BakedDiogenes
Well-Known Member
I’m fairly new to dabbing, so I’m curious how long you wait with the V5 after it’s at temp before you start drawing? I’ve been starting my draw when I see a bit of vapor, but I feel like the hits could be larger.
Divine Tribe atty's
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~Elizabeth~
~fucking combustion since June 1st, 2022~
I have the V4, but it and the V5 share the same coils. Which kind of coil do you use? As I understand it, the quartz coils take longer to heat up than the metal options.
I use quartz, and what seems to work well for me is to hit the fire button for 4 seconds (I count to five in my head because I always count too fast xD), let off the fire button for a second and then start inhaling as I hit the fire button for four more seconds. When it gets towards the end of the material I'll do three four seconds cycles instead of two as the vapor will thin. Hope that helps some!
androponic
vaped.
The DTV4 and DTV5 do not share the same coils.
florduh
Well-Known Member
Keep in mind the mod is reading the temp of the embedded coil, not the cup itself. It will take a few more seconds for the cup to stabilize to the temp set on the mod. I usually wait for the mod to reach temp, wait a beat or two, then start inhaling. Not the only way to do it but it works for me. Experiment with temps too. Starting at 450F and adjusting from there is how I do it.
BabyFacedFinster
Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
I tend to use the V5 with the Core erig rather than the mod version, but a little vapor after reaching temp is when I tend to start drawing also.
I would suggest looking at DT's website. They have a reddit site and a discord which provides a lot of info and tutorials on everything V5.
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~Elizabeth~
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Oops xD
DJ Colonel Corn
The Vapor Ninja
...and people wonder why FC is dying.....
Folks, this forum won't get any better if we keep telling peeps to join discord or reddit, heh.
Jah75
Well-Known Member
I like to wait a bit because the vapor trail will start as the oil starts boiling - if you are drawing as it’s bubbling and boiling, you are much more likely to sling trate out of the cup and onto the inner cap.
There is also the temp issue, you will heat a heavier (truer to temp) hit if you wait for the cup to hit the temp displayed (small delay)
BabyFacedFinster
Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
@DJ Colonel Corn, you offer a lot of great advice on this thread. I also provide whatever advice I can for others on topics/threads where I feel knowledgable enough. In this case, I don't have the Divine Tribe knowledge that you have. In fact, I wasn't going to say anything, but having learned a great deal about the V5 on Matt's discord and reddit site I thought directing someone there was being helpful.
I wasn't going to say anything, but I don't appreciate you using my post as your example for why people aren't frequenting the FC. No one is stopping you from helping out @BakedDiogenes. Have at it.
DJ Colonel Corn
The Vapor Ninja
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the hits will be 'bigger' if you use a higher temperature, @BakedDiogenes ....
I generally go between 450-500 F if i want a huge rip, leaving it at a maximum of 36 watts.
It's also dependent on your material.
Also, when using water filtration and the v5, one doesn't 'feel' the hit in their lungs as much as one would assume, thereby leading people to believe they didn't get a 'fat rip'.
As far as when to hit it, yeah i usually hit it about 3-5 seconds after it reaches temp, which is when you should see vapor.
Hit it slow. The slower the better.
I also HIGHLY recommend water filtration, you didn't mention if you had a hubble or a BB or any sort of water tool.
They usually generate fatter tokes than just hitting it directly.
With a BB I can fill a bong chamber, or, fill my hubble up with sweet thick milk, more than I can handle.
Let me know how it goes with the temperature experiments.
To @BabyFacedFinster , sorry I didn't mean any offense....... I just see the more people mention other platforms here the more this one dies off.
Sure Discord is helpful, but it's also a huge ego battle.
Reddit is helpful too but you get a lot of problems there as well, comments from the peanut gallery.
One time I questioned someone's setup on Reddit, and they held it against me for 2 years, until finally, as he had become an admin of the Discord server, he abused his admin power to 'get revenge' on me for that Reddit post I had made years before.
Hopefully you won't burn with hatred and ask the Lord to send me to hell for the next 2 years, for my comment here.
What can I say.
I regret posting as often as I enjoy posting, on this platform, and others.
"You can't make all the people happy all the time"
Rob420
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Chaote - discordian
I use small plastic squeeze bottles with skinny plastic or needle like metal tips to sqeeze water into the Hubble Bubble. Fits down the mouth intake perfectly.
With just straight tap water the glass on the Hubble Bubble gets gross very quickly. Residue shows after 2 or 3 uses and becomes really ugly after 10 or so uses. Through trial & error I found that distilled water (cheap by the gallon) with about a teaspoon of Citric acid dissolved in lasts for weeks before any residue shows slightly.
After approximately 100+ uses the water & trace residue flushes out easily.
I bought Yogti Citric Acid Powder 2LB on Amazon for $15 Canadian.
Should last a lifetime. Problem solved.
RustyOldNail
SEARCH for the treasure...
I’ve never used any various additives, just DISTILLED WATER, as I prefer NOT to base my decision to clean based on the LOOK of the water. Personally, I like SEEING when I should change…. but honestly…. being a BIT ocd, I usually use my sink, with quick connect hose with 14mm fitting to blast it with clean HOT water, usually with a touch of Simple Green Crystal, or PBW. Everyone has their own way, that’s mine as I try to vape as clean as I can, as lungs have no defense system other then coughing….
BakedDiogenes
Well-Known Member
thanks for the info. I was mainly looking for the temp and “3-5 seconds” you mention. I have a BB and a Hubble and have been experimenting with both.
I’ve been starting at lower temps (420) and then bump up to 460 after a few hits. Finally bought a bubble cap, so results do seem to be improving.
al bundy
Vaporist
What mod are you using?
And try 35-36 watts no tcr
I use tcr 215
450-36 watts on Pico 21700 arctic fox
Also a Grus with AFox
As far as draw
2-3 seconds After the bubbling stops
florduh
Well-Known Member
What's your resistance reading at? I was scared to go that high when the base recommended TCR is 180. But I noticed bumping it up to 195 increased performance.
I've been getting my v5 dialed in and using it more than my M22. Really enjoying it. I don't really want to stay hooked on AVS products when it seems like the business is built on a house of cards. Replacement cups for the v5 are always readily available and affordable.
al bundy
Vaporist
I use tcr 210 (just checked)
resistance is 45
450f -36 watts
Been using this more n more also
Same bucket from when they came out
Took it apart when I first got it
Put it back together
Haven’t messed with it since
No problem ,no tcr kicking back to wattage mode
It just works
Totally agree on the m22 the clips are the weakest link I think there
Should add wire to the Escc for power
Legs for stability?
resistance is 45
450f -36 watts
Been using this more n more also
Same bucket from when they came out
Took it apart when I first got it
Put it back together
Haven’t messed with it since
No problem ,no tcr kicking back to wattage mode
It just works
Totally agree on the m22 the clips are the weakest link I think there
Should add wire to the Escc for power
Legs for stability?
florduh
Well-Known Member
Shit, maybe I should bump up my TCR a little more and give it a whirl. I agree the v5 has very stable resistance vs the m22. I do get a slight increase if I'm too ambitious with my q-tipping. But I'm just letting the crucible hang out on the m22 deck without anything stabilizing it. No matter though. A slight tightening with a screwdriver gets it right back to the starting resistance, no problem.
According to AVS, the crucible has to be held by clips that move a little under power otherwise the SiC will break. I dunno. It's a great product when it works, but it needs their proprietary mod to really have a fully working product. You can get it working but it will require fiddling. The way the spring clips work, there will pretty quickly be resistance changes. Their mod is supposed to compensate for that on the fly. But it still hasn't shipped yet.
I still think they'll probably get the mod sorted and shipped. But I'm kind of worried about the health of the company. I hear there will still be delays for new mod purchases after the pre-orders ship. My fear is, the compnay will fold, I won't be able to source spring clips and I'm shit out of luck. So I'm getting used to the v5. I'm sure those v5 heaters will be in production for a long ass time.
BakedDiogenes
Well-Known Member
I’ve got mine set at TCR 190, 36w, 420f-480f on a Rim C and one on a Ravage 230.
Picked up a bubble cap and pearl, started at higher starting temps, and have seen good results so far.
florduh
Well-Known Member
I've got a dumb-dumb question. I've got TC on my v5 dialed in pretty well. At least if the q-tip test is viable. I find 450F to be quite hot. Not totally uncomfortable, but still hot. Hot enough to chazz the dish unless I'm drawing hard enough to cool the ceramic off a bit. I prefer my highest temps to go 440F. And my favorite temps are from 420-430.
I guess my dumb question is... isn't that "low" temp compared to e-nails or a torched dab? Even other e-rig devices have their lowest temp start at 490 or 500. I could set my v5 that high, but it would ruin the taste and chazz the banger.
Is there something about the way the v5 operates that makes these sub-500F temps work so well? Are my temps less accurate than I think? I mean even at 420F, a rice grain dab is basically gone after a 5-6 second inhale. Just the tiniest smudge of reclaim is left for the q-tip.
I guess my dumb question is... isn't that "low" temp compared to e-nails or a torched dab? Even other e-rig devices have their lowest temp start at 490 or 500. I could set my v5 that high, but it would ruin the taste and chazz the banger.
Is there something about the way the v5 operates that makes these sub-500F temps work so well? Are my temps less accurate than I think? I mean even at 420F, a rice grain dab is basically gone after a 5-6 second inhale. Just the tiniest smudge of reclaim is left for the q-tip.
youknowyou87
Member
I also never go over 410F on my Aegis legend mod in TCR mode
400F is my preffered temp.
florduh
Well-Known Member
I tried these temps and really enjoy them. Do we think these are accurate numbers? I don't really see a lot of e-nail users going that low. But 400F produces a ton of vapor on the v5.
DJ Colonel Corn
The Vapor Ninja
Regarding the temp our mods show vs. the real temperature...
Uitpersen, a user on Discord, shared this info with us when the V5 was new:
Measured with a Fluke 52-2 temp meter and two different k type thermocouples.
Standard wire style thermocouple and a fluke surface probe.
My Terpometer measures round 30° hotter.
-TCR 180, 38w, 410°f, .46 ohm heater:
This setting with a .46 ohm heater is close to the set temp around 25-30 second.
At around 20 seconds the temp is 380°f by 30 seconds it's 410°f.
Hold past 30 seconds for another 15 sec and the temp fluctuates around 445°f by about 8 degrees.
90 second hold and the temps reached 461°f.
-TFR Ni, 38w, 210°f, .46 ohm heater.
Actual temp is reached much faster.
About 15 seconds to reach 410°f and at 20 sec I'm at 433°f, 30 sec at 445°f.
Hold past 30 seconds for another 15 sec and the temp fluctuates around 448°f, holding for 90 secs temp reached 471°f
In other words, it's pretty close.
The q-tip test method IS viable, also.
Some users are using TCR values up to 220.
I agree with most, that the lower end of the temp spectrum produces better results.
youknowyou87
Member
yeah, its extremely device variable
but, on my DC nail kit, im also at 400F.
also your TCR is a it higher then mine which will make your device hotter.
I prefer 190 TCR, 34W, 410F
this gives me very fast extraction: 2 hits and qtip!
florduh
Well-Known Member
What's your resistance at for that TCR? I'm not complaining or anything. I also take my dabs dry so low temp is fine by me.