Dani Fusion by Battery-free Ganz

[Sativapo]

Based on personal use and gunk pattern from it I would imagine it's directly related to the volume of product you feed through it and how fast you gunk up will be more a reflection of that than anything else

A longer stem with a carb cap might have a spiral that gets dirty more slowly but only because there's more space for gunk to build up in the longer stem.

This. Also high temp close to combustion cloggs things faster. ( more heavy stuff flying).
I like the metal stem I got 2 days ago I feel it gives a more powerful/ steady feel in hand and helps a bit with the long convection draws being longer. Shorty performance is close though and metal feels hotter to the hand especially after consecutive longer wand heating.
I don't like the carb though I only use it pulling my finger when I heated more than wanted/ too toasty when still fresh, to mix some fresh air.
Glass one has the best taste but already a dent on mine.

 

[2pumpchump]

Do you think it would get less dirty if it had a carb hole?

Based on personal use and gunk pattern from it I would imagine it's directly related to the volume of product you feed through it and how fast you gunk up will be more a reflection of that than anything else

A longer stem with a carb cap might have a spiral that gets dirty more slowly but only because there's more space for gunk to build up in the longer stem.

Exactly except in my case no matter the length bore size or twist rate the carb will make mine look worse due to dust in the air sticking to res in it
Edit
Also if you want the most convection try full open air flow heat the stainless steel ring at the top close to the clicker 15 to 20 seconds for me past the click try to find your spot as not only you torch and flame but wear you dip it as well lol

 

[leanpubpackage]

Use a 3/8 SS mesh screen instead of the CCD. It friction fits perfectly and doesn’t clog as easily

 

[2pumpchump]

OK so the loosens budged me so I measured the bore on my metal stem is slightly bigger than the shorty.. but the interesting thing is believe it or not the FUSION is actually larger diameter I have not pulled orings I am suspecting @batteryfreeganz cut the oring groves deeper to keep from pinching they give us what we ask for then we complain . I'm not sad to say that trying it on different stems takes a bit because of the options for ways too vape it but all have their strong points some of which depends on your vape stile.
Ps also still trying to find my sweet spot on both ends and trying to get used to mouth to lung hits as well not that it has to be used for that but trying it on lol

 

[Alligator427]

I tried to heat just below the lowest silver ring, like some did here, and that change a lot : the hits are really more consistant and powerfull for the amount of "plant". Maybe I will try again with bubbler.

 

[oddjobold]

Okay a few more goes on my Dani's.

The fusion is much better if you aim at the bottom of the cap, before the first band, diagonally upwards. I think these separate silver bands are kinda pointless. Taste is best out of all 3 danis.

I tried the Ti v3. I did 5 past the click like my SS. It cleared the bowl in one. Was not expecting that. Next time I will heat less. The airflow adjustment is a bit hit and miss, and hard to adjust mid session.

On my SS I can heat 5 past the click and keep puffing for a while. 2nd heat only needs to heat to the click. The heat lasts a lot longer. This is more my style.

I feel like I need to refine my technique on the TI and the fusion. It's early days yet.

However so far I like my SS the best by a wisker (maybe because I am used to it?), then fusion, then TI. I think this will change once my technique is refined.

Kinda fun getting to know how each works.

 

[2pumpchump]

Okay a few more goes on my Dani's.

The fusion is much better if you aim at the bottom of the cap, before the first band, diagonally upwards. I think these separate silver bands are kinda pointless. Taste is best out of all 3 danis.

I tried the Ti v3. I did 5 past the click like my SS. It cleared the bowl in one. Was not expecting that. Next time I will heat less. The airflow adjustment is a bit hit and miss, and hard to adjust mid session.

On my SS I can heat 5 past the click and keep puffing for a while. 2nd heat only needs to heat to the click. The heat lasts a lot longer. This is more my style.

I feel like I need to refine my technique on the TI and the fusion. It's early days yet.

However so far I like my SS the best by a wisker (maybe because I am used to it?), then fusion, then TI. I think this will change once my technique is refined.

Kinda fun getting to know how each works.

i agree i mean if it did have a new learning curve of some point then did any thing change ?
with a bubbler im finding slow long draws on it best for me faster draws seem to out run the cap having less mas then the v3 ..witch i love for my EDC lighter and can be touched quicker mine is in the wash right now fixing to try as much convection as i can so start clean for flavor test

 

[RitualBasedExtraction]

Tonight I started to become more conscious of how varying torch sizes and their different heat up times effect the conduction/convection ratio. When using a big blazer I'm able to get a click in under 10 seconds and go past it about 3-5 for a full extraction, however, the very outer edge of these bowls is always slightly less cashed than the middle. On the other hand, when using a slightly smaller torch with 20 seconds to click and around 10 past, this cashes the entire bowl (edges included). I feel as if the quick heat up of a blazer torch confines most of the heat to the cap leading to a convection experience whereas a smaller torch with a longer heat up allows the heat to sink into both the cap and the bowl leading to a hybrid experience. Being aware of this has made it easier to really dial in my vapor consistency/temp depending on the time and situation in my experience. Love how much control BFG gives the user with this one.

 

[StinKing]

works with vhb 3d 3s ?

I use mine with the VHB 3d all day. The VHB comes with a little glass bowl that you have to take out to get the Fusion to fit. 5 seconds after click for light brown avb with a good amount of vapor and great taste. 10ish seconds after click for lots of vapor and dark AVB. I usually only go for the 10 seconds method when I'm using a water piece to help with the hot vapor.

My only complaint about the VHB 3d with the Fusion is that when I sit the Fusion down into IH to heat up, the cap sits right on a nub and I find that this mutes the click, making it very hard to hear. I've come close to combustion once or twice due to this. I now hold it slightly above the nub while heating to make the click more audible, which is a little bit of a hassle due to going from one hand heating to two.

 

[2pumpchump]

Tonight I started to become more conscious of how varying torch sizes and their different heat up times effect the conduction/convection ratio. When using a big blazer I'm able to get a click in under 10 seconds and go past it about 3-5 for a full extraction, however, the very outer edge of these bowls is always slightly less cashed than the middle. On the other hand, when using a slightly smaller torch with 20 seconds to click and around 10 past, this cashes the entire bowl (edges included). I feel as if the quick heat up of a blazer torch confines most of the heat to the cap leading to a convection experience whereas a smaller torch with a longer heat up allows the heat to sink into both the cap and the bowl leading to a hybrid experience. Being aware of this has made it easier to really dial in my vapor consistency/temp depending on the time and situation in my experience. Love how much control BFG gives the user with this one.

Lol when I was waiting for mine and everyone was trying to get more hybrid out of it I said I was going to keep my heating thought to myself till I had mine in hand..
But I did drop a hint by asking Who won the race the tortoise or the hair!

 

[RitualBasedExtraction]

Lol when I was waiting for mine and everyone was trying to get more hybrid out of it I said I was going to keep my heating thought to myself till I had mine in hand..
But I did drop a hint by asking Who won the race the tortoise or the hair!

Your understanding of thermodynamics is reputable big ups

 

[Sativapo]

Indeed with a really big torch it's definitely more convection than conduction. The proof is 4-5 seconfs after click when you draw just a little it gives almost no vapor and a big cloud if you draw steady a few consecutive seconds. Except if you heat to much. Also a partially restricted airflow like half a hole helps with this. With a smaller torch or flame it has anyway more time to conduct to the bowl. Very versatile, really like it.

This was above my expectations for the convection part.

I think the 2 rings is a really good idea in theory and for aesthetics, but it would be very nice for terpy hits if the click was set a bit higher. But I now understand also the click not being set too high for the cool down as with the right convection technique I can get a pull of light vapor even after the cool down click unlike a vapcap.

Also like someone said before once you hear the click it can be good to heat the upper ring for the remaining secs it maybe gives more convection.

 

[2pumpchump]

@batteryfreeganz pulled this one out of your play book ... HAY NO RULES!!!!
But as I remembered the instructions for the v3 it hit me that the split ring is also for different heat settings.. so I went to check my facts ..
I'm sure with the extmley superb machine work are capable of making a 2 peace adapter kit that adapte the head to 8 mm stems and 1 to adapt Dani stems to a a 8 mm tip.
I would buy it next order!
I'm working in 1 now that will work with a Omni condenser but don't have any of the no nice old stems it was all ready halfway made and might come in handy..
I have been running over size o rings on other tips on the metal stem and love it !
SPEAKING OF O RINGS !!! I believe instead if using 8×1 on the tip cutting the groves deeper and wider using 7x2 o ring s I believe this will help with o rings rolling, getting pinched , and would help heat transfer what do you guys think?
Us seller has had it posted as advance pre order shortly after seeing this tread no price or picks no picks but a price listed on it at 140 145 for a base model prob don't remember so im guessing 160 max us $ for every bell and whistle with a bad ass color believe I'm seeing that every 1 is pre order those who are looking at getting your first BFG vaporizers the Fusion is definitely worth the price and wait as only keeping up with them since I became a FC member but I would bet they want be long but if can't stand the wait grab a a v3T IH model on a budget grab a base v3 around the same price as a M .. I honestly don't understand why BFG is not talked about more they are amazing and on their toes to please use with performance upgrades not just teas us with looks!

Your understanding of thermodynamics is reputable big ups

Don't go making my head swell it's polen season it all ready feels like it might explode lol
I'm just a Pyromaniac that loves burning things including metal...
But if I am reading the instructions correctly anything except the bottom ring is expected for at least 5 seconds after the click . And that's on top of the forgiveness BFG gave us on the click time note torch size is only part of all this as well as the flame size for that same torch can have different heat characteristics as the cone to bubble Ratio changes as you cut the torch flame higher past a certain point and when we say a 1inc flame are meaning the cone or are you including the bubble. I will come back to torches and flame in a minute the reason for the lower temperature click is to compsate for the Time it takes for the heat to transfer trugh the metal this is also the reason for splitting the silver ring in 2 heat travels tough silver quicker than SS the splitting of the 2 silver ring is to allow a heat brake so if you are heating the upper part of the cap heat doses not travel to the bottom of the cap as quickly. Back to torches I normally use a medium size torch running around a 2 to 3 inch flame that is somwear around 1.5 inch cone how ever with one I have modified that runs a bit more lean same 1.5 inch cone but flame might be 2 inches @batteryfreeganz cover your ears for the next part .... and dip it all in the cone i have seen the bottom of my cap glowing in low light b4 my cap even clicked . No that was not how I acadently combusted that 1 time lol but back to my normal torch for my hybrid experience running 2 to 3 inch overall flame with all open airports heat the very bottom of cap dipped all in the cone of the flame heat till click then hit repeat I get around 3 cycles. I have been playing with the convection end right now I'm liking heat the top of the cap same way but 10 or so past the click same repeat about 3 times not pushing past the click as far . For conduction block off 1 set of airports heat at very bottom not all up on my torch like my cap picked on me in the 3rd grade like the other 2 way till click ... I have not done a 1 heat extraction yet ...
So for those that are how much you packing in this baby? my ⚖ mess up the other day but got new pare yesterday .

 

[redeyemaster]

I'm not at all objecting to adjusting when the click happens; but honestly I don't have a problem with it at all.

It gives me a reference point for heat timing and that's really all I need to glean how fast I am heating and when I need to stop.

But I have no problem recognizing that's me and I've already got a pretty good inclination on timing between being a musician and years of practice with other butane vapes; not everyone will share my opinion and would prefer the clicks to be closer to the best temp spots for consistency.

 

[seriousTone]

I caved and found a small bag of pure shellac flakes for a nice price.

Melted some down with a woodburning knife and smeared it in the carb hole.

Might sand down to make look perfect but I have 600 grit sandpaper and idk if the stem is sanded finer than that so don't want to ruin the finish.

https://imgur.com/a/QPMNyJ2

 

[2pumpchump]

I caved and found a small bag of pure shellac flakes for a nice price.

Melted some down with a woodburning knife and smeared it in the carb hole.

Might sand down to make look perfect but I have 600 grit sandpaper and idk if the stem is sanded finer than that so don't want to ruin the finish.

https://imgur.com/a/QPMNyJ2

Love it get you a cheap dusted Is fingernail file and the Variety pack of 3M wet sand paper I think it comes with 800 through 2000 grit

 

[RitualBasedExtraction]

dip it all in the cone i have seen the bottom of my cap glowing in low light b4 my cap even clicked . No that was not how I acadently combusted that 1 time lol but back to my normal torch for my hybrid experience running 2 to 3 inch overall flame with all open airports heat the very bottom of cap dipped all in the cone of the flame heat till click then hit repeat I get around 3 cycles. I have been playing with the convection end right now I'm liking heat the top of the cap same way but 10 or so past the click same repeat about 3 times not pushing past the click as far . For conduction block off 1 set of airports heat at very bottom not all up on my torch like my cap picked on me in the 3rd grade like the other 2 way till click ...

Crazy good insight right here, will be coming back to this over the next few days to perfect my big torch use on the Fusion. P.S. Bubble/cone ratio should be brought up more in butane vape threads.

 

[RitualBasedExtraction]

I'm not at all objecting to adjusting when the click happens; but honestly I don't have a problem with it at all.

It gives me a reference point for heat timing and that's really all I need to glean how fast I am heating and when I need to stop.

But I have no problem recognizing that's me and I've already got a pretty good inclination on timing between being a musician and years of practice with other butane vapes; not everyone will share my opinion and would prefer the clicks to be closer to the best temp spots for consistency

I like how it's less of a safety (like the dyna) and more of a tool

 

[Sativapo]

I got to do a mea culpa, while still would like the click a bit higher, with a big enough flame like 3cm (1.2") of solid blue and the double with the halo + the proper convection technique : long intense draw adapted tight to the airflow it does what it says in the diagram with visible tasty light vapor on the low temp ring respecting the click. I just like to start with more dense vapor than that.

Indeed not the same logic of clic than a vapcap and also typical convection draw technique.

There is a more conduction way with longer heating past the click and shorter hits with less pure taste.

Different techniques possible graphes the "no rule" thing of BFG.

While it's easy to get it working there is definitely a learning curve to find the ideal technique and airflow combination.

I don't want to try one hit extraction because the first vapor would be too toasty for my taste and also for my lungs combined with the quantity.

I kind of did one ( almost uniform medium brown) with the bong but it muted the exquisite taste I get with the first dry hit.

I generally load untamped with the straw method a tiny bit more than 0.1 almost full bowl.

 

[2pumpchump]

Hay just a thought but how about 2 or 3 click heat levels instead of 1 just an Ida ???
And I brought up the burn Ratio Because once you exceed the most efficient burn rate for your torch The flame is no hotter Just more of the heat

 

[Sour Dream]

Hay just a thought but how about 2 or 3 click heat levels instead of 1 just an Ida ???
And I brought up the burn Ratio Because once you exceed the most efficient burn rate for your torch The flame is no hotter Just more of the heat

Iirc my anvil had two clicks so it’s possible

 

[2pumpchump]

Iirc my anvil had two clicks so it’s possible

I'm happy now but as it seems to matter to others I was just throwing is out there

 

[kishot]

how to take out the intercoller from the metal stem?

 

[2pumpchump]

how to take out the intercoller from the metal stem?

The 2 SS ends should screw off and it slide out

 

[2pumpchump]

how to take out the intercoller from the metal stem?

Did you get it apart