I ended up ordering a VapeXhale Cloud EVO unit. I figured I wanted that set-up to start with as my first desktop vape. And if I want to dabble in more vapes the Ditanium at this point looks to be the natural next choice... at a substantial savings. FWIW, I find it easier to spend the extra money on my first unit.... and down the road, at some point, a cheaper second unit is easier for me to justify and pick up
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Here were the details of the VapeXhale Cloud EVO purchase. (It was in the VapeXhale thread)
I ordered a VapeXhale Cloud Evo with the Christmas sale for my first desktop vape. I did a a lot of research, and it helped in my selections and add-ons. I went with the graphite (smoked) helio dry mouthpiece, a graphite (smoked) Precision Honeycomb hydratube (on backorder, expected in the next 10 or so business days), the seller included a basic whip at a big discount (with the two types of tubing), two more boro vapenails (I will be doing ultrasonic cleaning as recommended), four more ELBs (baskets), a cleaning kit and three tools/picks. After I pick up some cleaning solution I should be set for a while. I went with the new graphite (smoked) glass. I think it will help make the glass look less dirty inside from use. I'm considering the Evo station but I want to get my hands on the Vapexhale first and see how i end up using it. 420 is not that far down the road.
@SloJimFizz, thanks for all the feedback. It's my understanding from reviews that the EVO unit does a reasonably good temp for both dabs and flower on the unit, depending on preference. SneakyPete who loves the Ditanium also loved the EVO; he preferred running the EVO unit with both flower and concentrate at the same 12:00 position. A few others recommend on the EVO concentrates at the 1 o' clock position vs 12 o' clock for flower; Sheibo himself recommends the EVO that way too... and shows some very impressive vapor in this video (for what I would want/expect).
It's a really good video talking about temp settings for the EVO and how to use the unit.
In general, the EVO is likely a slightly lower temp concentrate dab unit and set-up compared to the setup of the Ditanium when both units are at the 12:00 position on their temp dials (with similar flower performance), considering the Ditanium titanium enail and core heater element and design. Still, the VapeXNail may not be too far off temp-wise as the boro/quartz tubes are designed to be deeper and sit lower in the chamber... closer to the heater element on the EVO than the herb chamber, so the design is explicit and specific to concentrate use (and I would guess somewhat optimized). The EVO appears to work fairly equivalently well to the Ditanium with flower at the same 12 o' clock setting according to the reviews I've been checking out. And for both concentrates and flower one simply increases the temp/knob to finish off the rest of the flower or concentrate at a higher temp. It sound similar to how I use my Crafty portable vape at this time. I like the sound of the EVO vape behavior overall. Now I need to get my hands on an EVO. And I'm perfectly fine with the analog temp selection set-up in both the EVO and Ditanium vapes. It's basically as effective as digital temp readouts, for me anyways.
I don't know what the cool down time of the EVO unit is. It may be out there and I'll see if I can find anything. I want to see what my experience will be; I'm sure I'll find something that works well for settings for all types of concentrate and flower use. In a back to back scenario of any concentrate, herb or combination,... as well as in scenarios where I get a reasonably short cool-down time when I go from high temp concentrate use to fresh flower use. IMO (since I'm new to the concentrate scene) that the 1 pm position is likely the highest I would want/need for a beginner. YMMV, and the unit is flexible. And I don't think switching the 1 pm position to 12 pm position from the fresh concentrate setting to the fresh flower setting is going to need much time for that cool-down in real world use.
No unit is perfect. I love the similar flexibility of flower and concentrate use in the Ditanium, but it will have to take some time to cool down when going from a regular flower temp setting down to a low temp dab setting; a titanium nail ceramic core setup takes a while to cool down. The Ditanium can do low temp dabs which is cool, but it will get dirty too.
As for back-to-back use, the EVO looks very promising. You can preload the glass/vapeXNnails and have many sitting beside you, waiting to be loaded into the EVO
. Many Youtube videos show people doing 10-20 different concentrates/terpins over an extended video, with them simply preloaded individually in a number of vapeXNails, and reporting the experience live. It only takes about 5 seconds to heat the bottom of the glass where the concentrate is when inserted into the EVO, and the glass can be picked up out and removed from the unit right after a big draw or 5. That's a very fast turnaround for using and reloading since one can simply load a new glass/vapeXNail which has been preloaded with more or another concentrate in it... and continue. One can also load the glass/vapeXNail with lots or little concentrate, depending on how many draws you want to have/share. Lots of options there. As well, one can have multiple ELBs/bowls of flower prepped, ready to go and on the side as well, which can be similarly popped into the unit on a moment's notice and pretty much immediately drawn upon. Good times and lots of good options imo
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So while simultaneous concentrate/flower use cannot be done in the EVO, immediate back to back flower and concentrate use can be done, and in any combination; I'm good with that and it will be entertaining. Technically one can load the ELB/basket with flower concentrate sandwich and make do with it. Some do. But the session and experience is a compromise that way compared to the Ditanium.
I went with 6 ELBs/baskets and 6 glass/vapeXNails that are immediately coming with the EVO vape, so I can easily set up a broad evening and be able to do a lot different things and options
, as well as lots of back to back with friends if I want/need to. The EVO looks to be very flexible and powerful, many reviewers say the heater element will keep up with any draw someone can throw at it.
With some luck I may be getting the EVO tomorrow. We'll see.
I'm still following this thread and vape, it's great to read and learn here
. I'm getting the EVO with a whip and if that use goes well, the Ditanium looks like a very nice future purchase. I don't know if I'm a whip man. 50/50 chance I say... so we'll see.
TL;DR
Ordered an EVO and it's arriving soon. Here's where I'm at on the EVO and Ditanium and why I'm here
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Keep reporting the Ditanium use and feedback all owners/users! And thx for it. Cheers
EDITS: multiple, Sorry.
I'm medicated and cleaning this up on the fly to make my post more clear.
Feel the urge to press my own to feed the Ditanium.
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