DDave Mod for SSV/ DBV/ LSV
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eideal852
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Welp. Here I go again. I had meant to come ask about the occasional "tick" sound when using the micro. (Maybe basket rim expanding?) but instead, I just noticed that my micro adapter has a crack along one side. All the way through the ground glass portion, stopping juuuuust at the lip of thicker clear glass. Shoot me. Seems to be working but just a matter of time I suppose. After dumb assing my first I was so gd careful too!
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CalyxSmokr
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Finally hooked my mods up to glass. Loving the 18mm mod connected to a 14mm female adapter on a 18mm male joint.
But using the micro 14mm connected to the same setup has far too much drag.
Do you all use the 14mm mod with glass? I can't see this resistance coming down enough to be comfortable. I am using 7th floor whip material on the 14mm mod rather than the DDave silicone but that shouldn't make this much difference, amirite?
But using the micro 14mm connected to the same setup has far too much drag.
Do you all use the 14mm mod with glass? I can't see this resistance coming down enough to be comfortable. I am using 7th floor whip material on the 14mm mod rather than the DDave silicone but that shouldn't make this much difference, amirite?
howie105
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I run an LSV using a dry stem 95% of the time and neither basket chokes the airflow too much. With water I have only used a D020D and a MF Orbiter. The Orbiter is definitely a bit draggy for my tastes but the D020D is OK.
delloy
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I still want one of these for my LSV but the shipping price to the UK is just too much @ $33.95 to make it worthwhile. Is there really no other way to send it cheaper, like just tossing it in a padded envelope wrapped in a bit of bubble wrap or similiar more eco friendly protective material. I ship items from the US on a regular basis 3 or 4 times the size of this as I collect art prints and they have never cost that much!
When I was still combusting (just over a year ago) I had a buddy in New York ship me over an Incredibowl as they don't deliver to the UK and that cost him/me only $16.74
When I was still combusting (just over a year ago) I had a buddy in New York ship me over an Incredibowl as they don't deliver to the UK and that cost him/me only $16.74
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CalyxSmokr
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Weird. Could it be the glass? This is what I am using.
Certainly not drag free but works OK with 18mm mod. But with mini-mod it is tiring. I wonder if it is the 14mm step down and the smaller mod...plus maybe the non-silicone tubing all add up.
Do I need to look for a drag free type piece? Will the usual suspects in the cheap bubbler thread suffice?
Certainly not drag free but works OK with 18mm mod. But with mini-mod it is tiring. I wonder if it is the 14mm step down and the smaller mod...plus maybe the non-silicone tubing all add up.
Do I need to look for a drag free type piece? Will the usual suspects in the cheap bubbler thread suffice?
Weird. Could it be the glass? This is what I am using.
Certainly not drag free but works OK with 18mm mod. But with mini-mod it is tiring. I wonder if it is the 14mm step down and the smaller mod...plus maybe the non-silicone tubing all add up.
Do I need to look for a drag free type piece? Will the usual suspects in the cheap bubbler thread suffice?
Nice piece!
Narrow down the issue by trying a dry hit. No herb loaded in the 14mm basket or adapter. See if the drag persists.
CalyxSmokr
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I will make sure tonite but the 14 is all I was using and seemed very comfortable. I like the small bowl size and hadn't noticed anything.
Do you sell replacement parts? Because I could use a few odds and ends plus silicone. Trying to decide whether to move waterpipe adapters to 18mm only.
I have one more piece that might have less drag and will experiment.
I don't like it because it has to be held very level or the percs are bypassed. More for an enail
Cool, look forward to hearing back on testing.I will make sure tonite but the 14 is all I was using and seemed very comfortable. I like the small bowl size and hadn't noticed anything.
Do you sell replacement parts? Because I could use a few odds and ends plus silicone. Trying to decide whether to move waterpipe adapters to 18mm only.
I have one more piece that might have less drag and will experiment.
I don't like it because it has to be held very level or the percs are bypassed. More for an enail
Replacement parts, absolutely. PM me with what you need.
CalyxSmokr
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OK so it isn't the glass or the whip. It is just the screen that restricts it enough to make clearing the glass tedious. A carb fitting would solve it. A carb in the side of the mini-mod would be ultimate.
But yeah it is flowing fine until I insert the packed screen. And it is going great for vapor production - just needs a way to clear the whip and glass easily.
But yeah it is flowing fine until I insert the packed screen. And it is going great for vapor production - just needs a way to clear the whip and glass easily.
Thanks for testing! Have two suggestions, well one and second is part suggestion part question..
* Grind... in the 14mm Basket screens, the finer the grind, the more resistance. Can you try a much courser grind or throw in a single mini nug? (The mini-nug whole vape method introduced by @stickstones is awesome as flavor is amazing! You'll still find you're able to get good extraction as well).
* If it's clearing the glass and you're using my whip-water tool adapter, can you lift that end from the female connection on the water tool and clear in that manner? That is the portion I lift to clear my glass.
Apologies for the delay. Investigating international shipping options is extensive and tedious.@DDave I think I might have to go via the route of my buddy in New York as I seem to be getting no response to my post above
A padded envelope offers little, if no protection to the pieces of the kit. If I shipped this way, there is no way I could hope for safe delivery.
Idea? Have you got a friend interested in a kit as well? If I can combine kits and ship safely, I definitely do... and that way you could cut your shipping costs in half.
delloy
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@DDave Thanks for the reply. Appreciated. 
Unfortunately I haven't. I'm really the only person I know into vaping in a big way in my area. All combusters, apart from one member, who I found out lives just 10 miles from me who I met up with a few weeks back and had a great evening with sampling some premium afghan/big bud.
I will say though I recently had a couple of GONGs shipped from China in just a padded envelope and they arrived just fine.
Unfortunately I haven't. I'm really the only person I know into vaping in a big way in my area. All combusters, apart from one member, who I found out lives just 10 miles from me who I met up with a few weeks back and had a great evening with sampling some premium afghan/big bud.
I will say though I recently had a couple of GONGs shipped from China in just a padded envelope and they arrived just fine.
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CalyxSmokr
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Will try the coarser grind and nug and see if that helps. I am able to clear the glass by pulling the adapter out...it just gets complicated as I am sure you know. A carb fitting there would work too but I am thinking if I want to hold my finger there to take a hit also.
It is seeming like using the 18mm mod is just easier with glass...but I will see with this mini-nug. I noticed the empty screen inserted increased resistance but not as much as the packed screen.
I like it!I started trying this out for an all-glass direct draw.
-Ddave LSV mod M2M
-Overpriced J-hook from local shop
Works pretty dang well and avoids the spillage/unintentional heating when I used the LSV heater cover.
And this had me laughing!
Raskin666
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That will work, but my original MiniELB was made with 1 dome screen, and 1 elb cap that had been manipulated a bit. You won't get the same effectiveness IMO without the cap being inverted like I explain below...You have the correct dome screens linked though!
"Here are some pictures...
In the picture above, the top two squares show a regular ELB cap and the bottom two show an Extreme Q Elbow screen. Notice how the diameter of the steel rim of both bowls is the same, but the EQ elbow screen is slightly larger in its capacity, due to design.
In the picture above, the left hand side shows a regular ELB cap on top, and on the bottom, the ELB cap that I inverted with the sharpie. The pictures on the right hand side show the inverted cap as well. To get the cap to look like this, set it upside down like the cap in the top left of the above picture, and take the end (not the end with the cap) of a sharpie, and push down in the center firmly. You can push and mold the edges to fit into the EQ elbow screen better.
There are three reasons for inverting the cap the way that I did.
1, it makes the cap more shallow, so it doesn't push as far into the bowl(EQ elbow screen) leaving room for medicine. you can't really pack meds in the EQ elbow screen, and put the cap in, unless the cap is inverted like shown above.
2, it leaves room, so you can pack a shallow bowl, as shown below, or a full bowl, as the medicine can go up into the underside of the cap.
3, it makes the caps diameter slightly larger, allowing it to fit snugly into the bowl (EQ elbow screen)...it won't stay in the bowl at all otherwise.
In the picture above, you can see the assembled Mini-ELB (EQ elbow screen+mangled/inverted ELBcap) with a regular ELB/caps for comparison.
And in this final picture, above, you can see the MiniELB loaded, and in the Cloud." - MiniELB Tech
Edit*** I just realized that @SlinginPaint's post was in reply to @2 Paces saying there are no ELBs available anywhere...So, my reply, saying you should make the MiniELB with a dome screen and ELB cap is kind of non applicable. So, to anyone in need of a bowl now, and not in possession of any regular ELBs/caps, do as @SlinginPaint suggested, and manipulate the two dome screens to fit together. Possibly following the tech I posted, but using the two dome screens instead of 1 dome/1 cap, one might get the same results!
Another alternative, that won't produce quite the same results, where the herb is farther from the heater and no longer enclosed in a ELB like stainless mesh bowl...is @vtac's All Glass Bowl solution! (quoted below...expand it for the pics!)
Inspired by this post, I did some tinkering.
I have been looking into some Evo ELBs because I am one of those people who hates it when material falls into the LSV. If using dry, I tip it to start, then tip it to finish. I mainly use LSV with waterpipes.
I tried to replicate this "mini ELB" thing above using Ddave mod screens, both 14mm micro and the regular 18mm Ddave LSV mod screen.
Ingredients:
2x Ddave Micro Mod screens
2x 18mm Ddave LSV Mod screens
1x 14mm M2M
1x Ddave 14/18 reducer
1x Junky 14/18 reducer I use in my makeshift vaporlung
1x Return of the overpriced J-hook from local shop!
14mm Micro mod screen:
This one worked, but the whole contraption was loose. The results were a little uneven, but no spill, and still hit. I kinda mangled the "cap" screen, but still worked.
Now the 18mm Ddave LSV Mod screen in a different M2M. This setup did really well and hit like a boss, pretty good ABV, too. This truly did make this a lay back on the couch kind of vape, very nice. Though a little hot for my water-spoiled lungs.
@DDave Things I would pay money for:
1. Short/stubby baskets slightly smaller than both sizes of Ddave Mod screens, to serve as caps for the Ddave Mini ELB (R, C, TM, All Rights Reserved), finally idiotproofing the LSV.
2. Metered air flow 14mm Male to 18mm Male, with the 18/14 reducer, to create the Ddave LSV Micro Mod (#suemeDdave)
(this could also be used with a watertool or hydrothing)
Keep up the good work, Ddave, love your kits!
Didn't they show this as a preview just before "Return of the Swamp Thing"?
This one had me laughing again!
I like what you've done.
Your input is valued and I've been working on something similar. Well, with everything except the JHook.
you got me with that one... laughing again... 
CalyxSmokr
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The nuglet did not work too well with me. Maybe if I split it into 2. I got no vapor at first and then only good production when I crushed it a little and the draw resistance came back. Love the mini-mod for dry hits but find the full size the only one that works well with water tools. Will try the coarse grind soon.
CalyxSmokr
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I use the minimod with water everyday, but it requires a different draw tech
CalyxSmokr
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I think that is key. The problem is mainly clearing the glass and whip
@DDave : by chance do you have a 14 male/18 male adapter so we can use the basket screen on a 14 female fitting?
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