grdwaste
Glass Psycho
Hey mine was in origin post is preparing shipment for about a week and a half then just randomly updated to Chicago today. You should be good. Probably missed just missed a scan and these holidays are crazy right now..
Cheap High Quality Bubbler
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bhoenthusiast
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when did yours ship out? Mine from sss just went through customs yesterday and nothing since
Uzer
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Shipped the 8th or 9th. Just wanted to add I had a great experience with SS. During my tracking trouble I contacted them and within a few hours they sent me a copy of the shipping label to prove that the tracking number was addressed to me and correct. The thing was packaged in 4 layers of bubble wrap and taped up with packing tape. Thin cardboard box but enough with all the bubble wrap.
Trogdor
Vapinating the peasants
I just got the D022 in with the same packaging, I swear that stuff was like a puzzle to unravel. can't believe they fit that much bubble wrap in there.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
My fc-187's came today. So I wouldn't sweat delivery. Unfortunately one if them was broken, so I'll have to deal with a claim. I'll tell you how they work later. Xmas and all...
grdwaste
Glass Psycho
It's here!!! FC-187 just arrived and now unboxed. Bad news (for me) is that my nano is not here, and not enough time or inclination to pull out the EQ. Will be back to my nano in a couple hours and already pretty vaked anyway (da, na, na, na, na, na, na, na - VAPMAN!).
Sorry.. no pics or vids right now. Trying to finish gift wrapping and get back to girlfriends (and nano!).
Initial impressions....
Packed OK, but not like what we've been seeing from China lately. One thin bubble wrap layer around FC-187 in box (also some newspaper and a few rolled up empty plastic bags). Double boxed, but only one piece of styrofoam on one end between boxes and nothing on outside. Label says "Candle holder". Piece was unscathed by it's long journey.
Included was one really cheesy bowl shaped slide. No cheap vapor dome/nail.
Looks pretty nice. Glasswork is good, not great. Joints a bit buldgy, but no biggie. GonG is pretty deep compared to other pieces, but don't think this will be a problem. It just sits a bit further down into top of can (2-3mm?).
Birdcage is pretty high off bottom of can (about 3/4"). It is supported/joined to bottom of can, but different than anything else I have seen. The downtube runs all the way to the base, with perc incorporated along the way. Sorry no pic, and kind of hard to explain, but can touch base itself through dewar joint with a stick or something. Everything else I have seen the perc is sealed at bottom of itself, then a piece below that ties it to base of can. Don't think this will effect use at all. Just odd.
Downtube isn't perfectly straight/vertical. Off just a tad to the back. Think all of my Chinese glass with dewar has this issue, though. Not too bad. Certainly not my worst offender on this.
Did a water test. CLEAN THIS PUPPY WELL. Usually I do a quick iso and then water rinse on a new piece. Did a very quick iso, then water on this. Tasted VERY chemically, and not of ISO. Did a much better ISO cleaning and rinsed and seems to be all clean now.
Seems to hit well by water test, but level is going to be tricky. Since perc is so high in can, if water is more than a mm or 2 above perc, it splashes back a good bit. Got a good bit of splash in my mouth on first "test clear" (thumb on, then off while drawing hard). Dumped water until just at top of perc and not bad. Anxious to see how this works in actual use.
It looks very similar to my jhanpixel sidecar. Volume a bit less. Top is more squared off instead of rounded. Mounthpiece just a bit shorter. Of course perc is different and higher. Not quite as heavy/thick. But, pretty damned good considering about 1/3 the price.
All in all, I'm happy! Seems like what we've all been expecting. Hope the high perc isn't problematic in use, and that everyone else's is a bit lower than mine.
Sorry for the weak review here. Wouldn't even have posted while so busy trying to get finished for Christmas and out the door and no vapor test, but know many are waiting to hear about this one. Hope others will get theirs today also and pick up my slack.
I'm out. Will post more about use tomorrow if someone else doesn't first. Will be sure to give it a few good test sessions and compare closely with GB-187 (currently under nano and not here either!).
Happy Christmas! Don't forget to leave a few nugs out for Old St. Nick!
@blankrider the next time you talk with Steven can you pleass ask him to wrap things better for shipping. Would make a world of a difference to customers and make them feel better. Don't want any chances with the diffusion pump and mini pillar!
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LongIslandmom
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i still patiently waiting and I see everyone had to go thru this wait period and I have contacted SSS twice and they have been very apologetic. I was just glad that they answered me back at all. This is the first time I have ordered anything from China let alone the sunshine store.
But I do have to say that the solo is so good it pairs with my little bong pretty well so I have gotten used to that and it works great. I so wish I hadn't broken my evo side circ because that was also a good size to put with the solo and travel. And I have such a small collection it's bad to lose anything.
You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you just might find you get what you need
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tennstrong
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Have a connect on quartz buckets/OFZ knockoff caps (asked for recently), please post in the honey bucket thread if interested so I can place an adequate order.
Pic: http://imgur.com/71izVL3
Pic: http://imgur.com/71izVL3
Monsoon
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Thread in question for the lazy folks:Have a connect on quartz buckets/OFZ knockoff caps (asked for recently), please post in the honey bucket thread if interested so I can place an adequate order.
Pic: http://imgur.com/71izVL3
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/honey-bucket-carb-caps.16694/
If you can actually do them for $25 or less I expect them to be pretty popular. Shit that's even a good price for the cap alone.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
I have no idea
flotntoke
thoroughly vaped
Volume is about the same, but FC is a bit shorter and wider. I kind of like the shape/dimensions of GB a bit better, but think that is because most of my other glass shorter wider and it stands out. Also like the diffusion of the GB a bit better too, but many people will like FC better (if like mine).
It seems the size of slits on the perc is a bit smaller on the FC. They both seem to provide about the same volume through the birdcage, but the smaller openings give a bit more drag and more bubbling. This makes it a little harder to keep diffusion minimal while loading the can. All good with either, and can still keep it barely purring with the FC - just have to think about it a bit more.
It seems the minor issues I'm seeing with mine are a result of real fast production. Not unusual at all with Chinese pieces, but from the chem residue that was still in it, to the odd downtube/perc configuration (downtube straight to base) it feels kind of thrown together. The worst indication of this on mine is the high perc. It isn't too hard to get to the water level sweet spot, but there isn't much wiggle room. Easy to overfill and get splashback, and only a couple mm above enough water to cover perc. In use this isn't a problem because this is the exact same water level I'd be putting in it anyway. The sidecar helps just enough with splashback so that water usually swirls a bit in the moutpiece tube, but doesn't really hit your lips. It's no recycler cyclone, but a pretty cool visual and worth the occasional drip of splash.
Still a great piece!! I do love me a sidecar and this is a great one. Nice and open and feels real good to use. Can easily see into the can, nano is off to the side and out of your face and think the sidecar gives it that cool steampunk look. A perfect piece for me would be the GB internals I have (downtube/perc/ support) inside the FC I have. But think some of these factors can change from individual piece to piece on Chinese glass, so YMMV. I like them both about the same with a slight lean towards the GB right now, but pretty much a toss up. Still very glad I picked up the FC and am sure it will get plenty of use. It is definitely going to retire my D020.
@steama - sorry to hear you got a broken one. Hope there aren't too many of those. Think they will get better with this as they sell more. Packing on mine was sufficient, but was much weaker than ss store and yingmin.
blankrider
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@tennstrong and anyone else concerned about the open bottom perc on the FC-242, it was left open intentionally to save time/money. This is the very first rough prototype.
@NickDlow you are correct about the angle of the uptake arms. I have already explained that they should meet with the vortex chamber at a tangent.
Prototype number two should be even better and the bottom of the perc will be closed for a water test. I will let you guys know when #2 is finished and we can discuss possible final revisions before production
@grdwaste and everyone else concerned for the safety of their glass, I will be sure to talk to Steven about better packaging. The last thing I want is your guys stuff showing up broken, or mine. I want to warn everyone that the increased labor and shipping charges could potentially raise prices. Probably only a few bucks which is a small price to pay.
@NickDlow you are correct about the angle of the uptake arms. I have already explained that they should meet with the vortex chamber at a tangent.
Prototype number two should be even better and the bottom of the perc will be closed for a water test. I will let you guys know when #2 is finished and we can discuss possible final revisions before production
@grdwaste and everyone else concerned for the safety of their glass, I will be sure to talk to Steven about better packaging. The last thing I want is your guys stuff showing up broken, or mine. I want to warn everyone that the increased labor and shipping charges could potentially raise prices. Probably only a few bucks which is a small price to pay.
grdwaste
Glass Psycho
Would rather pay an extra
Would rather pay the extra $5 for better service any day!
NorthernHuskie
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Hey everyone just a heads up. Growhighglass posted a bunch of water test videos of his pieces on youtube. Also his channel links to Cleanclearglass
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYGPVxzOw53283dgrCruJRw
Check them out!
The honeycomb makes the bear mountain rig look soooo much better
This inline seems to vortex better than most other chinese glas rigs
And lastly this babycake rig looks like it has some crazy functioning
Not sure if I actually had anything to do with him getting these videos out or not but I've been on his ass for them for the last week or two lol
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYGPVxzOw53283dgrCruJRw
Check them out!
The honeycomb makes the bear mountain rig look soooo much better
This inline seems to vortex better than most other chinese glas rigs
And lastly this babycake rig looks like it has some crazy functioning
Not sure if I actually had anything to do with him getting these videos out or not but I've been on his ass for them for the last week or two lol
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blankrider
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Thanks for the function video links @NorthernHuskie. I talked to Steven about providing water test videos on his page for all new pieces he releases. Hopefully he will and other sellers too.
There sure is a lot of water in that barrel to baby cake
There sure is a lot of water in that barrel to baby cake
Monsoon
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Don't forget once you receive your order and everything checks out okay to find the order in your account and click "Complete Order" so the seller gets paid. Not sure how long it stays in limbo if you forget.
http://help.dhgate.com/help/buyerhelpen.php?catid=2407#help_php-indexleft-14
http://help.dhgate.com/help/buyerhelpen.php?catid=2407#help_php-indexleft-14
NorthernHuskie
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Yeah I noticed that too. All of the water test videos have more water than they should. And a lot of the videos could have had better lighting but I talked to him about both issues so hopefully they will be fixed in future videos.
Oh shit I had no idea, thanks for letting me know. I'll make sure to when I get my order!
Anybody else's fc187 been stuck in Jamaica New York for the last 6 days with no movement?
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Mine is also out for delivery, sat in NY for 6 days.
Like most others, it looks like they are only scanning the packages once they get to there final destination's Local USPS. I'm guessing to save time for the holiday rush.
My FC-187 tracking updated from the main hub in my town on December 24th, departed for my local PO. Then this morning it updated to "Cleared ICS" 3 states away. It updated the scheduled delivery for Saturday. Then it was delivered this morning!
Build quality is sufficient for the price. It was packed in about 2 layers of bubble wrap inside a box. That box was then inserted into another box and several strips of broken Styrofoam were used to keep the box from shifting around. Slightly impressed it survived the journey. Mine smelled like all the rest of the glass I usually buy from China. Like normal procedure, I perform several short PBW rinses followed by a 91% ISO shake followed by some more hot water rinses.
The mouthpiece is comfortable. But I must say the perc isn't that great - mine has at least 1 chip on it, and the cuts are very inconsistent. This is my first birdcage perc like this. It has more cuts than the D020-w, and seems to fire a bit smoother than my D020-W. Regarding splashback. My perc is mounted approximately 0.5 inches above the base. I have no problem with water levels. Only on my hardest rips could I *possibly* get some water far enough up the mouthpiece to my lips.
I feel like the mouthpiece is rotated a bit too high - I really can't see the whole can from this angle. Just being nit-picky here - if I wanted full control over the design, I would (and probably will) hire an American blower to make me a custom piece
Personally, I'm glad I only bought one to start. I'll be watching to see how this piece and the other concept glass pieces evolve over time.
Pictures coming later - lots to do today!
Build quality is sufficient for the price. It was packed in about 2 layers of bubble wrap inside a box. That box was then inserted into another box and several strips of broken Styrofoam were used to keep the box from shifting around. Slightly impressed it survived the journey. Mine smelled like all the rest of the glass I usually buy from China. Like normal procedure, I perform several short PBW rinses followed by a 91% ISO shake followed by some more hot water rinses.
The mouthpiece is comfortable. But I must say the perc isn't that great - mine has at least 1 chip on it, and the cuts are very inconsistent. This is my first birdcage perc like this. It has more cuts than the D020-w, and seems to fire a bit smoother than my D020-W. Regarding splashback. My perc is mounted approximately 0.5 inches above the base. I have no problem with water levels. Only on my hardest rips could I *possibly* get some water far enough up the mouthpiece to my lips.
I feel like the mouthpiece is rotated a bit too high - I really can't see the whole can from this angle. Just being nit-picky here - if I wanted full control over the design, I would (and probably will) hire an American blower to make me a custom piece
Personally, I'm glad I only bought one to start. I'll be watching to see how this piece and the other concept glass pieces evolve over time.
Pictures coming later - lots to do today!
NickDlow
Log Hog
They both arrived all in once piece, the packaging was good but not the best but they're safe.
My first impression is the both are noticably different but the function with just water seem to be close. Besides the shape of the percs being different so were the placement of the bands inside the perc. The one on the right was too low and at some spots has no opening for bubbles. The GB-187 has a much cleaner perc. But if that just means less diffusion I honestly don't care because less diffusion is better taste, am I wrong?
All in all though they are still very much worth the price. They function well and the sidecar is great!
My first impression is the both are noticably different but the function with just water seem to be close. Besides the shape of the percs being different so were the placement of the bands inside the perc. The one on the right was too low and at some spots has no opening for bubbles. The GB-187 has a much cleaner perc. But if that just means less diffusion I honestly don't care because less diffusion is better taste, am I wrong?
All in all though they are still very much worth the price. They function well and the sidecar is great!