2clicker
Observer
pretty amazing so far. the highs are much better and last longer.
i am however having issues with finding that sweet spot on the temp dial. i start out by warming it full blast and after a minute or so ill turn it down to between the 1oclock and 2oc position. my results so far are great, but i cannot see at all how im saving herb. its seems almost the same as if i were burning it. maybe im running it too hot...? maybe im not using enough herb for it to properly be most effective...?
my normal home consumption took place through a small glass 1-hitter similar to this:
i consumed between a .5 gram to 1 gram a day with this method for the last few years. basically the reason im telling you all this is because im hoping to conserve even more with my DBV. does anyone here put what would be considered "a 1-hit or two" amount in their wand for vaping? i find this amount to vape up very quickly.
thoughts?
i am however having issues with finding that sweet spot on the temp dial. i start out by warming it full blast and after a minute or so ill turn it down to between the 1oclock and 2oc position. my results so far are great, but i cannot see at all how im saving herb. its seems almost the same as if i were burning it. maybe im running it too hot...? maybe im not using enough herb for it to properly be most effective...?
my normal home consumption took place through a small glass 1-hitter similar to this:
i consumed between a .5 gram to 1 gram a day with this method for the last few years. basically the reason im telling you all this is because im hoping to conserve even more with my DBV. does anyone here put what would be considered "a 1-hit or two" amount in their wand for vaping? i find this amount to vape up very quickly.
thoughts?
Having a dbv myself, what id recommend is consider not vaping an entire wand at a time, the dbv hits better using about .2 in my opinion, but you can usually not vape it all the way and save some for later, if youre trying to conserve. It takes longer for the high to set in when vaping, so sometimes you continue to vape more because it hasn't set in yet.
SkollIstKrieg
Well-Known Member
I don't own a DBV but a friend of mine does and the few times I've used it, he starts it low and turns the dial very slowly every few minutes. The first time I used it he let me toy with it and i accidentally burned the herb so he showed me the importance of finding that sweetspot. Since, every time I've gone to my friends house, I'll pack 1 bowl, if i had to eyeball it id say .2/.3 and the wand will keep hitting for more than an hour! We had to set down the wand cause we couldn't finish the bowl 
steiner666
Serial vapist
it also can REALLY depend on your herb. I get some stuff that gives 2x as much vapor per x amount as some other stuff thats around town. But other than that, yeah pack less and start low and work your way up. If you dive right in with a high temp you can get bigger hits yeah, but its not as efficient as getting that same amount of vapor in more smaller hits, imo anyway. And actually, I think using high temps right away can kinda destroy some of the stuff that vapes off at lower temps... cant really be more precise than that atm 
but try starting low and stirring often and bump the temp up gradually as hits get thinner. On my DBV i think i was starting around 11:30-12 and finishing around 2. Also try sucking some air in behind your hits to make sure they're getting all the way down into your lungs.
Maybe post some pics of your ABV? I know when i first started vaping i was kinda like "meh, i like this a lot better than smoking, but i'm not sure i'm using much less" until i really got familiar with the vapes temp range. I took some of my ABV from teh first few days of usage and ran it through again at a higher temp and got a good bit more out of it. Just keep an eye on the color of the surface of the bowl, stir often, and keep your draws at a consistent speed while bumping the temp up little by little until you start to notice scorching on the bowl. You may accidentally combust (most dbv owners i know have done so at least once), but you can clean your glass and replace the hose/screen and it'll be like new again if you do, but its important to really get to know the temp range.
But even if you are vaping all you can out of it and youre still using as much as when you were smoking, at least youll still have wandhash to vape once your wand gets caked enough, and thats like the best part - do NOT assume its anything like bong "resin" because its waaaaay way better and tastier, better than even fresh bud IMO. Also you'll have ABV to do stuff with, cook or make golden dragon. Try doing that with ashes and resin!
but try starting low and stirring often and bump the temp up gradually as hits get thinner. On my DBV i think i was starting around 11:30-12 and finishing around 2. Also try sucking some air in behind your hits to make sure they're getting all the way down into your lungs.Maybe post some pics of your ABV? I know when i first started vaping i was kinda like "meh, i like this a lot better than smoking, but i'm not sure i'm using much less" until i really got familiar with the vapes temp range. I took some of my ABV from teh first few days of usage and ran it through again at a higher temp and got a good bit more out of it. Just keep an eye on the color of the surface of the bowl, stir often, and keep your draws at a consistent speed while bumping the temp up little by little until you start to notice scorching on the bowl. You may accidentally combust (most dbv owners i know have done so at least once), but you can clean your glass and replace the hose/screen and it'll be like new again if you do, but its important to really get to know the temp range.
But even if you are vaping all you can out of it and youre still using as much as when you were smoking, at least youll still have wandhash to vape once your wand gets caked enough, and thats like the best part - do NOT assume its anything like bong "resin" because its waaaaay way better and tastier, better than even fresh bud IMO. Also you'll have ABV to do stuff with, cook or make golden dragon. Try doing that with ashes and resin!
2clicker
Observer
i have now pretty much figured out my temp settings for my DBV. been getting some good pulls, but it still seems to me that it vapes as fast as it combusts... does the savings come from having to vape/smoke less often...?
also, i coughed into the mouthpiece for the first time today and it shot an expired bowl into the heating element and the cover. some of the plant matter stuck to the element and burned causing some smoke, a burnt smell, and a light brown resin in the element cover. which leads me to ask why there is no screen inside the cover to prevent any plant matter from contacting the element... ? would it be a bad idea to install one myself? im certain i can get one in there with room to spare, but would it restrict the airflow enough to notice...?
any help is appreciated
also, i coughed into the mouthpiece for the first time today and it shot an expired bowl into the heating element and the cover. some of the plant matter stuck to the element and burned causing some smoke, a burnt smell, and a light brown resin in the element cover. which leads me to ask why there is no screen inside the cover to prevent any plant matter from contacting the element... ? would it be a bad idea to install one myself? im certain i can get one in there with room to spare, but would it restrict the airflow enough to notice...?
any help is appreciated
max
Out to lunch
No vape should do that. But if your temp is set high you will go through a bowl fast. I can't see this happening though, unless you're getting high temp vapor with every hit. That's some harsh vapor, and I'd at least sample some tasty vapor (and the different effects) at a lower temp setting. You can always raise the temp. If you raise it gradually, a bowl can last a long time.
As long you don't exhale into the whip, it's not a problem. They're not going to go to extra expense to make heater covers that will accept a screen just to prevent something that should only rarely happen. In addition, a screen fine enough to stop all particles from coming through would also restrict air flow, and you'd have to remove it at intervals to clean or replace it. Any particles hitting the element will get burned up. No harm done.
rabblerouser
Combustion Fucker
I didn't notice a huge savings with the buddha. I'd say i've been getting a slight savings + better high.
I added a MZ to my line up and i think it is winning for efficiency, but i still love the buddha.
some sort of blocking screen crossed my mind, but I haven't had too many incidents that would really require it and most of the ones i had were in the first couple weeks. not a horrible idea, just not that much call for it.
I added a MZ to my line up and i think it is winning for efficiency, but i still love the buddha.
some sort of blocking screen crossed my mind, but I haven't had too many incidents that would really require it and most of the ones i had were in the first couple weeks. not a horrible idea, just not that much call for it.
philly_artist
Well-Known Member
Alright - I received my Buddha today and opened the package with trembling fingers.
I haven't smoked in a little bit and I had laid my pipe to rest - intent on not smoking weed until I bought myself a vaporizer. I've narrowed it down to a couple different vaps to buy and decided the versatility of the Buddha would be my best choice for my price range.
This is definitely a great day to get it - since I thought it wasn't coming until the 27th as noted by Amazon. I've hooked it up and took my first vape about 15 minutes ago and am now pleasantly stoned. I filled up the tip with about 1/8 of crushed herb and made sure to let the Buddha burn for 20 minutes before using it as suggested in the directions. At first I didn't see the wand and the long piece that connects into the heating element since they're in these cool pockets black pockets on the black bag that comes with the Buddha. I took a drag of it and concentrated on breathing in long and slow, allowing my lungs to fill nearly full and then holding the breath in til the count of 10 and exhaled slowly, allowing the vap to absorb. I didn't see any mist but tasted the weed it and reminded me of times that I've tried adding weed to foods and looked down at the mouthpiece and saw a faint mist coming off the end. I took in another 4 or 5 hits and stayed slow and steady, holding in each exhale. I took out the piece that connected into the heating element and inspected the weed. The weed looks browner but not that much and certain pieces looked pretty light. I reinserted it into the Buddha and did several more breaths but I didn't see much exhale. I'll try another load after doing some stuff and will report back with things but I can things are definitely feeling good on this end
I haven't smoked in a little bit and I had laid my pipe to rest - intent on not smoking weed until I bought myself a vaporizer. I've narrowed it down to a couple different vaps to buy and decided the versatility of the Buddha would be my best choice for my price range.
This is definitely a great day to get it - since I thought it wasn't coming until the 27th as noted by Amazon. I've hooked it up and took my first vape about 15 minutes ago and am now pleasantly stoned. I filled up the tip with about 1/8 of crushed herb and made sure to let the Buddha burn for 20 minutes before using it as suggested in the directions. At first I didn't see the wand and the long piece that connects into the heating element since they're in these cool pockets black pockets on the black bag that comes with the Buddha. I took a drag of it and concentrated on breathing in long and slow, allowing my lungs to fill nearly full and then holding the breath in til the count of 10 and exhaled slowly, allowing the vap to absorb. I didn't see any mist but tasted the weed it and reminded me of times that I've tried adding weed to foods and looked down at the mouthpiece and saw a faint mist coming off the end. I took in another 4 or 5 hits and stayed slow and steady, holding in each exhale. I took out the piece that connected into the heating element and inspected the weed. The weed looks browner but not that much and certain pieces looked pretty light. I reinserted it into the Buddha and did several more breaths but I didn't see much exhale. I'll try another load after doing some stuff and will report back with things but I can things are definitely feeling good on this end
philly_artist
Well-Known Member
I definitely underestimated how good a high from vaping could be. The couple hits I got yesterday ranked easily with the intense long highs that I've felt only after eating brownies and thats after having 2 or 3. Also the lack of hot air or discomfort by inhaling the vape makes me convinced I won't feel anything from this - until I get that instinct to cough and the clearer taste of the weed. I noticed yeserday too that the after buzz is very pleasant and simply fades away without making me feel tired. I'm experimenting today by having a bit smaller amount though yesterday I had only used about a chunk the size of my thumbnail. This is just one more great thing to be thankful for and am looking forward to having a great dinner tonight with friends in the city. 
toxicc
E11001420
I have both a buddha and an extreme, and i'm currently vaping around .1g of powdered hash using the extreme elbow pack method with the buddha and it's working great. Probably not good for long sessions tho because the tubing is near the heat source compared with a wand, but good for people that only want a few puffs and good efficiency with small amount.
CosmoKramer
Well-Known Member
Da Buddha is great but I'm concerned about what I've read regarding the outsourcing to China.
When (Date wise) did Buddhas first start getting "assembled" in China?
What does your Da Buddha say on the bottom?
Do the units made in China still say "Designed and Build in the USA" above 7th Floor LLC ?
I just noticed that mine says Designed and Built in the USA even though bought a little less than half a year ago. Is that a lucky break? Did I not get a China one? Cause that would be sweet.. other wise I am thinking of getting the SSV so I can avoid having my piece be half lead and radio active like in baby food from China.
When (Date wise) did Buddhas first start getting "assembled" in China?
What does your Da Buddha say on the bottom?
Do the units made in China still say "Designed and Build in the USA" above 7th Floor LLC ?
I just noticed that mine says Designed and Built in the USA even though bought a little less than half a year ago. Is that a lucky break? Did I not get a China one? Cause that would be sweet.. other wise I am thinking of getting the SSV so I can avoid having my piece be half lead and radio active like in baby food from China.
toxicc
E11001420
I bough mine just before they started to sell the china ones so mine is "Designed and Build in the USA" like yours. Here is a quote from post #29 of that thread: http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=1333&p=2
CosmoKramer
Well-Known Member
sweet. Mine must have been sitting around in a warehouse for two years. The efficiency makes it worth its price.. I can't say anything bad about it... but I didn't know any of that before I bought it.
I bought it because of its reputation. Pretty much every vapor forum raves about it. I'm not sure how this China issue never came up during my research.. It's baffling they have such a great reputation with this China outsourcing bull shit. (I mean seriously.. why the fuck China... 7th Floor needs to "stealthly" switch production from the US to China just to save on costs... then leave the website information vague and misleading)
The product speaks for itself. It's a good product. They could have (And they fucking did) just increased its price and continued to make it in the US. People would pay. Why sellout your reputation and make it in China? Huh 7th Floor?
I bought it because of its reputation. Pretty much every vapor forum raves about it. I'm not sure how this China issue never came up during my research.. It's baffling they have such a great reputation with this China outsourcing bull shit. (I mean seriously.. why the fuck China... 7th Floor needs to "stealthly" switch production from the US to China just to save on costs... then leave the website information vague and misleading)
The product speaks for itself. It's a good product. They could have (And they fucking did) just increased its price and continued to make it in the US. People would pay. Why sellout your reputation and make it in China? Huh 7th Floor?
2clicker
Observer
i dont believe there are any made in china.
on the site it says: "Composed of foreign and domestic components,
Finished and tested in America"
so likely they use some parts from china and assemble and test them here.
ive only had mine for a couple weeks so i would assume its a new one. build quality seems great to me. which reminds me... i would like to get a new base for it as the plastic base isnt that nice. i know its not that a big deal, but id like a better and more attractive solution.
any suggestions?
on the site it says: "Composed of foreign and domestic components,
Finished and tested in America"
so likely they use some parts from china and assemble and test them here.
ive only had mine for a couple weeks so i would assume its a new one. build quality seems great to me. which reminds me... i would like to get a new base for it as the plastic base isnt that nice. i know its not that a big deal, but id like a better and more attractive solution.
any suggestions?
max
Out to lunch
You can be sure that they're partly assembled in China. They were using parts made in China (or wherever else they found a combo of good quality and price) from day one, to some extent. I'm sure the electrical guts are made and assembled in China, along with whatever else makes sense. There's no point in even having a statement like that if all assembly is done in Colorado Springs. Some of the assembly is being farmed out to China because it saves money. It's the same deal we've seen with manufacturing leaving the US for decades.
It doesn't make any difference where the vape is made. It does matter WHO makes it. It does matter whether buyers get at least the same quality as when the vape was 100% manufactured in CO. It's even possible that the quality is now better. It's up to 7th Floor to make sure the proper QC is done, so that the finished product is up to standards.
The made in China vapes that are cheap clones are manufactured by large companies like Wenzhou Lichao Light Industrial Manufacture Co. Ltd, and advertise like this- "We are direct Factory supplying herbal vaporizers all over the world.
We are direct factory exporting herbal vaporizers all over the world mainly USA and Europe. We have sales window all over the world. Please get in touch with us with your enquiry for more details."
My Weigh scales are manufactured in China, but in a My Weigh factory. Quality is high, and the warranty is 30 yrs. I've had a couple of different My Weigh models and love 'em. Never had a problem. OTOH, there are plenty of cheap scales made in China, with little to no warranty, made in the same kind of big Chinese factories with different names slapped on the scales, just like the cheap vape clones. These are the 'made in China' products to avoid if you want quality and durability. If it's nearly impossible to get in touch with the manufacturer, beware. This is not the case with DBVs and My Weigh scales, etc. They make it clear where and how you can contact them, and provide customer svc. and good warranties.
You can find poor quality products that are made in most any country, including the US.
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CosmoKramer
Well-Known Member
What does the bottom of yours say? And you should not remove the base or disassemble a vape in any way. That would most def void your warranty. Shoulda got the black buddha, that base looks badass.2clicker said:
max
Out to lunch
Removing the base won't void the warranty. They sell bases for the SSV, so you can switch colors if you want. If you want to make a base for the DBV, feel free. But last time I checked the company only makes the one, plastic version. It's one reason they can sell it cheaper than the SSV, which now has all aluminum bases.
Pappy
shmaporist
My sweetspot is noon. After heating it @ noon for 3 minutes I load .2-.3g and hit it 5 or 6 or times, swirl the wand and hit it 3 or 4 more times. I then turn it up to 2 oclock and repeat. I get 10 - 12 hits and end up with chocolate brown ABV, depending on the herb. I believe it was Steiner who gave me the approach to stay at your sweetspot as long as you can. It increased my output. Good luck.2clicker said: