To answer your question nah, I haven't tried either piece before. In fact, whatever piece I get will be my first.
I was wondering about taking dabs with a piece where the joint was in the center. I figure a male to male adapter with a drop down on top would work and keep the piece cleaner.
Could be tough to fit a drop down on there unless you have a really high M-M or really low dropdown. Much easier to just throw a banger on top of the M-M if you're on top of a Dewar joint, but your can will get gooier quicker. That's why I suggested bangers with a longer stem. More glass before the can is going to pick up more condensate and less to clean later.
Those look awful. If the function is comparable to the difference between a Mobius piece and the fakes, I'm glad I have one of the originals.
Good glass vs Chinese glass... you can see the difference.
DHgate pieces often remind me of an infamous old mansion in Detroit, nicknamed "Slumpy."
My experience as well. Mobius is the best hitting glass I've ever tried and the fakes don't compare. And by "best hitting" I mean overall ease and coolness and smoothness of the vapor hit. People buy functional glass for lots of reasons, but for function specifically, I have yet to find another type I like as much as the Mobius matrix perc.
I'm with you. The actual Mobius pieces are much nicer. 10 times nicer, though? I don't know about that.
The picture of the house really brings this home. If you tried to live there, you're gonna have all kinds of trouble you wouldn't have in most homes. Rain and snow coming in, shit probably falling on your head, floors so out of whack your sofa could sit at a 45 degree angle, and much more I'm sure. There is a huge difference from here to a McMansion, but there's also plenty in between that would be fine for many of us. What I'm saying is this house isn't functional. You couldn't really live in it.
Comparing that to the glass we're talking about here? Nobody is looking to buy a broken piece, or one that doesn't function (like this house), but not everybody is up for a million dollar 7 bedroom, 7 bath crib, either. Chinese glass may not be as thick or straight or have as good of welds (though it sometimes can), but it works and usually works pretty damned well - especially if you stay away from the crazy percs and designs.
The piece I just got from glassartist for $70 is very similar to a Mobius Reti perc. It isn't quite as pretty, isn't a real Mobius, and probably doesn't fire quite as well as the $400 (450?) or so original. If it was $300 compared to $400 (if I could even still get a real one!) we'd be at a whole different place. But, it's not. You've got to show me some real value if you want me to throw down more than 5 times the cost for a close knock off - and I'm sure not seeing it. Plus, as I think someone mentioned above, one of the benefits of the real piece is better/more diffusion. When I was smoking, that would be great. But with vapor? Less diffusion is much better IMO because it holds the awesome flavor we get from vapor much better. Kind of makes me feel the same as when someone tries to draw my uber-hopped $7 beer into a frosted mug. I want to taste it, really taste it, that's one of the reasons why I buy the good shit!
I kind of get it, and if that's what you like go for it! Just don't expect me to join you for the price of admission. Especially given that the piece I just got for more than most Chinese stuff is priced, is still better quality (heavier glass, straighter, good welds, good function) than most DHGate stuff that is about 1/2 as much. If you go with the regular cheaper shit that most of us buy you're talking about glass that costs 10-15% of the original. That kind of money buys me enough to put in my vape for at least a few months, or a whole new vaporizor!
). Slits are not totally "identical", but pretty damned close, too. Fires evenly all the way around.I meant the add on mouthpiece.
