Cheap High Quality Bubbler

[LesPlenty]

I only use my rattle can while sitting in my recliner, hanging onto the RattleCan...like a can, it sure would be a hassle on a tabletop, the new one from Stevenimz would be better for that.
I only use mouth pulls on a native vapcap, too restrictive on a bong for me, I would rather have a WoodScents for a cap on my stem when on a bong. I have used the following for 2x vapcaps at once on a bong and it helps;

 

[EmDeemo]

Long necked rattle can ordered.

Lets see what arrives.

EDIT: I didnt contact them first to ask for one thats been made properly Thought I'd just order and see what happens. If its sub par, I will throw it back in their general direction.

 

[Cilleire]

Long necked rattle can ordered.

Lets see what arrives.

EDIT: I didnt contact them first to ask for one thats been made properly Thought I'd just order and see what happens. If its sub par, I will throw it back in their general direction.

I've ordered the long neck also today. Thanks for your reccomendation in the flowerpot thread, I'm looking forward to trying it.

 

[MasonJar]

After doing head to head comparisons with my other bongs the last 2 weeks or so using my vapcaps, one emerged the winner and I decided to order one again for backup... The FC-710 by seller Ebizcn... For $20 with free e-packet shipping you really can't go wrong.

Pic of the FC-710 side by side with my other bongs that it beat not just on price but on performance when paired with vapcaps... You do need a 14mm F to 14mm F adapter for it... The FC-710 is truly a cheap high quality bubbler.

 

[LesPlenty]

Only thing is I don't like male joints, especially 14mm and the mouthpiece looks so thin that it would break if I accidentally hit it with my teeth, the new gooseneck version from Stevenimz might be better built(it would want to be for twice the price).
You are probably getting the best results with the 710 due to the restriction as it is intended to be a dab rig, that is the reason for the male 14mm joint.
Maybe the restriction of the 14mm joint matches the restriction of your Vapcap, that might explain your preference.
What other vapes have you used on the rigs for comparison?

 

[Ramahs]

Yeah, I don't do male joints either.

 

[cybrguy]

That is such a layup I think you should drop it over in "out of context" yer own self...

 

[Ramahs]

Thought about it...but I figured letting a friend do the honors was only right.

 

[wildything]

I like my FC-710 too and was using it with my EVO for a long time since the flavor is spectacular on the first couple hits. The adapter converts it to a female and you would have no idea its a male rig function wise. Also the male joints were popular for female titanium nails for dabbing since the male nails could easily break a female joint from he inside. I'm sure the percs are very similar in the different diffusion pump models on dhgate but there really is nothing wrong with the FC-710 and although I like the aesthetics of the newer ones and the thicker glass I haven't had a real problem with this one or need for another. The glass may look thin but it can still hold up to a good beating and I doubt that the other models are worth 2x the price.

@MasonJar What do you like about the FC-710 over the CCG straight fab? I have a CCG klein and enjoy the pull with the FOL perc but for the first hit or so the FC-710 really shines and I love its unique chug and sound.

 

[MasonJar]

I like my FC-710 too and was using it with my EVO for a long time since the flavor is spectacular on the first couple hits. The adapter converts it to a female and you would have no idea its a male rig function wise. Also the male joints were popular for female titanium nails for dabbing since the male nails could easily break a female joint from he inside. I'm sure the percs are very similar in the different diffusion pump models on dhgate but there really is nothing wrong with the FC-710 and although I like the aesthetics of the newer ones and the thicker glass I haven't had a real problem with this one or need for another. The glass may look thin but it can still hold up to a good beating and I doubt that the other models are worth 2x the price.

I have been mostly using my bongs with vapcaps tips mounted on the DDavemod V2 stem and a Chillium pipe. Titanium tip on the DDavemod v2 stem and a modded (added notches to the tip to mimic the titanium tip) 2018 M Steel tip on the chillium pipe.

@MasonJar What do you like about the FC-710 over the CCG straight fab? I have a CCG klein and enjoy the pull with the FOL perc but for the first hit or so the FC-710 really shines and I love its unique chug and sound.

After some time, I find myself preferring the deeper chugging (and sound!) I get from the FC-710... Flavor is also better preserved on the FC-710. I found a simple way to test flavor retention... I plug in a well used but empty chambered vapcap on the bongs, fill them with the desired level of water then start using them with the empty vapcap. On the diffusion pumps, I can better taste the flavor derived from the empty vapcaps. Flavor leeches from the accumulation in the stem and chamber even though it is empty.

First time I used the FC-710 I already knew it was excellent for flavor retention but it was after using the above procedure where I was actually able to better compare the various bongs when it comes to flavor retention. On the other bongs you could not or could barely taste the flavor leaching from the empty vapcap.

The straght fab is good at flavor retention (but still inferior to the FC-710) but chugs a lot less when used with vapcaps. The FC-710 produces the best rattling sound maybe because the ball is bigger compared to that of the RC.

 

[EmDeemo]

Just emailed TAG to see if they can get a rattle can of some description on the go...

 

[EmDeemo]

If I start a conversation with a chinese seller about making their own version of the rattle can with the long neck, has anyone got suggestions for what might be improved/changed?

 

[bizwaxzion]

Honestly, I'd like a 14mm female joint.

 

[cybrguy]

I don't blame ya...

 

[Moses Baca]

If I start a conversation with a chinese seller about making their own version of the rattle can with the long neck, has anyone got suggestions for what might be improved/changed?

Consistent quality. I want to receive the item as it is shown in the seller's pictures.

 

[wildything]

If I start a conversation with a chinese seller about making their own version of the rattle can with the long neck, has anyone got suggestions for what might be improved/changed?

Another member tried to get a few sellers to make rattle cans but most couldn’t figure out how to get the ball inside the perc. I don’t like the direction that Stevens rattle can mouthpiece placement has taken recently but I’m not sure there’s much options and another reason I’ve stuck to the FC-710 as it almost seems like they have a mold for that model since it’s reamined pretty consistent over the years unlike Stevens’s other pieces.

 

[FlyingLow]

I'd be in if the mouthpiece were a bit higher, and provided a better view above an enail.

 

[Moses Baca]

I'm very happy with the replacement RC I received from Stevenlmz but it was a major PITA to get it. Not to mention that it wouldn't have happened at all without help from my friend @LesPlenty!

Comparison photo, replacement on the right. Note where the mouthpiece stem is attached to the body and the overall placement of the inside tubes. They sound and hit very differently. I've yet to sip bongwater from the replacement.

 

[wildything]

I'm very happy with the replacement RC I received from Stevenlmz but it was a major PITA to get it. Not to mention that it wouldn't have happened at all without help from my friend @LesPlenty!

Comparison photo, replacement on the right. Note where the mouthpiece stem is attached to the body and the overall placement of the inside tubes. They sound and hit very differently. I've yet to sip bongwater from the replacement.

That’s great! And I think It might be more productive to try to get Steven to improve his quality so no one has to deal with this issue.

 

[Moses Baca]

Good idea but good luck with it. Stevenlmz said there was nothing wrong, dhgate offered me a partial refund, @LesPlenty is the only reason anything happened. Even then Stevenlmz still wouldn't admit that there was anything wrong.

 

[EmDeemo]

TAG have replied essentially saying they're going to make a rattle can, but not for a long time, unless they hear from us asking them to make it sooner.

Email em, folks!

 

[cybrguy]

I would need an idea of price before I could commit to anything, and I suspect it will be too high for me. I'm a China glass kind of guy...

The other name for that is cheap like the beginning of this thread title...

 

[EmDeemo]

I would need an idea of price before I could commit to anything, and I suspect it will be too high for me. I'm a China glass kind of guy...

The other name for that is cheap like the beginning of this thread title...

Its just to express a level of interest to get the ball rolling, not placing an order.

 

[Stu]

I suspect it will be too high for me. I'm a China glass kind of guy...

I thought TAG was made in China, just with a stateside presence, no?

 

[Ramahs]

Consistent quality. I want to receive the item as it is shown in the seller's pictures.

That's what I'M talkin' about!!!

I would need an idea of price before I could commit to anything, and I suspect it will be too high for me. I'm a China glass kind of guy...

The other name for that is cheap like the beginning of this thread title...

Like @Stu said above, I'm pretty sure that TAG's stuff is still chinaglass...but it's reasonably thick and consistent.
The pieces all look like the pictures.

TAG just appears to have much higher QC standards than most of these DHGate sellers. The average price is a little higher than much of the wiggly/wobbly DHGate stuff, but not much higher. So, overall you're getting more bang for your buck.