Davinci by Karma

[Ape With A Vape]

My replacement is defective. I have left it on the charger for over 12 hours and it is still showing it is charging. I called Jessica and she said it's not a problem, but it obviously is. How do I know when my unit is fully charged then? Should I just leave it on for 3 hours?

EDIT: I'm feeling like I've been ripped off

 

[OF]

How do I know when my unit is fully charged then?

Unplug it and turn it on. If you get all four bars, it's charged. Then turn the heater on, you might or might not go to 3 bars right away when the battery sags under the load.

OF

 

[Ape With A Vape]

Would you not consider this a defect though? I should be able to know when my unit is fully charged. I sersiously love the DaVinci but these defects are just crazy. If I hit the heat button it goes down to 2 bars

EDIT: it says 4 bars when I take it off the charger, then goes to 2 bars when I turn the heater on, then goes back up to 3 when I turn the heater immediately off

 

[Dreamerr]

I would demand a new one yet again and tell them to check it first before mailing.

 

[OF]

Would you not consider this a defect though? I should be able to know when my unit is fully charged. I sersiously love the DaVinci but these defects are just crazy. If I hit the heat button it goes down to 2 bars

EDIT: it says 4 bars when I take it off the charger, then goes to 2 bars when I turn the heater on, then goes back up to 3 when I turn the heater immediately off

That does not sound like a (as yet) fully charged battery. Brand new batteries of this type can be cranky until 'fully formed' in complete charging. If it were mine I'd try cycling it a few times, you have a benchmark to work against now, to see if it improves before sending it back. I'd use if for a bowl or two then charge it up again a few times first.

That is getting it to drop to only 3 bars or go back to four after turning off is progress.

I would demand a new one yet again and tell them to check it first before mailing.

An option worth considering for sure, but I'd ask them to check it out. How do you like to be told what to do by irate folks you don't know? Most don't and you want their cooperation. Just a thought.....

OF

 

[Dreamerr]

Ah that was just my east coast talk...I would ask very nicely. I always do and normally get great service because of it.

Yea I am with OF on using, charging, using charging and see if that helps first.

 

[vorrange]

Would you not consider this a defect though? I should be able to know when my unit is fully charged. I sersiously love the DaVinci but these defects are just crazy. If I hit the heat button it goes down to 2 bars

EDIT: it says 4 bars when I take it off the charger, then goes to 2 bars when I turn the heater on, then goes back up to 3 when I turn the heater immediately off

One other thing to consider is that while heating there is an added need for power, hence the 2 bars since if you were always making that kind of stress on the battery it will drain quicker. After it reaches temp and stabilizes, the software will adjust accordingly to the new rate of discharge.

 

[Ape With A Vape]

Jessica told me to see how long the battery last today and report it back to her.


EDIT: Then once it dies, I'll try again to see if there is any improvements in charge time and battery life/function

 

[zomger]

Jessica told me to see how long the battery last today and report it back to her.


EDIT: Then once it dies, I'll try again to see if there is any improvements in charge time and battery life/function

Yes, this. I was going to say this. If you get 5+ uses out of it running it 375-385 for full cycles, personally I dont think it'd bother me too much cause I know the battery is charging to full, the unit just has a bit of a electronic defect. As long as you know how low the battery is getting (sounds like that's fine) then it's easy to determine how long it needs to charge. On the last bar? Charge 3 hours. Two bars, 2 hours and 3 bars charge for 1 hour should be accurate enough.

 

[djonkoman]

I received my da vinci today(won in that recent contest), it's on the charger now.
first impression is that it looks really well, like a good quality electronic gadget and it also has a bit of weight, size is good, I expected it a little bigger actually(I've only seen iphones from a distance a few times, and don't use/own a smartphone myself, so the description that it's like 2 iphones stacked didn't do much for me)
one thing though, I read people saying on here that while charging the baterypic cycles between bars or so, but mine just shows 4 bars from the moment I plugged it in and switched it on
amnyway I'll wait the 3 hours before I'll do any testing.

I can't detect any smell on the unit(or straw) so far in it's un-heated state, only a very faint smell in the bottom compartment of the box, but so faint I can only detect that there is a small but not what it smells like. (also opened the lid of the unit and stuck my nose up there, no smell there either)
but my sense of smell isn't very good, and I just recovered from a cold, so it could just be me, but if it does have a smell it can't be very strong.

oh btw, I also got a cool t-shirt.
looking at my charging unit I was wondering what the logo's on the bottom mean? haven't read it in this thread so far, the 2 logo's I'm wondering about:
1 is a nike-like v in a peace/roman/leaf circle(you know, that leafcircle with 2 twigs with round leaves joining at the bottom, a little room between the tops at the top)
the other is an F and after that a C inside another C
both of these logo's I've never seen before(the other 2 logo's I do recognise, 4 logo's in total on the bottom)

edit: the first logo I described has some tiny letters under the v, wich I couldn't read at first but I just got an idea and checked again with a jewelers loupe, and it turns out the tiny letters say ROHS. so that clears up at least where that logo is about.

it's now 3 hours later, doing a burn-in while still in the charger. with the heater on it jumpped to 2 bars pretty quickly, after a while it began alternating between 2 and 3 and it's still doing that.
I did observe the mystery vapor, and sniffed it and I did clearly smell it, a burn-smell. it's only a thin wisp, but I can see it under the right light. but if I open the hinge I can't see any mystery vapor anymore, if I close it again there is nothing the first few seconds then it starts coming out of the hole again.
now after typing this I checked again and it's almost gone, altough I can still see a very faint wisp. it still smells(with my nose directly above the hole).
that was at 200 degrees(celsius) btw, now just started the 2nd cycle

 

[Malkarion]

Damn, I was so close to buying an Arizer Solo and then I stumbled about the DV.
After reading a lot in this thread I think the DV would suit my needs fine.

Here ist how I medicate so far:

During the week about 3-4 spoon pipes per evening, with about 2 hours in between.
During the weekend about 6-8 spoon pipes per day, with about 2 hours in between.
I only smoke outside and would only vape outside (kids in the house)
*Edit* I mostly smoke herb but I love making my own oil and bubble/hash too.

I also found out about the INH in this thread and that one seems interesting too but isn't readily available here in Germany. I really like that the DV is quite a bit stealthier than the Solo for example.

Is the refilling process really such a hassle? That lid seems to be a major annoyance?! With the way I medicate, do you think I will be happy with the DV? I already quit tobacco more than a year ago which also gave me a "healthier" feel and I definetly enjoy the effects more without the nicotin. Does the DV work well with Oil and Hash?

I have never vaped before but I really want to get away from smoking and since I usually tend to overthink everything it takes ages to make a decision. And by then a new Vaporizer is out on the market and I start again at the beginning.

 

[max]

Is the refilling process really such a hassle?

Not to me. I do like to blow out the chamber if I have a can of air handy, or stick a brush in to get rid of clinging bits of herb, but it's not a big deal IMO. For the most part I can just tap out the ABV and reload.

That lid seems to be a major annoyance?!

It's manageable, just not ideal.

With the way I medicate, do you think I will be happy with the DV?

Nobody can give you any more than a guess on that. I like this model for portable use and have even used it inside a few times, but people have different preferences and expectations.

 

[GreenRoom]

Hey Malkarion!
I have about the same medication routine and the Davinci is my new best friend. Haven't combusted since I've gotten it, about 2 weeks ago. At first my reaction to the lid was 'are they f*cking kidding me?!", but I've gotten used to it. Filling isn't the problem, emptying it is a bit of a hassle. But as long as you don't pack the grinds down too hard, a quick stir with the back end of the brush and dump does the trick. It's annoying, but not a 'major annoyance'. Also, it's easier to fill the oven if you keep the storage compartment stocked with fine grinds and just use the back end of the brush to transfer into the oven.
If you've never vaped before you are certainly in for a treat. You won't get that 'dirty' feeling in your head and chest that makes the following bowls less enjoyable.
I was in the same boat as you too that by the time I make a decision, another unit is on the market. But fear not, they always need design tweaks so you're better off waiting anyway.

 

[mvapes]

With the lid I agree with most here - is it perfect? No, but in reality once you get used to it its not all that bad. The way I do it is I grind my herb and pour it onto a small piece of paper, I then fold the paper like a funnel and pour my weed into the DV. As for unloading the trick is to do it warm - if you just tap it on the side when your done with your session most of the cooked herbs will fall right out. I then take the brush it comes with and swish around the chamber and the rest should fall out too. I have NEVER had any issues cleaning the DV. IMO a removable lid would be better but its still a great device.

 

[vorrange]

Damn, I was so close to buying an Arizer Solo and then I stumbled about the DV.
After reading a lot in this thread I think the DV would suit my needs fine.

Here ist how I medicate so far:

During the week about 3-4 spoon pipes per evening, with about 2 hours in between.
During the weekend about 6-8 spoon pipes per day, with about 2 hours in between.
I only smoke outside and would only vape outside (kids in the house)
*Edit* I mostly smoke herb but I love making my own oil and bubble/hash too.

I also found out about the INH in this thread and that one seems interesting too but isn't readily available here in Germany. I really like that the DV is quite a bit stealthier than the Solo for example.

Is the refilling process really such a hassle? That lid seems to be a major annoyance?! With the way I medicate, do you think I will be happy with the DV? I already quit tobacco more than a year ago which also gave me a "healthier" feel and I definetly enjoy the effects more without the nicotin. Does the DV work well with Oil and Hash?

I have never vaped before but I really want to get away from smoking and since I usually tend to overthink everything it takes ages to make a decision. And by then a new Vaporizer is out on the market and I start again at the beginning.

The INH is available or it will be at www.lacentralevapeur.com , don't know what you meant by readily available so you can always try them. I must warn you though, that the INH might not be the best for bubble/hash. The better option for that is the Solo.

The DV has an oil can though that should work okay.. from the reports of people who tried it there are improvements to be made still and i think someone as already applied some minor fixes to the oil can process.

Between the DV and the Solo, the biggest difference between them IMO, is that the Solo has the better taste and the DV has the better stealth, this according to my own preferences in a vaporizer of course.

I could not tell from your post, if you were going to use it much outside the house, in a public venue. I think that might be the decisive factor here.

 

[Dreamerr]

Here is my two cents. I don't take the DV out of the house much anymore because of the lid. I like fast loading and unloading and to me the lid is a pain in the ass. As some said unloading isn't as bad but you have to bang the bottom, or at least I do, to get it out with needing a stir sometimes depending on your grind. The new DV will fix the lid issue if you want to wait.

Max I never thought of using an air can that is so smart. I have plenty of them in the house and will now put them to use for my vapes.

As vorrange said if you aren't going to use it out I would get the solo although they are very different. The bubble hash and flexibility of the solo would be better if you are using it around the house.

I like both for different reasons and for different uses. If you do like oils and concentrates DV is for you.

The issue is if you want to wait you would have to see how long it will be before the new one comes out. My guess is not to long. If you want to save money they are selling the old DV cheap because of the new one coming out.

 

[djonkoman]

I have vaped my first loadtrough the DV now. battery lasted only 1 session, when heating up for the 2nd it was empty just a few degrees before the set temp. but, this was outside, and it's freezing here now(and there is snow), also I had just done a few burn-in runs while it was still on the charger before going on my trip outside, I shut it off during the 3rd cycle and immediatly took it off the charger and into my pocket.
now it's on the charger again, and this time it does show a cycling battery.
the smell was still present when I took it iff the charger when I left home, but I only noticed the sweet taste of cannabis during my session with it.
I had loaded it before leaving home, so it was just a matter of touching some buttons, wait a while and I could hit it. got huge clouds, but with these temps outside every hit from a vaporizer is a cloud. I started at a lower temp and moved up, in increments of 10 degrees and the heating for that was very quick, about the time it took to twist the cap off my bottle of water. the heating at the start of a session is a bit longer ofcourse, but very managable.
at home, on the charger, I finished the load off but it was pretty much finished, only 1-2 wisps. abv had a nice even brown color, finisjed it at 205 degrees celsius(started at 180)

I am now going to search if there is something in this thread about hash in the DV(and if I say hash I'm talking about hash, like drysieve+pressed and handrolled/rubbed, not hashoil), if not I'm just going to experiment a bit with the oilcans.

 

[OF]

Glad to hear you're getting it going. Keep an eye on the charging and battery life. I'd expect it to become stable in a dozen or less cycles.

I run a fair bit of bubble hash through mine, basically what you want I think? To be sure I didn't have any fall down into the works I put a small pad (1/8 inch or a bit more) of the material from the Volcano concentrate pad in the bottom first.

It works quite well, but you need about 10 degrees F more heat.

OF

 

[djonkoman]

I tried some hash(nepal) in an empty oilcan, worked pretty well at max. temp (207 degrees celsius, as I couldn't get it to go higher as that)
not as dense/much as with hash in my UD, but still it vapes pretty nicely

but now I have filled it with weed again. now with this 2nd time charging it just behaved like it should, cycling battery and 4 not-cycling bars when it was full, after about 3 hours. after my last session, wich was after I had removed the charger, it was still showing 4 bars after I shut the heater off.

 

[Dreamerr]

What that doesn't sound right. Four bars after using it...it usually drops one right away and then stays for a long time. The battery does last long however which is a big plus for the DV.

BTW I have nothing on my DV except its name but I did get it back when they released it originally. I don't have any logos or anything. No model number nothing.

 

[OF]

What that doesn't sound right. Four bars after using it...it usually drops one right away and then stays for a long time.

Mine does sometimes, if the session is short and the charge full. Going between 3 and 4 bars with the heater cycling is common. Four bars when the heater is off.

I would not be concerned about 'too much battery capacity'.

OF

 

[Dreamerr]

Yes mine does that as well but not after 3 hours unless I read the post wrong. You are correct maybe there was only five minutes of use but I didn't read it that way. I hardly ever stop before a full ten minute session so mine after one session a full charge will either be on four or bounce between three and four as you said. Now if it is still on four after three hours I want one of those batteries. The DV has one of the best battery life to me. I think it may even beat out my INH.

 

[Davinci_vaporizer]

looking at my charging unit I was wondering what the logo's on the bottom mean? haven't read it in this thread so far, the 2 logo's I'm wondering about:
1 is a nike-like v in a peace/roman/leaf circle(you know, that leafcircle with 2 twigs with round leaves joining at the bottom, a little room between the tops at the top)
the other is an F and after that a C inside another C
both of these logo's I've never seen before(the other 2 logo's I do recognise, 4 logo's in total on the bottom)

edit: the first logo I described has some tiny letters under the v, wich I couldn't read at first but I just got an idea and checked again with a jewelers loupe, and it turns out the tiny letters say ROHS. so that clears up at least where that logo is about.

The little logo's on the bottom on the DaVinci show that they are certified in multiple aspects. I'm surprised (not really), that everyone doesn't do this.

CE- means it conforms to the EU regulations for goods. We had these tests done by 3rd parties.
FCC- is testing the electronics for US and Canada
RoHs- (the leafy symbol) Any RoHS compliant component is tested for the presence of Lead (Pb), Cadmium (Cd), Mercury (Hg), Hexavalent chromium (Hex-Cr), Polybrominated biphenyls (PBB), and Polybrominated diphenyl ethers (PBDE).
There is also a little trash can with a X through it..which means don't throw this in the trash because it contains batteries.

Our Australian chargers are even SAA and C-Tick approved, we tried to play by the book here.

Note that some of the earlier models didn't have the logo's engraved and we were still waiting for the CE certification to be completed..which took about 3 months to complete.

 

[Dreamerr]

Kewl to know DV but mine is clean and has absolutely nothing on it. I got it from vapeworld so I believe it is real. I got it right after your released them I believe. Vapeworld had not had them long when I bought it. Where there early ones that had no logos? I guess it doesn't matter since it works but now I am curious.

 

[Davinci_vaporizer]

Hi Dreamerr,

Yeah, the first ones released didn't have any certification logos..or even serial numbers for that matter. You probably even had the tin box, right! We added the logos later to be EU compliant. I've never heard of any knock off DV's entering the market, so I'm sure yours is fine.