Cheap High Quality Bubbler

[Vessel]

I am looking for a cheap setup to pair with my cloud Evo and was hoping some of you folks could help me out, give some suggestions or point me in the right direction.

Initially I would like something simple that will team up well with my Cloud Evo, would also like to have something that would work decent for dabs or even burning flower if it comes to that (probably wouldn't).
Travel friendly is a plus too. What I am Really looking for is a setup that will be able to catch the oil or 'reclaim' so that I can retrieve it with ease without the use of any solvents. That would be really awesome and is one of the main reasons I want another piece to use with the cloud as I only have one glass piece to use as of now and that's the OG shower-cap hydratube.



Dh Gate as a LOT of new and interesting pieces of glass since I've last checked them out, but I am still intrigued by the D020 series.

Ok, so I've picked these two out
The d020-d Bubbler : I know there are various versions of this, I would love if someone could compare and give me suggestions on the pro's and cons of each one, or what would work best in my situation.
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/d020-d-bubbler-glass-water-percolator-smoking/187214099.html

I also found this, Would this work to catch a good amount of reclaim : http://www.dhgate.com/store/product...371024985.html?recinfo=1,5,1#cpspd-1-5|null:5

I don't know if this adapter will be able to clear the ridge of the d020 but I know something out there will work. I know using the evo on this setup I'll have to hold and support the weight of the Evo and not have it just suspended on its own; I don't think that would be an issue. My main concern is collecting most of the 'reclaim' with ease to dab with.


Any suggestions or comments would be much appreciated as I don't know a whole lot about glass.

I really like this one too- http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/sovereignty-glass-gline-to-imperial-18mm/270254463.html

 

[Bvapst]

Has anyone tried the FC-Mod?

Yes, I love it ! That's what I wanted for a long time : an easily cleanable glass set up ! I thought I would not use the ash catcher part, but I liked the fact I could see the vapor forming in it if put on the side. So for that matter I would have prefer a different mouthpiece.
Then I found out I really like the "barrel" perc in that small volume of water (ash catcher), so now I need to buy some 18MM jhook for that and get a new piece with a free barrel perc (it was cracked and broke on a simple light hit).
I'm looking at the rachet diffusion pump for that new piece, but I'm not sure yet ...

 

[ReeferChiefer]

also this looks very nice. do you have any other pieces you could compare the drag to?

I would say the *drag* mostly resembles my David Goldstein Rooster Apparatus. It feels like a lot of filtration is going on but it maintains a high flow of air regardless. Little drag at all with lots of filtration, just like my Rooster.

I also found this, Would this work to catch a good amount of reclaim : http://www.dhgate.com/store/product...371024985.html?recinfo=1,5,1#cpspd-1-5|null:5

I don't know if this adapter will be able to clear the ridge of the d020 but I know something out there will work. I know using the evo on this setup I'll have to hold and support the weight of the Evo and not have it just suspended on its own; I don't think that would be an issue. My main concern is collecting most of the 'reclaim' with ease to dab with.


Any suggestions or comments would be much appreciated as I don't know a whole lot about glass.

I really like this one too- http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/sovereignty-glass-gline-to-imperial-18mm/270254463.html

I don't own a d020 but I do have a small oil rig with similar design and I can confirm those dropdowns with steep angle will not work, even with an 18mm extender. It barely doesn't clear the bottom of the dropdown due to the wide top of the rig. You will need this one instead + an 18mm male to 18mm female adapter to bring it away from that wide base.

http://www.dhgate.com/product/soult.../239299675.html#myaccount_activeorders-8-null

Also, I made this video recently for that last rig you shared. It is the same exact one from the same dealer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=33&v=1mQQnn3qFiA

 

[matthend]

i have the 'dropdown' shown above and a D020, they mount up fine, but are purely a horizontal move of the joint as they do not lower the height at all. I am have been running the 710 whip directly on the D020 for the past few months and cant complain

 

[ReeferChiefer]

Here's an example of what I was talking about. Both pictures with the adapter. As you can see in the first picture it will not fit past half way because it hits the top of the rig. Without the adapter it wouldn't even go in. The second photo shows the only way it works. Unless the d020 has a smaller top (doesn't seem like it to me) I don't think it will fit either.

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Also here is a video of another water test. I ordered all three in the same order but they arrived at different times. I have here 3 rigs all from HFY Glass. A faberge egg, straight fab and the G-line to Imperial I already showed. I did the same thing using the dropdown and nail to show function under a lot of restriction and then without it.

 

[pigfoot]

I don't get all the interest in drop downs. For an enail, I could see it adding stability, as the heaver parts can sit lower, so the rig doesn't tip over. Or if you have expensive glass, and don't want to risk a nail getting stuck. But to "collect reclaim"? Basically you are just adding a condensing coil. Will it collect reclaim? Sure, at the expense of you getting to inhale it.

 

[ReeferChiefer]

As you said, it protects the rig from excess heat but it just makes it easier to collect reclaim. Also helps keep your rig cleaner for longer periods of time. After one session, my rig looks clean while the dropdown looks like it's been through a lot.

 

[KimDracula]

A dropdown can also get your nail away from your face so you can see it when dabbing and don't burn your nose.

 

[pigfoot]

As you said, it protects the rig from excess heat but it just makes it easier to collect reclaim. Also helps keep your rig cleaner for longer periods of time. After one session, my rig looks clean while the dropdown looks like it's been through a lot.

Yeah, but if you just get a smaller rig, with no drop down, you get to inhale all that vapor.

A dropdown can also get your nail away from your face so you can see it when dabbing and don't burn your nose.

True. Never understood why so many rigs put the nail so close. I think something like this, or this, are just better designs. Better aesthetically too. I swear, kids are being introduced to dabbing, who think they need a dropdown, like a necessity, even when they don't have an enail.

 

[ReeferChiefer]

Yeah, but if you just get a smaller rig, with no drop down, you get to inhale all that vapor.



True. Never understood why so many rigs put the nail so close. I think something like this, or this, are just better designs. Better aesthetically too. I swear, kids are being introduced to dabbing, who think they need a dropdown, like a necessity, even when they don't have an enail.

If you plan on smoking the reclaim anyway, like myself, I don't mind it. I don't think the reclaim gets hot enough to vaporize and enter your rig. After numerous hits back to back at high temp the reclaim liquefies but it doesn't vaporize. I would suggest new smokers they only need a dropdown if they intend to keep their rigs clean or if they intend to collect reclaim. Other than that you won't need it unless you have a really small oil rig and a big nail in your face when hitting it.

 

[weenstoned]

@pigfoot no drop down means that reclaim ends up in your rig (even small ones)

 

[pigfoot]

Okay, not wanting to start an argument here, but......reclaim starts out as vapor....that you want to inhale. That's the point. Getting the concentrate into your system. When vapor condenses, it becomes a solid again.
The longer and cooler the path the vapor takes, the more it condenses. Condensing your vapor before it enters your rig is fine, if that floats your boat. That's why rigs were originally quite small, with golf ball sized chambers.

 

[ReeferChiefer]

Okay, not wanting to start an argument here, but......reclaim starts out as vapor....that you want to inhale. That's the point. Getting the concentrate into your system. When vapor condenses, it becomes a solid again.
The longer and cooler the path the vapor takes, the more it condenses. Condensing your vapor before it enters your rig is fine, if that floats your boat. That's why rigs were originally quite small, with golf ball sized chambers.

Unless you collect reclaim out of your rig each and every time, you are wasting oil anyway. Even small sized rigs collect reclaim inside the chamber/water, that is inevitable. Most people don't collect the reclaim in their small rigs because they don't know the process of drying it out, they would rather just clean the rig and waste it.

You will have reclaim no matter the size of your dabs or rigs. Dropdowns just make it easier to collect it and keep rigs cleaner. It's not necessary but it's also not counterintuitive as you may think.

 

[pigfoot]

I think we're getting off course here. The concentrates for noobs thread seems like a good place, if anyone wants to continue.

 

[ReeferChiefer]

It's ok, I don't think this is an issue that needs resolve. Just preference, isn't it?

 

[pigfoot]

It's ok, I don't think this is an issue that needs resolve. Just preference, isn't it?

Yes, just mentioned the other thread in case anyone wants to discuss it further. This thread is for glass

 

[YungLeaner]

i have the 'dropdown' shown above and a D020, they mount up fine, but are purely a horizontal move of the joint as they do not lower the height at all. I am have been running the 710 whip directly on the D020 for the past few months and cant complain

I bought a 710 whip, but was rarely able to get a good dab. Low temps are nice, but it felt like I was just taking whispy mixes of my wax mixed with whatever the last wax I smoked. And then I tied the coil too tight to make it hotter and it cracked the dish With the Gimido stuff getting so cheap I'll probably just grab one of those.

I personally find my D020D to be a pretty low-reclaim device compared to some other stuff I've had, but it's not really a concern for most people that smoke enough wax to get a lot of claim.

I wonder if steven would ever consider making the FC-UFO in an even larger size. At that point it would resemble a hookah

 

[matthend]

I bought a 710 whip, but was rarely able to get a good dab. Low temps are nice, but it felt like I was just taking whispy mixes of my wax mixed with whatever the last wax I smoked. And then I tied the coil too tight to make it hotter and it cracked the dish With the Gimido stuff getting so cheap I'll probably just grab one of those.

I personally find my D020D to be a pretty low-reclaim device compared to some other stuff I've had, but it's not really a concern for most people that smoke enough wax to get a lot of claim.

I wonder if steven would ever consider making the FC-UFO in an even larger size. At that point it would resemble a hookah

Did your 710 whip have the 'dab cap' top on it? I think that is the key to getting serious dabs on it. I have been lusting over the liger banger for a while now, but cant talk myself into moving on from the 710 whip as of yet.


On another note, my faux FTK from Seller2020 just processed through chicago and is on its way to me now. Hopefully I will have a full report on it sometime next week.

 

[YungLeaner]

Did your 710 whip have the 'dab cap' top on it? I think that is the key to getting serious dabs on it. I have been lusting over the liger banger for a while now, but cant talk myself into moving on from the 710 whip as of yet.


On another note, my faux FTK from Seller2020 just processed through chicago and is on its way to me now. Hopefully I will have a full report on it sometime next week.

Yeah, it has the ceramic cap with the hole on top if I understand correctly. I pulled one or 2 awesome dabs on it but honestly, the nail experience isn't for me. It's harder for me to concentrate on real life when I'm primarily using wax, it has significantly higher addictive properties IMHO

 

[Cannabis Connoisseur]

Yeah, it has the ceramic cap with the hole on top if I understand correctly. I pulled one or 2 awesome dabs on it but honestly, the nail experience isn't for me. It's harder for me to concentrate on real life when I'm primarily using wax, it has significantly higher addictive properties IMHO

Tell me about it bro!! I've noticed my flowers seem less potent when i know that isn't the case.

 

[Vessel]

Here's an example of what I was talking about. Both pictures with the adapter. As you can see in the first picture it will not fit past half way because it hits the top of the rig. Without the adapter it wouldn't even go in. The second photo shows the only way it works. Unless the d020 has a smaller top (doesn't seem like it to me) I don't think it will fit either.


Also here is a video of another water test. I ordered all three in the same order but they arrived at different times. I have here 3 rigs all from HFY Glass. A faberge egg, straight fab and the G-line to Imperial I already showed. I did the same thing using the dropdown and nail to show function under a lot of restriction and then without it.

Sweet. Out of those three do you have a favorite? I like the G-line Imperials design and function and the placement of the female gong would work well for me, though it looks like a rather big piece.. I really like the small volume of the faberge egg and its design looks workable with my intended use.

 

[weenstoned]

Decided to order a Mothership mini copy from the vendor "hookahbong" for $25 as I have been wanting one for a while. Messaged them and after a bit of language barrier stuff I am pretty sure it doesn't come with a cap despite WITH CAPS being in the title of the ad. Still kinda been wanting to test my theory that Steven is just a reseller and doesn't manufacture anything so I went ahead and ordered anyways. I would link to it but the link will just be edited out so just search mothership mini on dhgate and it should come up.

Then I ordered a set of 3 caps http://www.dhgate.com/product/glass-carb-cap-fitting-for-the-quartz-honey/240301491.html as a review of the same item from a different vendor (sungange I think) said that they fit on the fc-mini. Went with these over the sungange ones as this ships epacket and the other one you had to order 5. If it doesn't work out I will prob message Steven to see if I can get just a cap. Stevens caps are a bit more like an OFZ but also look a bit jankier.

All told I saved ~$27USD ($37 CAD) compared to just buying from Steven and will have two extra caps (assuming they fit). This is a good lesson about communicating with vendors before ordering though as assuming an ad that says WITH CAPS would include a cap would be a normal one to make, but in this case is likely vendors not knowing English and just copying the title of another ad.

 

[ReeferChiefer]

Sweet. Out of those three do you have a favorite? I like the G-line Imperials design and function and the placement of the female gong would work well for me, though it looks like a rather big piece.. I really like the small volume of the faberge egg and its design looks workable with my intended use.

I would have to say the Fab Egg. I love the contrast between the black and the white smoke, it has a nice chug to it almost sounds like an aquarium if that makes any sense. Since it's mostly hollow it kind of echoes when the water is moving around.

 

[abcd5432]

These are the pieces I'm considering for use with a vaporizer (Minivap).

Not many are bubblers but they're from DHGate. Could use some advice as to which do you think would actually come close to the design, and whether they're actually good designs.

I just got a mobius glass piece, and now I don't want to pay that much again. I got the Matrix perc, which I have found to be AMAZING. But these are the pieces I've been considering.
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/recycler-glass-bong-water-pipe-new-come-14/231055714.html $36.81

I'm not really sure what I should be looking for though in a good design for vaping.

I want smooth clean hits that don't wreck my throat. My throat has become more and more sensitive after vaping and feeling cool vapors.

Modnote: Do not post links to labeled counterfeit glass. Links removed.
Updated with pics with no logos/links.

 

[rand_alpha86]

I'm not really sure what I should be looking for though in a good design for vaping.

I want smooth clean hits that don't wreck my throat. My throat has become more and more sensitive after vaping and feeling cool vapors.

For vaping flower, what you want is lots of diffusion (bubbles). The more bubbles you have, the smoother and denser the hit. Warm water also helps with the dry throat, because of the extra moisture compared to room temperature water.

If any of those pipes has a water test video in the description, check them out to see which has better diffusion. If not, I think you'll likely be safe with any of the last 3 you posted, particularly the 2nd and 4th models.