szai
Well-Known Member
Quite honestly it's been a problem for me luckily they cost me very little or is be more concerned. I'll find them when I find them ins. I think I've had a breakthrough! I seen to recall somewhere I should check!
Dynavap VapCap
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Quite honestly it's been a problem for me luckily they cost me very little or is be more concerned. I'll find them when I find them ins. I think I've had a breakthrough! I seen to recall somewhere I should check!
Drexciya
Homage to the Deepsea Dwellers
What does this mean? I tried Google translate but I didnt get further than the gallbladder
From Wikipedia
"Galling is a form of wear caused by adhesion between sliding surfaces. When a material galls, some of it is pulled with the contacting surface, especially if there is a large amount of force compressing the surfaces together. Galling is caused by a combination of friction and adhesion between the surfaces, followed by slipping and tearing of crystal structure beneath the surface. This will generally leave some material stuck or even friction welded to the adjacent surface, whereas the galled material may appear gouged with balled-up or torn lumps of material stuck to its surface."
"However, if the metal has a high number of stacking faults (a difference in stacking sequence between atomic planes) it will be less apt to cross-slip at the dislocations. Therefore, a material's resistance to galling is usually determined by its stacking-fault energy. A material with high stacking-fault energy, such as aluminium or titanium, will be far more susceptible to galling than materials with low stacking-fault energy, like copper, bronze, or gold. Conversely, materials with a hexagonal close packed (HCP) structure, such as cobalt-based alloys, are extremely resistant to galling.[2]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galling
Basically it acts like metallic chewing gum that sticks and stretches when you try to cut it.
Drexciya
Homage to the Deepsea Dwellers
Diggy Smalls
Notorious
I've been breaking off little pieces and cramming them tightly into my M, I think I like this best. Quick and easy, and I can better regulate how much I'm using because it's easier to gauge than ground up flower.
This little guy makes some of the densest vapor I've ever tried before.
This little guy makes some of the densest vapor I've ever tried before.
Yet ,personally I admire another special characteristic that Titanium has .
And it is directly related to vaporizing.
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When the titanium is exposed to ambient air at room temperature, a passive oxide film is spontaneously formed on its surface. This passive film is amorphous, very thin (5-10 nm thickness [9]), and composed of three layers [10, 11]: the first layer adjacent to metallic titanium is TiO, the intermediary layer is Ti2O3, and the third layer, which is in contact with the environment, is anatase TiO2. At room temperature, anatase TiO2 is the most important layer in thickness and responsible for the integration between the implant and the human bone when the material is not submitted to a thermal treatment at high temperature. The surface oxide film on titanium formed in the air is so protective that the further oxidation of titanium is prevented in various circumstances and mediums [12]. Even during sterilization in autoclave under a saturated water vapor pressure at 120 ºC for 1.8 ks, oxidation of titanium does not proceed [12].
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http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S1517-70762007000300014
Anatase.
A medium hard lustrous mineral.
Titanium is coated with it.
Titanium is a metal but regarding "taste" is behaving ,more or less, like glass.
A mineral -coated metal actually.
100% neutral & totally inert .
It does not have a "metallic taste" ,neither affects the taste of vapour.
That was very convincing, but I have to say, in my experience titanium does have a metallic taste which does affect the taste of the vapor.
You can easily compare this by dabbing the same extract on titanium versus quartz, which I have compared many times as I have both surfaces plugged in and running all day.
edit: @stardustsailor I hope that didn't come off rude as you are one of my favorite posters and very intelligent. I was not aware of that mineral like coating, that's actually super interesting, but I just wanted to say that many of us in the Flowerpot thread do notice taste difference between Ti and other materials. I agree with you that it's still a great material to build a vaporizer from!
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Dabbing is dabbing and vaporizing is vaporizing.
Two different things.
Does the titanium gets red-hot while dabbing ?
Have you noticed white particles/ residues on the surface of Titanium ,after heating all day ?
If the answer on both questions is yes ,
then it's actually quite normal for "adding " metallic taste to the vapour.
Almost any metal that gets red-hot will begin to evaporate .
Titanium's protective oxide layer will deteriorate and will become brittle.
Looks like white dust ,then.
In our beloved VapCap the titanium parts never reach such high temperatures like
in dabbing. Thus the protective oxide layer remains intact.
As a personal point of view note I consider dabbing a quite unhealthy delivery method,
for quite a few reasons.High temperature is not a good thing,for starters.
For all the materials involved.
Elevated temperature makes matter volatile or deteriorates it .
All matter .Not just the one of interest.
Even quartz can crack (invisible to the naked eye microcracking ) and release SiO2
particles inside the lungs ,after intense heat'n'cool cycles.
Have you heard of silicosis ?
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Quartz crystals are chiral, and exist in two forms, the normal α-quartz and the high-temperature β-quartz. The transformation from α-quartz to β-quartz takes place abruptly at 573 °C (846 K). Since the transformation is accompanied by a significant change in volume, it can easily induce fracturing of ceramics or rocks passing through this temperature limit.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz
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Silicosis is due to deposition of fine respirable dust (less than 10 micrometers in diameter) containing crystalline silicon dioxide in the form of alpha-quartz, cristobalite, or tridymite
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicosis
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No, it never gets heated anywhere near red hot titanium dioxide levels. Temperature controlled e-nails via PID. Dabbing is vaporization - mostly via conduction.
In that case I find it really weird that Titanium affects taste.
It shouldn't ,at least theoretically .
Titanium is as inert as a metal can be.
Due to the mineral nature of it's oxide protective layer.
To release metal ions or to react with the vapour ,a titanium surface has to be free
of it's oxide layer.
And that is almost impossible to be happening while Titanium is exposed to atmospheric air,
at temperatures up to ~750°C .
One explanation would be the Ti grade used at dabbing equipment.
Not all grades are the same.
Unalloyed titanium grades ( 1,2,3 & 4 ) behave very differently versus their alloyed counterparts.
http://mrtitanium.com/tigrades.html
http://www.supraalloys.com/titanium-grades.php
To my understanding best options for vaporising is grade 1 and grade 2.
Grade 1 is rather soft ,so the harder grade 2 is probably the best option.
Grade 5 from the other hand is one of the worst options,
as it contains Vanadium and Aluminium .
Very hard alloy but not a good option to be subjected to the heat cycles of dabbing/vaporizing.
Yes that also was my understanding, that Grade 1 and 2 were preferable with vaping. My Flowerpot is 100% Grade 2 titanium.
My dish temperature is only around 400F with my Ti and Quartz nails and I dab rosin which is essentially just a less contaminated version of old school hashish that has been around for ages.
My dish temperature is only around 400F with my Ti and Quartz nails and I dab rosin which is essentially just a less contaminated version of old school hashish that has been around for ages.
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Tronzo669
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Greetings fellow cappers!
I haven't had much time to check the thread lately, just been playing catch-up right now.
Tomorrow marks the 7 day Mark since I got my 2018 M, my first vapcap ever, my introduction to the dynaverse if you will
and I am extremely proud and happy to say that I have not combusted once, cut my herb consumption in half, and already convinced my SO and 3 bandmates to grab one!
My coguitarist in my main band has been using an mflb for around a year and he basically told me aside from reducing the smell factor in his apartment and helping to conserve small amounts of herb, he much preferred smoking in most situations. I gave him a couple of solid hits off of my vapcap and after he finished coughing ( because he was not expecting that big of a cloud
) the first words out of his mouth were "how much is one of those?"
How did I avoid combustion while letting friends try it? Simple, I didn't let them torch it 
, I just passed it over like a Doobie right after the click and told them to puff as hard as they want and use the carb like you would on a pipe. My girl just finally ordered one though so I'm gonna have to take her to DV gym and get her spin technique on point before her package arrives.
As for the overall experience, this is literally the herbal vaporizer I've always wanted. the learning curve was pretty minimal for me thanks to awesome YouTubers and the helpful folks in this community, I basically knew exactly how everything was gonna be before I even had it in my hand. Pairing it with the ID silo has been the perfect work day companion. I used to bring a joint for my lunch break to work most days and I was always rushed to eat, have enough time to smoke, and get back to work on time on a half hour lunch. Not to mention the extra time it took to pre roll before work and find a reasonably smellproof way to hide it, and the fact that I work in proximity to quite a few other people in a call center, some of whom ( although tbh, a minority at my particular workplace) find the after joint stank a little offensive on someone sitting right next to you.
Now I simply grind up a little nug (what i would consider to be around half to 3/4 of what I'd normally put in a joint)before work, pack one bowl ready to go in the VC, Throw that in the main silo tube, and loosely toss enough for 2 more bowls in the silos stash compartment. With that and my vertigo zplus 2flame, I have enough time and bud to vape a capful on even my 15 minute breaks if I want
and a completely odourless and discreet way to carry it all around! That said I don't usually end up needing more than one bowl during a work shift, but for those extra stressful shifts it's always nice to have that insurance stash
. best part is when I go home, I usually still have capful or 2 waiting in the silo and I don't even need to grind anything else up most nights! In 7 days I've gone from an average of 2g herb per day to 1g using only the VC for the last quarter oz I bought, minus one or 2 group session joints I pitched in for at a friend's birthday party last weekend. And really, my favourite part is it doesn't even feel like I'm using less. Every other herb based portable vaporizer I've tried has fallen short in this category. With my hebe Titan 2, I would vape a bowl just to get some nice flavour on new strains, and then smoke a joint or a bong to actually get high because it just wasn't putting out like I thought it should. After 2 quick caps on my VC, the last thing on my mind is a joint!! It is still a different high from smoking, but with the VC, I think I finally understand what vaping herb is SUPPOSED to feel like, and I think I much prefer it.
In summary, I couldn't be more happy with my vapcap. I am now an ambassador to the dynaverse and will continue to switch every smoker I know to this amazing piece of mechanical genius. Already planning my next order this weekend, I'm thinking TI tip and TI standard condenser, maybe another torch or 2 for good measure
I'm thinking for the coming summer months, having the quicker cool down and heatup of the ti, plus all the other awesome benefits of a ti airpath that @stardustsailor explained, would enhance my experience that much more. then, once we come around to winter time again, I'll switch back to the SS tip so I get that extra heat retention outside in the cold... But let's be honest, I'm probably going to have 2 or 3 more vapcaps in my collection by winter anyway 
I haven't had much time to check the thread lately, just been playing catch-up right now.
Tomorrow marks the 7 day Mark since I got my 2018 M, my first vapcap ever, my introduction to the dynaverse if you will
and I am extremely proud and happy to say that I have not combusted once, cut my herb consumption in half, and already convinced my SO and 3 bandmates to grab one!My coguitarist in my main band has been using an mflb for around a year and he basically told me aside from reducing the smell factor in his apartment and helping to conserve small amounts of herb, he much preferred smoking in most situations. I gave him a couple of solid hits off of my vapcap and after he finished coughing ( because he was not expecting that big of a cloud
) the first words out of his mouth were "how much is one of those?" How did I avoid combustion while letting friends try it? Simple, I didn't let them torch it , I just passed it over like a Doobie right after the click and told them to puff as hard as they want and use the carb like you would on a pipe. My girl just finally ordered one though so I'm gonna have to take her to DV gym and get her spin technique on point before her package arrives.As for the overall experience, this is literally the herbal vaporizer I've always wanted. the learning curve was pretty minimal for me thanks to awesome YouTubers and the helpful folks in this community, I basically knew exactly how everything was gonna be before I even had it in my hand. Pairing it with the ID silo has been the perfect work day companion. I used to bring a joint for my lunch break to work most days and I was always rushed to eat, have enough time to smoke, and get back to work on time on a half hour lunch. Not to mention the extra time it took to pre roll before work and find a reasonably smellproof way to hide it, and the fact that I work in proximity to quite a few other people in a call center, some of whom ( although tbh, a minority at my particular workplace) find the after joint stank a little offensive on someone sitting right next to you.
Now I simply grind up a little nug (what i would consider to be around half to 3/4 of what I'd normally put in a joint)before work, pack one bowl ready to go in the VC, Throw that in the main silo tube, and loosely toss enough for 2 more bowls in the silos stash compartment. With that and my vertigo zplus 2flame, I have enough time and bud to vape a capful on even my 15 minute breaks if I want
and a completely odourless and discreet way to carry it all around! That said I don't usually end up needing more than one bowl during a work shift, but for those extra stressful shifts it's always nice to have that insurance stash. best part is when I go home, I usually still have capful or 2 waiting in the silo and I don't even need to grind anything else up most nights! In 7 days I've gone from an average of 2g herb per day to 1g using only the VC for the last quarter oz I bought, minus one or 2 group session joints I pitched in for at a friend's birthday party last weekend. And really, my favourite part is it doesn't even feel like I'm using less. Every other herb based portable vaporizer I've tried has fallen short in this category. With my hebe Titan 2, I would vape a bowl just to get some nice flavour on new strains, and then smoke a joint or a bong to actually get high because it just wasn't putting out like I thought it should. After 2 quick caps on my VC, the last thing on my mind is a joint!! It is still a different high from smoking, but with the VC, I think I finally understand what vaping herb is SUPPOSED to feel like, and I think I much prefer it.In summary, I couldn't be more happy with my vapcap. I am now an ambassador to the dynaverse and will continue to switch every smoker I know to this amazing piece of mechanical genius. Already planning my next order this weekend, I'm thinking TI tip and TI standard condenser, maybe another torch or 2 for good measure
I'm thinking for the coming summer months, having the quicker cool down and heatup of the ti, plus all the other awesome benefits of a ti airpath that @stardustsailor explained, would enhance my experience that much more. then, once we come around to winter time again, I'll switch back to the SS tip so I get that extra heat retention outside in the cold... But let's be honest, I'm probably going to have 2 or 3 more vapcaps in my collection by winter anyway 
VanCough
Environmentalist
My girl just finally ordered one though so I'm gonna have to take her to DV gym and get her spin technique on point before her package arrives
I've been there, I just ended up heating the cap for my partner for almost a year until I said enough is enough and told her that if she wanted to vape with the vapcap she'd have to do it herself.
Miraculously she then mastered it in a couple of days! She just wanted a slave/butler
Tronzo669
Well-Known Member
In her defense, don't we all want a Butler now and then? Who needs an induction heater, just pass the torch over to JeevesMiraculously she then mastered it in a couple of days! She just wanted a slave/butler
Sometimes, SDS, you scare the VapCaps out of me. 
Ricardo
Well-Known Member
Ah, the things stoner dads do....yesterday evening I had a couple of smallish sessions with the Omni, got me nice and mellow. Then later, with suitable music and low lighting I decided to hit the NonaVong through the Lil' Chinese Bubbler. Pre-heated, loaded, reheated a bit longer, heated to the click, one Mississippi, two Mississippi, three and draw...a mouth full of soapy dishwater!!! Totally forgot I'd left the glass soaking. To my credit, I quickly rinsed out my mouth and hit the NonaVong native (for the first time). Still worked great
edit: @stardustsailor I hope that didn't come off rude as you are one of my favorite posters and very intelligent. I was not aware of that mineral like coating, that's actually super interesting, but I just wanted to say that many of us in the Flowerpot thread do notice taste difference between Ti and other materials. I agree with you that it's still a great material to build a vaporizer from!
No worries,brother !
As I've never used a dabbing equipment I've to trust your own personal experience.
Still,it remains somewhat of a mystery to me ,why this might be happening.
I'll do a small research about it as soon as I've some spare time.
Titanium ( the commercially pure grade 2) is a great material for the vaporizing world
and the tech surrounding it.
By far better than most other metals currently used .
Lady V
Well-Known Member
I love your posts! They are like short stories!
Even though I don't have a great experience with vaping, I instantly loved the vapcap high! Honestly, and maybe this has to do with my medium to low tolerance, the first time it hit me, it felt exactly the way I felt when I smoked my firsts few joints. Before all the nasties of smoking started settling in my system, it used to feel amazing. I'm guessing that combustion releases some chemicals that vaporisation cannot, but I love the vaping high so much more! I'm still in awe that my mj headaches and general grogginess disappeared.
Really jealous of your "conversion" successes, I haven't managed to convince a single soul (however they do admire the device). I guess my pitching technique is not great... or they just don't want to quit smoking...
All of them!!!! Or just an M, works perfectly! But beware, you'll get more. There's no humanly possible way you won't...
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MegaMan2k
Well-Known Member
I just didnt want to drop 180 for my first one, was thinking about the "NONAVONG" to get started with since its cheap
Any other of the cheaper models i should rather look at maybe?
And also, where should i order from when im located in EU? official website or some EU reseller?
Any other of the cheaper models i should rather look at maybe?
And also, where should i order from when im located in EU? official website or some EU reseller?
Lady V
Well-Known Member
I just didnt want to drop 180 for my first one, was thinking about the "NONAVONG" to get started with since its cheap
Any other of the cheaper models i should rather look at maybe?
And also, where should i order from when im located in EU? official website or some EU reseller?
If I were you I would buy and M and a Ti tip (with or without a cap) so I could test them and build from there. As I said... I don't think you won't add more vapcaps after buying your first one.
And wait until you discover the custom stem guys here... Oh man, you're already in trouble just by thinking of getting your first cap.
I've been buying them from Vaposhop and had a great experience both times. I think there's a French based one called Jah Vaporizers and Vapefiend in UK.
I believe none of the above carries the new Ti condensers. Not sure.
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Hackerman
User
I believe the 'M' is the standard starter model. And, the least expensive. It was my first.
Then, I bought a vong but afterwards, I realized how easy it is to adapt the M to a bong so I don't really use the vong much.
I definitely recommend buying it from Puff-it-up. puffitup.com rather than Dynavap directly.
contact @PuffItUp if you have any questions.
Then, I bought a vong but afterwards, I realized how easy it is to adapt the M to a bong so I don't really use the vong much.
I definitely recommend buying it from Puff-it-up. puffitup.com rather than Dynavap directly.
contact @PuffItUp if you have any questions.
MegaMan2k
Well-Known Member
@Lady V Sounds like im in for a treat then
And yes good old Vapefiend, i think that will indeed be the fastest option for me (delivery wise)
I am considering either the M or the vong,
You said the M is easily adapted to a glass joint? Then the only difference will be to choose between the wood and the titanium finnish ?
the "2018, m" on vapefiend as a carp hole, will i regret this?
And yes good old Vapefiend, i think that will indeed be the fastest option for me (delivery wise)
I am considering either the M or the vong,
You said the M is easily adapted to a glass joint? Then the only difference will be to choose between the wood and the titanium finnish ?
the "2018, m" on vapefiend as a carp hole, will i regret this?
You can adjust the internal x ring to close off the carb hole, I just used a bit of heat shrink over it until I heard of the x ring adjustment. I only have the 2018 M(butane powered wise) and think it is great vape and would highly recommend as a starting platform.
VanCough
Environmentalist
@MegaMan2k check out thehedonistclub.co.uk as well. The owner is a really nice guy and went above and beyond to help me.