynavap at all: I still really like the device, its efficiency, its potency, and its look and feel (as well as the DynastashER). Despite the issues I'm experiencing, I know that all devices have their own drawbacks. I just posted here to look for some solutions, and at least one of my problems (the one with the screens) seems to have an easy one. The problem with the heating requires patience (will we ever see a pocketable IH?) and looking for places that are kind of sun- and wind-protected.

By the way, is there any pic of these "torch with a nozzle in which the tip of the VapCap is inserted" that you mention? I'm not sure I'm getting it right in my head...

Best,
Willy.

 

[Hogni]

Next question. With which tool do you empty your ABV. I give just a short hard blow through the mp. But even when using a tool I can't loose the screen. Do you push your screen while inserting with a bit force at each point all around until it sits fast under the rim?

I guess stark means this one?