Da Buddha

[cluffy]

Nice video Mathair N. Some upper temp vaping, best way to start the day!! And I like your nunchuck whip!!
VapeNStone, that's awesome you got some hash from your VT, but didn't you want to clean it before it got that far? I clean my VT's with ISO as soon as a good bit of brown collects at the first bend. It all goes into the evaporating reclaim pot. Your method is cool too though!!

 

[Zebra Bars]

Considering you have only been vaporizing for a few months, I dont think you have mastered it just yet . It looks like you need more experimentation with the DBV. Try adding a little more then just barely covering the screen, dont grind it too fine, but be sure it isnt too moist either(dry herb gives better vapor, herb that is more dry can also grinder finer easier). Try some different positions on the dial too. I tended to stay between 1 and 2 on mine.

Dont forget to stir the herb every 3-4 hits or so, and dont stir it and pack it down, you can tamp it down VERY gently if you want but its best not to pack it down much.

The way you pull has a lot to do with it, and maybe you are just having trouble controlling the speed of the pull. Remember to also remove the wand at the end of every hit to clear it, and to help cut off the heat towards the end. vape in better light too so you can see the vapor better if you are going off of what you see.

I know I haven't mastered it, I barely got it down. I've experimented with all bowl sizes and feel like more is a waste (to an extent) If I get it just right, about and 8th to a tenth of the whip full, it seems to not burn and keep going for 14 or 15 hits. I've even got my hose plugged into a bong being used as a stem for it. I can't get the bong to work without charring the top of the bowl, but then again Ipull extremely slow with the water pipe. I just use the whip itself with no hose if I want it dry (works well.) Thanks for your help, It's cool talking to DBV users figuring out different methods. If anyone knows of any good ways of using the SSV methods (turning and pulling on the whip) or just air pull methods that are helpful of pulling more vape than air, please elaborate.

 

[Nycdeisel]

When You combust, you need to realize you are pulling TOO SLOW. and dont pull that slow. ESPECIALLY not on a waterpipe. You also might want to tone down the heat just a bit, to decrease your chance of going too hot and combusting. Keep experimenting with the pull and the way you prepare and load and stir the herb.

I used to get a NICE 20 full vapor bong hits from just less then .2 in the DBV.

 

[kertong]

Just got a DBV (had an SSV before, traded it with a friend for a purple days, then didn't like it so much...).

Don't notice any difference between the DBV and the SSV aside from the wand angle. Love the hands free peace of mind operation of the flat DBV angled whip, vs. the SSV's downward bend - I was always afraid I'd yank the whip too hard and break the wand.

A friend of mine has had his vaporbros for 2 years now and uses that along with his MFLB exclusively. He tried my DBV for the first time last night, and now he is shopping for one at the local dispensaries (because he wants it *now*). I didn't think he'd notice much of a difference at all, but he swears the flavor is cleaner/better, the vapor is smoother, and he likes the DBV wand compared to the VB want. ymmv, but I was surprised that he talked about the DBV like it was a completely different beast from his VB.

But yes, another vote of confidence on the DBV. It's the one of the few vapes I've owned that can get me the higher temp CBDs, it's quick to heat, great vapor quality, and just plain fun to use

 

[Zebra Bars]

When You combust, you need to realize you are pulling TOO SLOW. and dont pull that slow. ESPECIALLY not on a waterpipe. You also might want to tone down the heat just a bit, to decrease your chance of going too hot and combusting. Keep experimenting with the pull and the way you prepare and load and stir the herb.

I used to get a NICE 20 full vapor bong hits from just less then .2 in the DBV.

I hope you don't mind me asking if you could give me good "rundown" on how you typically achieve these results. I recently found putting no more than 1/4 in the bowl and getting the element just to stop glowing, so it looks like it's off, is great to start on with slower steady pulls. Then work my way up to the point where it barely glows. This is just like you said with 11 o'clock to 1. I still go up 3-4 to finish but 4 is smaller loads and i'm obviously inhaling faster. I really do love the greener hits with fresh bowls, idk how anyone else starts their's off but sometimes I get a nice glow and inhale allot of vape real quickly. I don't feel like I'm vaping to full capacity though so I've been looking for wisdom from true vapers and dbv users. Thanks for the help on this subject, I'm sure it's not the first thread like this.

 

[VapeNStone]

Nice video Mathair N. Some upper temp vaping, best way to start the day!! And I like your nunchuck whip!!
VapeNStone, that's awesome you got some hash from your VT, but didn't you want to clean it before it got that far? I clean my VT's with ISO as soon as a good bit of brown collects at the first bend. It all goes into the evaporating reclaim pot. Your method is cool too though!!

It only happened after like 3 times lol. But now I just blow it out everytime and it says nice and clean.

 

[VapeVoice]

Got my Da Buddha in earlier today and all I can say is WOW! Love it! Just bought another slightly used one off of ebay for $65 shipped to have as a back up or to maybe give to my brother, just couldn't pass it up at that price. It has the letters "DBV" on the front. Is this in any way different from the one I have just gotten new with a buddha on it?

 

[Zebra Bars]

Does anyone know the difference between the new and older wand, is it a bad idea trying to put a 5/8 size screen (15mm) in the new design wand? The older wand looks like a better design, but maybe I'm just too used to looking at smoking equipment.

 

[cluffy]

Hey Zebra, welcome to FC! I just put a 5/8" screen in a new wand and it works, but it domes quite a bit and it doesn't seat as well as the smaller screens. I think they changed the design to make screen changing easier and so the air goes over the load more evenly. There are pics on the Da Buddha site showing the 2 wands: http://dabuddhavaporizer.com/dbv-accessories/replacement-screens.html

Here's a side by side:

I only use a DBV wand when I break a mini-wand and don't have a spare... :-P

 

[Zebra Bars]

Nice green wand, I still look at the old wand and can't help think thats the one of choice, but I understand this is vaping and not combustion.

 

[VapeNStone]

Does anyone know the difference between the new and older wand, is it a bad idea trying to put a 5/8 size screen (15mm) in the new design wand? The older wand looks like a better design, but maybe I'm just too used to looking at smoking equipment.

The older wand I think it a thicker glass. But, from what I noticed it has a smaller hole which would mean less airflow. I haven't noticed much of a difference so it really isn't that much different, but with the bigger hole it will be easier to clean.

 

[Zebra Bars]

Well I was guna order from 7th floor, the ssv site seems best for that. I was curious if their old oil difussor works for the buddah too.If it's the same as dbv sites it's a 15 dollar difference which is insane cause thats triple what I'm looking at. And I swear someone on here told me to get a heater cover that was made for the ssv. Is their actually a way to improve dbv?! I mean couldn't you just take an entire ssv casing and base stand, remove the buddahs body and turn it into an ssv? I think that may be too much, just mostly curious if ssv has better wands and covers, as I need screens and hosing, and IDEAS!!!

 

[vorrange]

The heater cover is different in the DBV, it is a bit larger in diameter and it comes with a GONG connection for the wand.

The original SSV heater cover doesn't have a GONG connection, but they made Heater Covers with GONG connection for the SSV as well.

Apart from the difference in the Heater Covers, you also have the angle of the piece, that is a 45º angle in the SSV to allow for the material in the wand to not fall in the ceramic heating element.

About your question in particular, you can order SSV heater covers that custom fit the DBV, it would be much more difficult to exchange the metal bodies.

Some say that, because of the smaller diameter of the SSV cover, the hit is more dense (less air to vapor ratio), and some prefer the non-GonG connection because you stir the herb better but you have to always be holding the wand.

 

[cluffy]

Zebra Bars, I have a custom standard SSV HC on my DBV. I recommend it. I have a standard SSV wand too, but I prefer the Vapor Brother's Mini Wand. In fact, I sold my spare SSV HC and mini wand to a friend who just got a DBV (my first vapor convert in 2 years of vaping!). He is loving it, I just got the report on Tuesday. If you order an HC and wand from 7th Floor you'll want the whole kit deal: http://silversurfervap.com/glass/wands/standard-wand.html Before you order you'll have to contact 7th Floor to specify that the HC is for a DBV. http://silversurfervap.com/index.php/contacts/

Happy Shopping!!

 

[vorrange]

@cluffy, do you easily switch between HCs or you never went back to the original DBV HC?

The price is the same for the DBV custom wand?

 

[VapeVoice]

So i combusted last night using my DBV and want to avoid that happening again at all costs. I love big rips so not sure lower temps will work for me. I have it set at about 1 oclock all the time. I don't believe i was pulling too slow although, I did just get this and still mastering it. What else, if anything could cause the combustion? Also do you think I can get good, satisfying hits from say the 11 o clock position?

 

[max]

What else, if anything could cause the combustion?

Nothing can cause it except for reaching combustion point. If your unit turns on at 7-9 o'clock, it shouldn't combust at one. Are you sure you got smoke, and not just high temp vapor?

I love big rips so not sure lower temps will work for me.

Big doesn't necessarily= high temp. Even if you like the harsh, high temp vapor, you should start lower. Starting off at a high temp is going to be wasteful of your supply.

 

[kertong]

i too have a unit that clicks on at about 7-8 o clock, and i've combusted twice at 1 o clock. 12:15-12:30 works best for me.

 

[VapeVoice]

Thanks guys I will try it at noon later to see how it goes. I am positive I combusted. had ash and HORRIBLE taste.


could not wait. works good at noon

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[cluffy]

@cluffy, do you easily switch between HCs or you never went back to the original DBV HC?

The price is the same for the DBV custom wand?

I only went back once when I broke my mini-wand. Now I always have a spare. The whole standard SSV kit (wand+hose+HC+mouthpiece) is only $35 +shipping. A custom DBV wand is $50 + if that your question.

 

[max]

i too have a unit that clicks on at about 7-8 o clock, and i've combusted twice at 1 o clock. 12:15-12:30 works best for me.

That's strange. Shouldn't be happening. That's too small of a vaping range. Are you packing a lot in the bowl?

 

[vorrange]

@ cluffy, thanks man! i meant custom dbv HC, i thought the kit would be more expensive with the HC addapted to the budda.

@ vapevoice, my buddha starts in the 7-8 position and at 1 i would have to be pulling really slow to combust. maybe hit it a bit faster.. i also find a consistent pull is more effective, with a bit of speeding up towards the end.

 

[kertong]

That's strange. Shouldn't be happening. That's too small of a vaping range. Are you packing a lot in the bowl?

Hmm, I fill it up to the 60% mark about, then tamp it down *super* loosely so that it sits pretty much at the 50% mark. Is that too much?

I noticed it 'caught' flame then grew the faster I drew. It's counterintuitive to my omicron/mflb, since a faster draw on that meant less vapor. But in the DBV wand, as I saw the vapor cloud thicken, I started pulling faster to "thin" out the vapor, and instead, watched it thicken then go up in flames! Tasted terrible, haha. I blame it to user error, but I did note very carefully that the dial was at 1:00, and now I make sure never to go past 12:45 or so.

Also to note is that this unit was maybe 2-3 days old when it happened. Do the newer ceramics burn hot until the break in, maybe?

 

[Zebra Bars]

Hmm, I fill it up to the 60% mark about, then tamp it down *super* loosely so that it sits pretty much at the 50% mark. Is that too much?

I noticed it 'caught' flame then grew the faster I drew. It's counterintuitive to my omicron/mflb, since a faster draw on that meant less vapor. But in the DBV wand, as I saw the vapor cloud thicken, I started pulling faster to "thin" out the vapor, and instead, watched it thicken then go up in flames! Tasted terrible, haha. I blame it to user error, but I did note very carefully that the dial was at 1:00, and now I make sure never to go past 12:45 or so.

Also to note is that this unit was maybe 2-3 days old when it happened. Do the newer ceramics burn hot until the break in, maybe?

so true, combusted many times following exactly what the instructions told me, I was pulling too slow on 11-1 but that was the only way to get vapor at those temps. I'd love to master the low heats but the high heats and big rips get me the way I like. My tolerance sucks (well it's good) and I can get supper high, but sober up in 5 minutes to 20. I just hate sitting there for 20 minutes getting little vape puff after puff. It'll work, had me get that "wave" effect when looking at my closet doors many wood panels. Those supper big rips like the boyz on u-tube do's, seem to do it though, hard to hold, but it's what I'm used to.

 

[Zebra Bars]

@cluffy thanks man, you got me debating weather I wanna switch to standard or stay GG. I have no problem with ground glass at all, the only complaint is the noise it make, which isn't bad, just a clanking sound. I don't think I care much for custom stuff, solely because of price, I definitely would If I wasn't so cheap. These guys are godsends if they actually make it like you described (within reason) still, thanks, if I were to get custom I would've just assumed it would be dbv usable, never thought u'd have to contact them.

@vorrange- I was guna take advantage of their deal on the old oil diffusion trays b4 their gone. Just what you said had me worried, the ssv is physically different form da buddah. It says they work with ground glass connection sold before 2009 of September. Dbv's site has them 3 times as much, are they the same exact product just being used in a market strategy or is the dbv oil tray bigger/different shape. I been google-ing since yesterday but no luck. Now I'm just trying to find pictures and compare. Thank you much vorrange, knowing the hole is smaller in the ssv is all worth it. Been wanting to cover my dbv hole with a marble to constrict airflow a bit but it impossible. Damn, they are different, looks like the ssv aroma top would rest on top of the heat cover for dbv.