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[PoopMachine]

Looks like I got Kathy'd again.. ordered something 10 days ago, got a tracking number next day, didnt update for about 8. I know its going to get stuck in Chinese New Year which is what I was trying to avoid. Not the end of the world but seems like its always something. Last piece I ordered from her showed up in 10 days.

 

[abcd5432]

For vaping flower, what you want is lots of diffusion (bubbles). The more bubbles you have, the smoother and denser the hit. Warm water also helps with the dry throat, because of the extra moisture compared to room temperature water.

If any of those pipes has a water test video in the description, check them out to see which has better diffusion. If not, I think you'll likely be safe with any of the last 3 you posted, particularly the 2nd and 4th models.

OK hmm, and I looked everywhere for a video of the third nowhere to be found but similar double barrel recyclers seemed ok.

What makes you 2 and 4 vs 3? And Im leaning towards 4 due to matrix perc+ recycler to add onto the current matrix perk bong I have. But 2 looks nice because it's a little smaller. What makes you say two? I really don't get what's going on in designs like number 2.

 

[MinnBobber]

I'm not really sure what I should be looking for though in a good design for vaping.

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Those pieces all look very busy, as compared to basic designs like most Mobius pieces.
What Mobius did you get, real or Chinese?
For inverting a vape onto glass, I much prefer a center of can inlet so vape is completely balanced/ centered. None pictured have that. Not a deal breaker but these all have vape hanging off the side

Vapor starts off about 600 degrees F LESS than combusted cannabis so only minimal cooling is needed IMO. All vapor is very very dry so moisturizing the dry vapor is much more important.
So, much smaller water pieces do the job fine.

Do you prefer:
maximum diffusion for smoother vapor but more taste is lost OR
maximum taste which comes from piece with minimal diffusion but it still can add moisture OR
where in this continuum ?

I find minimal diffusion for maximum taste works great for me, but everyone is different.
I have a sensitive throat / lungs but find a small piece with minimal diffusion adds plenty of moisture to make the vapor very very flavorful and very easy on the throat and lungs.

Again--what Mobius piece and try it so you know which way to go on the diffusion vs flavor scale

EDIT: abcd, I see your Mobius piece and your aim for maximum diffusion so I cannot help as I focus completely on the minimum diffusion/ max taste pieces.
I'm sure others will have great suggestions.
vape on

 

[rakka]

What size tubing do I need to replace the possibly unsafe one that comes with the FC UFO?

 

[abcd5432]

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Those pieces all look very busy, as compared to basic designs like most Mobius pieces.
What Mobius did you get, real or Chinese?
For inverting a vape onto glass, I much prefer a center of can inlet so vape is completely balanced/ centered. None pictured have that. Not a deal breaker but these all have vape hanging off the side

Vapor starts off about 600 degrees F LESS than combusted cannabis so only minimal cooling is needed IMO. All vapor is very very dry so moisturizing the dry vapor is much more important.
So, much smaller water pieces do the job fine.

Do you prefer:
maximum diffusion for smoother vapor but more taste is lost OR
maximum taste which comes from piece with minimal diffusion but it still can add moisture OR
where in this continuum ?

I find minimal diffusion for maximum taste works great for me, but everyone is different.
I have a sensitive throat / lungs but find a small piece with minimal diffusion adds plenty of moisture to make the vapor very very flavorful and very easy on the throat and lungs.

Again--what Mobius piece and try it so you know which way to go on the diffusion vs flavor scale

Real mobius glass from an authorized seller. Which was now looking back a ton of money but I didn't know. But I'm happy as mobius glass is making smaller pieces and this is a discontinued piece.

I have a probably 16 inch mobius strato glass that has a matrix perc in the middle.

This piece exactly actually. Maximum difussion is what I want. I have gotten a super sensitive throat now and the recyclers seen like they are what I need.

The center of can vape inlet isn't common on bongs. Bubblers yes which is why I had my first option. If you could point me in the right direction for those designs that would rock.

Part of the reason I chose those pieces was because they were interesting to me. I'm going to replace my adapter I just broke for my bong, but Kathy listed some more pieces.

I see what you're saying with the diffusion so I'm wondering if I can get more diffusion than my current mobius in a smaller bong as my current mobius is quote large. Am I right in that a recycler is what I need? I'm open to a smaller piece but I just need smooth hits.

The smaller pieces are quite cheap so I'm willing to try one of those out as well. But I did thing a big recycler would be nice as I take quite large rips with m current big bong but a recycler would probably. Make them a lot smoother I imagine.

 

[Pousy]

Pillar perc with showerhead bubbler from CCG. The glass quality is amazing and the base is really sturdy as well. I can tell the glass quality/work is so much better Kathy's fab egg, which I already dropped and smashed . The smoke goes into the dry compartment first and then shoots into the showerhead perc and then up the pillars. Pretty sick.

 

[DabDiva]

Looks like I got Kathy'd again.. ordered something 10 days ago, got a tracking number next day, didnt update for about 8. I know its going to get stuck in Chinese New Year which is what I was trying to avoid. Not the end of the world but seems like its always something. Last piece I ordered from her showed up in 10 days.

thats unfortunate...

but so whats the deal with this Chinese New Year? Are sellers only on vacation or also shipping companies? Wondering i should wait on placing an order till after so my package doesn't get lost or something during the break

 

[rand_alpha86]

What makes you 2 and 4 vs 3? And Im leaning towards 4 due to matrix perc+ recycler to add onto the current matrix perk bong I have. But 2 looks nice because it's a little smaller. What makes you say two? I really don't get what's going on in designs like number 2.

The reason I prefer 2 and 4 over 3 is surface area; when you take a hit, some of the vapour sticks to the glass. The more surface area there is, the fewer cannabinoids get into your lungs. So you want to limit the surface area.

I admit that I don't know much about the science going on in number 2 but as far as I know, agitating the water as much as possible is a good thing for some reason. Sorry that that's not very technical. The design is a variation of the Faberge Egg by Mothership.

 

[Ace of Space]

I just got Steven's Fc 1000 in and i must say it's amazingly cool.
I made sure they did a thorough QC before shipping out, because the last order from Steven was a Pisa tower shaped Fc Ufo, that functions ok but looks weird. On this thing everything is straight, it's thick glass, clean welds, just beautiful!
I got the Fc 1000 to pair with my Herborizer and it does a great job of smoothening out the harsh big clouds with the matrix and pillars.

 

[PoopMachine]

thats unfortunate...

but so whats the deal with this Chinese New Year? Are sellers only on vacation or also shipping companies? Wondering i should wait on placing an order till after so my package doesn't get lost or something during the break

Basically the whole country shuts down for 10 days.

 

[LazyIdol]

Ordered a 18mm straight fab and diffusion pump from Steven. Both should be here monday. pretty excited. Also ordered a custom dropdown from Joda to go with them

 

[Mangos]

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Those pieces all look very busy, as compared to basic designs like most Mobius pieces.
What Mobius did you get, real or Chinese?
For inverting a vape onto glass, I much prefer a center of can inlet so vape is completely balanced/ centered. None pictured have that. Not a deal breaker but these all have vape hanging off the side

Vapor starts off about 600 degrees F LESS than combusted cannabis so only minimal cooling is needed IMO. All vapor is very very dry so moisturizing the dry vapor is much more important.
So, much smaller water pieces do the job fine.

Do you prefer:
maximum diffusion for smoother vapor but more taste is lost OR
maximum taste which comes from piece with minimal diffusion but it still can add moisture OR
where in this continuum ?

I find minimal diffusion for maximum taste works great for me, but everyone is different.
I have a sensitive throat / lungs but find a small piece with minimal diffusion adds plenty of moisture to make the vapor very very flavorful and very easy on the throat and lungs.

Again--what Mobius piece and try it so you know which way to go on the diffusion vs flavor scale

EDIT: abcd, I see your Mobius piece and your aim for maximum diffusion so I cannot help as I focus completely on the minimum diffusion/ max taste pieces.
I'm sure others will have great suggestions.
vape on

Sorry to Hijack the question but I'm also looking for a piece -but for minimum diffusion and taste with low drag. Something like the D020 but a bit bigger. I already have the FC 186, D020, FC mod and mouthpiece. I was thinking of getting the FC 187 from Steven as it seems like it fits my needs- unless you have any other suggestions ?
Was going to get the FC UFO but I want something with a mouthpiece attached. Thanks for any advice given.

 

[YungLeaner]

Sorry to Hijack the question but I'm also looking for a piece -but for minimum diffusion and taste with low drag. Something like the D020 but a bit bigger. I already have the FC 186, D020, FC mod and mouthpiece. I was thinking of getting the FC 187 from Steven as it seems like it fits my needs- unless you have any other suggestions ?
Was going to get the FC UFO but I want something with a mouthpiece attached. Thanks for any advice given.

Get the UFO! Having the MP attached isn't enough to make you skip it. much better than my D020D. I would like a 187 though

 

[abcd5432]

The reason I prefer 2 and 4 over 3 is surface area; when you take a hit, some of the vapour sticks to the glass. The more surface area there is, the fewer cannabinoids get into your lungs. So you want to limit the surface area.

I admit that I don't know much about the science going on in number 2 but as far as I know, agitating the water as much as possible is a good thing for some reason. Sorry that that's not very technical. The design is a variation of the Faberge Egg by Mothership.

They all seem good however, I don't like number 3 after looking at it more. I think this is better.

Looks like it would function like this:

The one in the vid is also available and cheaper I believe.

 

[rand_alpha86]

They all seem good however, I don't like number 3 after looking at it more. I think this is better.

Looks like it would function like this:

The one in the vid is also available and cheaper I believe.

It looks good to me! Ultimately you want something you like looking at and using. I use recyclers for flower and they're still quite effective despite being primarily associated with concentrates. Post a review when you get it!

 

[CameraNerd]

Got a second ftk in the mail MUCH faster this time (totally acceptable wait) perhaps this design is just too complicated for them? the new broken one, still has little imperfections in the glass.. like, things that in a head shop would be considered b grade. theres a chunk (size of a grain of rice ) inside one of the fab holes that shouldn't be there. there is also a black mark permanently stuck in the joint.

I thinnk this first batch of FC-FTK is hit or miss. I have seen 2 of these that functioned here and on insta, as well as another 2 that didnt and my two that dont. It may not be fair to say that the new one that arrived doa didtn function, but since the mouth piece snapped off, its safe to say it doesnt funciton lol

damn im going to place another order on somethign safe.. rip the bandaid off.

 

[Nugg]

I noticed Sasquatch Glass have sale on. A few interesting pieces under $100.

 

[pigfoot]

Got a second ftk in the mail MUCH faster this time (totally acceptable wait) perhaps this design is just too complicated for them? the new broken one, still has little imperfections in the glass.. like, things that in a head shop would be considered b grade. theres a chunk (size of a grain of rice ) inside one of the fab holes that shouldn't be there. there is also a black mark permanently stuck in the joint.

I thinnk this first batch of FC-FTK is hit or miss. I have seen 2 of these that functioned here and on insta, as well as another 2 that didnt and my two that dont. It may not be fair to say that the new one that arrived doa didtn function, but since the mouth piece snapped off, its safe to say it doesnt funciton lol

damn im going to place another order on somethign safe.. rip the bandaid off.

I really like the function on my mini straight fab from steven. The QC however, could use improvement. I think these more complicated pieces have a greater chance of imperfections.

 

[alltoreup]

I noticed Sasquatch Glass have sale on. A few interesting pieces under $100.

Wow, they do have some good prices right now. I've checked out their bee hives on their site before. Anyone around here have or hit one of these?

 

[abcd5432]

Pillar perc with showerhead bubbler from CCG. The glass quality is amazing and the base is really sturdy as well. I can tell the glass quality/work is so much better Kathy's fab egg, which I already dropped and smashed . The smoke goes into the dry compartment first and then shoots into the showerhead perc and then up the pillars. Pretty sick.

I really like the function on my mini straight fab from steven. The QC however, could use improvement. I think these more complicated pieces have a greater chance of imperfections.

I quoted both these posts because of fab issues and I was intending to get a fab.

When you say imperfections, do you mean quality as in it doesn't function well? Or it's not well made/bubbles/cracks/whatever else.

I'd quoted a fab beaker clone earlier, and it felt like the least "busy" of all the designs. But it has a feb design so now I'm worried.

Sorry to Hijack the question but I'm also looking for a piece -but for minimum diffusion and taste with low drag. Something like the D020 but a bit bigger. I already have the FC 186, D020, FC mod and mouthpiece. I was thinking of getting the FC 187 from Steven as it seems like it fits my needs- unless you have any other suggestions ?
Was going to get the FC UFO but I want something with a mouthpiece attached. Thanks for any advice given.

No problem, I actually have the FC-187 as a piece I can get. I do get a feel sometimes that it's not just the diffusion of the piece for me. Because I can hit minivap no filtration fine. Maybe, when I add filtration I attempt to take bigger hits though. I am tempted to get the FC-187, but since it's almost hte same price as the other pieces I'm considering, I'm just not sure.

 

[abcd5432]

It looks good to me! Ultimately you want something you like looking at and using. I use recyclers for flower and they're still quite effective despite being primarily associated with concentrates. Post a review when you get it!

I agree, however, I think what you've said has had a lot of merit and I really want to take that into consideration!

I wanted a pretty and useful piece and I can still get that!

So I've moved on and now am looking at this piece again:
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product...glass-oil-rigs-incycler/264526755.html#ctabBo (No branding as far as I can see from link)

Or the smaller version here:

I think the larger one needed more water in that function video though.

I think it takes into consideration the things you've stated though!

 

[pigfoot]

I quoted both these posts because of fab issues and I was intending to get a fab.

When you say imperfections, do you mean quality as in it doesn't function well? Or it's not well made/bubbles/cracks/whatever else.

Mine works great, one of my favorite designs. Just the right amount of resistance (slight). My perc is noticeably titled. Works fine, all slits fire. Got a refund for the problem, which was cool, wish I'd held out for replacement though.

 

[CameraNerd]

The Klein on my FC-ftk #2 was very crooked. I wasn't going to moan to them about it, but.... I'd say it's almost 30degrees off.

But... As long as it doesn't effect function...ill take the discount and stfu...

To Stevens defense... They are said to be mailing another ftk (hopefully in one piece that doesn't leak) after CNY. I was told to remind them.

Both boxes were in good shape, I assume they were packed with tiny cracks in hard to see places (inside the torus neck, inside the mouthpiece to tourists joint) that (I would like to trust them) perhaps got worse in the climate changes during shipping? I know air cargo can get ice cold, and shipping cargo can bake in the sun for weeks. This reminds me of a driving incident. When I was a child, I got a small ding on my windshield. It was cool until one day it randomly froze. my car totally defrosted and we were cruising down the street when out of no where that crack spider webbed the entire windshield. We jumped out of the car, it was pretty wild. #science... So perhaps a small thing they couldn't see just got worse? I guess the other side is they pack broken bongs just to meet orders. I was told they were wet because they went through quality control 3 times ::smh::

@pigfoot I agree with you, the more complicated the piece, the more likely something will be wrong.. That why everyone loves the d020 series stuff.

 

[Stu]

I just did the canola oil/borosilicate test on my GB-187 and FC-mod. I'm not sure if anyone has tested them before (apologies if redundant) so I shot a quick vid.

They're boro.

 

[rand_alpha86]

I agree, however, I think what you've said has had a lot of merit and I really want to take that into consideration!

I wanted a pretty and useful piece and I can still get that!

So I've moved on and now am looking at this piece again:
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product...glass-oil-rigs-incycler/264526755.html#ctabBo (No branding as far as I can see from link)

Or the smaller version here:

I think the larger one needed more water in that function video though.

I think it takes into consideration the things you've stated though!

Personally, I would order from stevenlmz79 instead of cleanclearglass, because I've had better experiences with him (better shipping times and communication). I trust both sellers, I just feel that Steven cares more about shipping your items ASAP.

The quality is about the same though (sometimes Steven has better glass, sometimes not), as is the packaging, so if cleanclearglass is a lot cheaper I would go with them instead. I've ordered from both of them within the last two weeks so that's just my $0.02.