KidFated.
Unknown Member
Honestly the 18m tip is pretty fuckin amazing.......... but ti is nice for the cool down time. I'm not so worried about heat up time usually.
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KidFated.
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Yeah the 18m does have decent airflow with the double helix, but not as good as a filed 17m or ti. Could always file if needed but I haven't with my 18 yet, I like it..
Skunkport
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My 18M tip was completely useless until I filed it, there was literally NO air flow at all. I tried moving the cap out a bit and it just sucked straight back up against the tip.
The end of the M18 tip is completely flat, so when the flat end of the cap is against it and held in place by you sucking at it, there's nowhere for any air to get, the helix does nothing.
The end of the M18 tip is completely flat, so when the flat end of the cap is against it and held in place by you sucking at it, there's nowhere for any air to get, the helix does nothing.
beyond6strings
Just another traveller in the Cannaverse
beyond6strings
Just another traveller in the Cannaverse
I've not filed it. I love it the way it is. But YMMV.
Skunkport
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You guys who haven't filed your M tips, is the end of the tip that sits against the cap completely flat on yours?
Mine was, so when I sucked on it, the cap was sucked up flush and formed a seal, like putting a flat piece of metal over the end of a vacuum cleaner if that makes it clearer.
Maybe my cap is looser than it should be, so it pulls up against the tip and seals instead of staying a little out?
Something's got to be different about yours than mine I'm sure, it just makes no mechanical sense tome otherwise, the harder I sucked, the harder the cap was pulled up to the tip and the tighter it was sealed lol.
Mine was, so when I sucked on it, the cap was sucked up flush and formed a seal, like putting a flat piece of metal over the end of a vacuum cleaner if that makes it clearer.
Maybe my cap is looser than it should be, so it pulls up against the tip and seals instead of staying a little out?
Something's got to be different about yours than mine I'm sure, it just makes no mechanical sense tome otherwise, the harder I sucked, the harder the cap was pulled up to the tip and the tighter it was sealed lol.
kuzko
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Mine look flat but if I look very closely they have slight grooves where the spirals reach the top. It is very slight so hard to see but definitely there.
Skunkport
Well-Known Member
Mine was flat as a pancake, the spirals didn't actually reach the top. At the top it was chamfered inward and that was flat.
Looking at mine now, the spirals don't all reach the bottom either, it looks like they're just not machined quite deep enough?
Yeah they don't reach, I just got my 60x microscope on the spirals at the fins end of the tip, only 2 of the 6 spiral cuts actually reach through the chamfer at that end.
Looking at mine now, the spirals don't all reach the bottom either, it looks like they're just not machined quite deep enough?
Yeah they don't reach, I just got my 60x microscope on the spirals at the fins end of the tip, only 2 of the 6 spiral cuts actually reach through the chamfer at that end.
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kuzko
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Perhaps you received a defective tip. I just checked mine and spirals go from bottom to top. I would contact DV about yours. I would post pics but imgur doesn’t seem to be working on FC right now.
Vaporware
Well-Known Member
The grooves on mine do just reach the end, but there’s no real break in the top rim for the air to actually come through...maybe that’s why I felt the 18M tip was so much more restricted than the Ti tip, just a manufacturing defect?
A couple of places I like to stick it.
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bossman
Gentleman Of Leisure
I recently got a Jarhead IH from @Pipes and I've been enjoying the fine grind from my GR8TR with my omni xl. First rate extraction and vapor production as if that was even possible to improve on the XL. I haven't gone back and tried the fine grind with a torch to see if it's just as good.
Forgive me if this is common knowledge; I'm new.
Forgive me if this is common knowledge; I'm new.
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
My spirals also go from top to bottom. It wouldn't hurt to file the channel open I'm sure, but many are happy with it without doing that.
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alex91
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Guys I’ve got an M 2018 and when I pull it, closing the carb or not, it feels the same. It's like the the carb is always closed.
I also have a M 2017, so I switched the tips, and with the 2017 tip the 2018 M works as expected. The tip seems perfect, not sure what’s up. Any ideas?
I also have a M 2017, so I switched the tips, and with the 2017 tip the 2018 M works as expected. The tip seems perfect, not sure what’s up. Any ideas?
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
Uh, no. It is good to think, and I believe DV considers the Ti tip to be an upgrade of the SS tip. It has wider deeper channels, the tip end of the channels are grooved, and it is faster to heat up and cool down because it is Ti. And it is more expensive, as upgrades usually are.
Many hundreds of folks love the M the way it is, but it can be improved (IMO) by filing the channel a bit. It is not necessary, but it is a user doable upgrade.
At least several of the users here prefer the SS tip due to the way they use it. Not all "upgrades" are for all people.
alex91
Well-Known Member
I’ve just checked. I’ve removed one by one and tested, with 2 o-rings, 1 o-ring and even without any o-ring, and there’s still no difference.
JamesTiberiousKirk
Well-Known Member
You eliminated the cap and tip by using it on the M17, and eliminated the o-rings.... Unless the condenser is clogged then it must be caused by demons.
"If the obvious is eliminated ... Blame demons" - Sherlock Holmes
