Dani Fusion by Battery-free Ganz

[BingsBuddery]

Oil that up and it’ll look red again to me that looks like pigmentation from the wood, although definitely more prominent than mine but still the same hue nonetheless. That faded look on the wood after you rubbed it is what wood looks like stripped of the waxy / oily finish.

I get brown stains when I wipe the mineral oil off my Firewood when I clean it too. And my Walnut Vapman. It just comes down to the wood.

Something else that can happen I think, if an oil rich finish is applied too thick without polishing it off, it can also cause the pigments to leech the longer it sits. But that’s probably reaching on my part.

I’d wax it up if I were you, and go through a couple cycles, it shouldn’t be coming off on your hands.

I'm a little late to this convo, but this very thing occurred to another customer of SV recently who had used ISO on their Fusion stem and saw the same bleaching and leaching of pigment. I reached out to Vu to confirm that no dye, stain, or other product is applied to the wood to colour it. He confirmed that they only use a natural oil and beeswax/carnuba to finish. They are well aware of the risks of applying any type of colouring product to a vape stem. So what you are seeing is the pigment of the wood and perhaps some left over fine particulate being stripped away by a solvent.

Edit: Just read back and saw you confirmed with Vu, as well.. apologies for the echo.

 

[tinctorus]

@Arawfish I'm glad that you're satisfied but it isn't enough for me, personally. I would need transparency on how it happened and how it won't happen again. I'd also be really pissed if I was Soothing Vapours and whoever else this might have happened to.

They just stated it was a simple mix up, no reason to drag this out and keep bringing up a situation that was handled as soon as BFG was made aware abs workout question...

 

[Sativapo]

Just about to pull the trigger on this Fusion
Are the o-rings the same as for dynavap? Can anyone confirm?
I have lots of those so dont want to order more.

They look the same dimensions to me. But vapcaps are viton these feel like silicon. Not the same stiffness. That should work. I don't know if others experimented with previous danies.. ?

Edit : I know one stem is 8mm the other 9 when you put orings one on top of the other they look the same maybe there is like tenth of mm difference

 

[redeyemaster]

Just about to pull the trigger on this.

Are the o-rings the same as for dynavap? Can anyone confirm?
I have lots of those so dont want to order more.

Dani is 9mm, dynas are 8mm.

Not 100% sure if they’re the same size or not as I have never checked 1:1 but both my dani’s came with spares from Wesley pipes (us distributor)

 

[MDude]

LCV has them listed as 8mm.

Set de joint pour Dani 3

Set de 4 joints toriques de rechange pour vaporisateur mécanique portable Dani 3 de Battery-Free Ganz

lacentralevapeur.com

 

[redeyemaster]

LCV has them listed as 8mm.

Set de joint pour Dani 3

Set de 4 joints toriques de rechange pour vaporisateur mécanique portable Dani 3 de Battery-Free Ganz

lacentralevapeur.com

I should clarify; the stem sizes are different.

Not sure about the o-rings; they might be.

 

[Necra]

@MDude hear are some pictures not quite the same DV o rings are a slightly tighter fit but I was able to get it in the stem without pinching it and without using wax ... (yes i know this is the fusion tread it will be here soon lol) unless they change the o rings on the fusion and no 1 on here has said anything about yet ?? They will be a snug fit but can work .I would definitely wax them to keep from pinching but actually liking the extra snug of them now

 

[redeyemaster]

@MDude hear are some pictures not quite the same DV o rings are a slightly tighter fit but I was able to get it in the stem without pinching it and without using wax ... (yes i know this is the fusion tread it will be here soon lol) unless they change the o rings on the fusion and no 1 on here has said anything about yet ?? They will be a snug fit but can work .I would definitely wax them to keep from pinching but actually liking the extra snug of them now

Can confirm, same o-rings as the V3. (I slapped one of the spare o-rings from my fusion onto the V3, my v3 likes to eat o-rings)

 

[TangibleHangnail]

Are the Fusion stems the same as for the Dani? Can you upgrade by just getting the Fusion tip? Sorry for the newbie questions!

 

[redeyemaster]

Are the Fusion stems the same as for the Dani? Can you upgrade by just getting the Fusion tip? Sorry for the newbie questions!

Fusion and V3 stem have full cross compatibility with both tips.
V3 cap fits the fusion but not the other way around.

AFAIK no vendors are currently offering just the tip (heh) but YMMV depending on where you live.

 

[Grover]

Fusion and V3 stem have full cross compatibility with both tips.
V3 cap fits the fusion but not the other way around.

AFAIK no vendors are currently offering just the tip (heh) but YMMV depending on where you live.

Fusion 'heating units only' are available in Canada.

 

[Necra]

OK a picture in glass so you can kinda get a better Ida of the of the difference of how a DV o rings fit vs BFG o rings based on a v3T tip @redeyemaster i beleave the 6th will be 1 month for my v3 I would say mine is not to bad but I know of at least 1 and I believe actually 2 ... now thinking about it at 1 a month isn't very good . Dose the fusion seem to be more gentle on the ORINGS you guys??? ..
But as I'm heading to the shop I'll see if I can find my o ring gage .. and I'm taking to some peoples about a b0,000lk box of them lol

 

[Necra]

Fusion 'heating units only' are available in Canada.

OK a picture in glass so you can kinda get a better Ida of the of the difference of how a DV o rings fit vs BFG o rings based on a v3T tip @redeyemaster i beleave the 6th will be 1 month for my v3 I would say mine is not to bad but I know of at least 1 and I believe actually 2 ... now thinking about it at 1 a month isn't very good . Dose the fusion seem to be more gentle on the ORINGS you guys??? ..
But as I'm heading to the shop I'll see if I can find my o ring gage .. and I'm taking to some peoples about a b0,000lk box of them lol

( could not add quote during edit ) please merge or edit..


Yea it seams that the Canadian site has the most in stock selection!
Do you know if there flat rate shipping applies to us orders ?? I have already pre-order mine ..
But asking for others looking to pull the trigger

 

[redeyemaster]

OK a picture in glass so you can kinda get a better Ida of the of the difference of how a DV o rings fit vs BFG o rings based on a v3T tip @redeyemaster i beleave the 6th will be 1 month for my v3 I would say mine is not to bad but I know of at least 1 and I believe actually 2 ... now thinking about it at 1 a month isn't very good . Dose the fusion seem to be more gentle on the ORINGS you guys??? ..
But as I'm heading to the shop I'll see if I can find my o ring gage .. and I'm taking to some peoples about a b0,000lk box of them lol

Day 1 of my v3 it ate an o-ring.

I haven't had my fusion* snag on an o-ring yet and I've removed it ~5-6 times over the weekend without issue.

Fingers crossed.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

Does anyone having trouble getting satisfying hits from the Fusion. I have closed the airflow to half hole and still i get whispy hits.
With the bowl size smaller and having to pack it loose, i am getting close to dynavap level hits, nothing like the punch in the face the V3 delivers. I have to heat it 5-6 seconds beyond the click with my hand torch and 2-3 with the big one to get any vapor and i am quickly getting pop corn taste,if i heat any longer,like it doesnt have that heating time slack like with the V3 cap,which clicks right on the temp and i can heat it 5-6 seconds after and have comfortabl3 vaping range and you can actually temp step.. With the V3 cap on the fusion tip it is a bit better,but yeah one hit and it is done.. Honestly this vape feels like it is too much work unscrewing that hot cap ,just to get a reload,because i cannot get satisfied with one load. I consider this a device for people with lower tolerance. With Dynavap reloading is easy and back to back sessions are more comfortable,i still think this design has too many threads and requires to many rotation to get the cap off,which stays untouchable for significant amount of time and you have to use some cloth or paper tissue to get it off.

 

[Sativapo]

You can use the leather pouch to unscrew it mine works fine very pure taste and loads of vapor more than I can handle if I want. you just got to consider the click is too low temp. It's at least 10 seconds early with a good torch the double with a wand so of course hits are whispy if you go by the click or a few seconds more. It clicks pretty fast a bit longer than a vapcap but the mass is a lot more. Kind of cheating for short click time. I can assure you my tolerance is pretty high and this is maybe the vape that gets me more baked... so there's definitely a technique issue here. The moto with this one is fuck the click not respect the click.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

@Sativapo ( Daprezz) To be honest i had this same heating issue with my first V3 cap,,but my replacement is just perfect,even though it had the silver ring rotating as a fidget spinner, It clicks right where low temp vapor starts to build.
Do you feel like you can load 50% at best of what can be jammed in the V3 tip and still get even toast.
I have the feeling that with this new fusion tip, it cools down way faster and vapor production doesnt excel like with the v3 for me.
Also i am not getting those hot and cold rings ,i prefered the solid silver ring to be honest ,what good are those if you have to heat it seconds after the click anyways... Please someone explain ! Just heat it more or less to adjust temp,no need to position the flame like with the dynacrap.
If i heat the low temp ring it clicks faster than if i click the high temp one, but even when it clicks being heated on the high temp position ,it is still too early to get any vapor.
Anyway not giving up on this yet,but i really want to get it dialed down so it can earn a spot in my rotation,for now i dont see why would i use this one over the V3 i already have.

 

[Sativapo]

My first reaction was "oh no a weak ass vape again" until I made the "mental 10 second translation". It pieces me off when manufacturers restrict heat to "protect" the vaper like the v3pro. Thats what there are low temp settings for ! Such a nice feature like the low temp ring is useless ! I can't accept it dysfunctions by choice ! I don't know why reviewers don't mention this more clearly...

At least you can disrespect the click unlike a regulated device . I hope they won't make me buy the right temp clicker for more than half the price of the vape.

 

[leanpubpackage]

Does anyone having trouble getting satisfying hits from the Fusion. I have closed the airflow to half hole and still i get whispy hits.
With the bowl size smaller and having to pack it loose, i am getting close to dynavap level hits, nothing like the punch in the face the V3 delivers. I have to heat it 5-6 seconds beyond the click with my hand torch and 2-3 with the big one to get any vapor and i am quickly getting pop corn taste,if i heat any longer,like it doesnt have that heating time slack like with the V3 cap,which clicks right on the temp and i can heat it 5-6 seconds after and have comfortabl3 vaping range and you can actually temp step.. With the V3 cap on the fusion tip it is a bit better,but yeah one hit and it is done.. Honestly this vape feels like it is too much work unscrewing that hot cap ,just to get a reload,because i cannot get satisfied with one load. I consider this a device for people with lower tolerance. With Dynavap reloading is easy and back to back sessions are more comfortable,i still think this design has too many threads and requires to many rotation to get the cap off,which stays untouchable for significant amount of time and you have to use some cloth or paper tissue to get it off.

Try using a longer flame and heat towards the bottom of the ring. My experience has been anything but wispy and rivals desktops

 

[Arawfish]

My first reaction was "oh no a weak ass vape again" until I made the "mental 10 second translation". It pieces me off when manufacturers restrict heat to "protect" the vaper like the v3pro. Thats what there are low temp settings for ! Such a nice feature like the low temp ring is useless ! I can't accept it dysfunctions by choice ! I don't know why reviewers don't mention this more clearly...

At least you can disrespect the click unlike a regulated device . I hope they won't make me buy the right temp clicker for more than half the price of the vape.

I get pretty decent vapour and excellent flavour when I heat the lower ring and abide by the click, and then I get almost Anvil level vapour when I go 6-10 seconds past the click. When I abide by the click I get like 4 rounds of heat cycles.

@Abysmal Vapor you can use the inside of the leather sleeve it comes in to take on and off the hot cap. I happened to have a bunch of those little leather rings from @Duba which were purpose built for this exact scenario. I agree though, there’s just a few too many threads to undo.

I never really got too involved with the Dani thread, I had a V2 which I really did not like and decided they weren’t for me, but my understanding of why the clicker is so low was to give people a regulated but also manual experience all in one. It also seems like, given experiences stated, not all caps are clicking at the same temp? Which would be annoying for sure.

I’m finding I’m able to get more conduction if I use a smaller torch (think Vapman torch) and heat the bottom SS portion, and conversely when I’m using a triple flame torch and heat the same area, it’s definitely a lot more convection. There’s lots of variability with this thing I’m finding out more and more which has been fun experimenting with.

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

I get pretty decent vapour and excellent flavour when I heat the lower ring and abide by the click, and then I get almost Anvil level vapour when I go 6-10 seconds past the click. When I abide by the click I get like 4 rounds of heat cycles.

@Abysmal Vapor you can use the inside of the leather sleeve it comes in to take on and off the hot cap. I happened to have a bunch of those little leather rings from @Duba which were purpose built for this exact scenario. I agree though, there’s just a few too many threads to undo.

Wow reading this sounds like something is wrong with my cap... I have like 12 torches all sizes ,even with the bigshot blazer it doesnt make any vapor on the click ... My replacement V3 cap does that perfectly,even on the fusion tip.
If it is goint to be 10 seconds after the click,i would prefer a device without it ,haha ....
At this point from the whole package ,the only thing that makes my money worth is the more open airflow on the new tip ,but i do not like the smaller size..
I recommend Metal stem + fusion tip +v3 cap ,my experience with the stock fusion concept is meh.

 

[Sativapo]

I get barely visible vapor on the low ring with the click and not visible at all on the high ring. Maybe there's different clickers out there ?

 

[Arawfish]

I get barely visible vapor on the low ring with the click and not visible at all on the high ring. Maybe there's different clickers out there ?

There’s gotta be quite a bit of variation in the clickers I’m thinking! I’m getting stoned to the bone right now just to reaffirm I’m getting the results I’m talking about and I’m definitely stoned to the bone so she’s working great haha. I did edit my previous post a bit.

Edit: so high I wrote “stoned to the bone” twice ffs

 

[Nishno8]

So I was finally able to get the chamber out of my tip after some more heating with a jet lighter. It was stuffed in hard as hell and shouldn't have passed the "quality control" IMO. I removed both O-rings from the chamber and it is still pretty hard to adjust the airflow or remove the bowl, tolerances are really tight. At least it works, whatever I guess...
No problems with any wood stains here.

 

[Sour Dream]

Great time to get an ispire from @VGOODIEZ if you don’t have one with the 420 sale going on