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AMiA

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AMiA......do not even mess around with buying and trying different ones if you do not have a lot of experience with water units.

Get a D020-D for the absolute best all-round glass piece you can get. They are pretty cheap as well...you can get them for $23-28. I got a few from sunshinestore on dhgate.com

Thanks buddy,checking it out right now :-)

Can't be shipped to Thailand...BUMMER.
 
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Alexis

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The more simple way to get a carb hole is use of a cloud buddy.
Good evening (or good night!). Speaking of cloud buddies, I just ordered the bridge adapter from Vapefiend for only £7.99.

Im sure it was at least £15 before, more like £20? I was already decided to get one for the Herbo but had to jump on this before you lot all clear them out. I couldn't keep it from you all, so I had to just go ahead and book my place first.
https://vapefiend.co.uk/collections/glass-adapters/products/18mm-bridge-adapter
 
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cloudsosmoke

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@Alexis
£11.44 inc shipping uk
Thanks for the late night bargain lol


Is it..
If you open the carb at the end and continue to draw
you add air and you get better taste on the exhale?
 
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datayoda

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Ha ha ha. I assume you meant to post the piece rather than the MP. Is it the Mod or a clone?

The CCG fabs have been calling me for their design as well as their price point. It will be one of those or the Mod.

I had OGB make me this one for my FC UFO. Pricier than Stevens, but great for my application.
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Where can I buy that mouth piece. Looks like what I need
 
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MrMonss

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Where can I buy that mouth piece. Looks like what I need
In this case it's from OGB (not chinese). You can ask him what is your need and he will do it for you.

Nice find @Alexis, in addition this one seems to be "the original" (the one I broke).
That of Steven looks less beautiful in photo, because the arm seems longer.
I ordered the other version of Steven (the one with the carb plug in 14mm), just to test.
Delivery seems delayed because of the snow.
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
Where can I buy that mouth piece. Looks like what I need
In this case it's from OGB (not chinese). You can ask him what is your need and he will do it for you.
Yeah, I was trying to get a little further away from my UFO to keep vapes out of my face and he just started the bend earlier than standard and that did it. I also had him use a US joint so I could use it with RBT vapes, but it's a little too long to do that comfortably.

The bend and length cooled nicely tho. Everything is a compromise... :shrug:

OregonGlassBlower has also made me custom M2Ms.
 

Summer

Long Island, NY
Is it.. If you open the carb at the end and continue to draw you add air and you get better taste on the exhale?

Of course you get a rush of air when you open up the carb which aids in pushing the vapor into your lungs, but primarily, opening the carb clears the can.

Any suggestions where to get some good tubing to use with my FC UFO so I can use it it whip style ?

You can get food grade tubing from Vapexahle in 18" - 36" lengths here. I'm a newbie to all the glass accessories, but IMO, the tubing is very nice; soft & pliable. And VX products are quality.

https://www.xhl3.com/collections/accessories/products/evo-adapter-individual-pieces


Can some please see if they can answer my previously asked question:
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I have this rig:

https://www.dhgate.com/store/product/2015-new-34-5cm-height-glass-bong-with-matrix/255741536.html

The downstems are 29mm to 18mm. I want to anchor the downstem under the top lip on the ashcatcher (which appears to be 29mm) to the can joint (which appears to be 40mm). If I'm measuring correctly, I would like to know what size keck clip I need.

Anybody??? Thanks!

My reason for drilling a hole is 2 fold.

#1 it is cheap and super easy when you have a $10 glass drill bit and drill....just add water unit and put in a pale or large sink. I put the entire glass piece in a water filled pale/bucket....then use slow speed drilling while the glass is submerged just enough to be below the surface.....and go slow.

#2 adding more glass or joints...or adding a plug to pull off is still a big kluge and not half as quick and smooth (physically) of a carb action to me. Having a carb hole allows for micro airflow control when clearing your draw.

By having a small carb hole near the top of the water piece allows for a much smoother controlled draw from start to finish....and more importantly allows for quick purging of the chamber. All this allows me to use the least amount of lung power and time to get a quicker and smoother draw.

I only leave the smaller water units uncarbed because I would use my vapcap in them. Clearing those smaller units and lifting out a vapcap is no stress.

Can you please post a picture of a couple rigs w/ carb holes you've drilled? :nod:
 
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Alexis

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Is it..
If you open the carb at the end and continue to draw
you add air and you get better taste on the exhale?
I have no real experince with them, but for me at the moment it will be purely about clearing the hit with certain vaporizers without having to fidde with the vape, or the heater part and the bowl which can be finnicky and awkard to get safely loose when you are at the end of your hit and want to finish.

It is a good safeguard against blowback also, the Herbo Ti I will get has such a huge airfliw there is usually a little blowback going up through the heater when my inhale stops.

With the FC 186 I got abv shoot up through the heater. The cloud buddy should help here, the Herbo Ti injector can get caught in the bowl when trying to lift one handed to clear a hit. I will get some keck clips but wont work on all bubblers though.
I will see if there are other functional advantages with the adapter. I am interested in @MrMonss 's reports of using the cloud buddy to affect vapor production on the Ti.

Nice find @Alexis, in addition this one seems to be "the original" (the one I broke).
That of Steven looks less beautiful in photo, because the arm seems longer.
I ordered the other version of Steven (the one with the carb plug in 14mm), just to test.
Delivery seems delayed because of the snow.
Same here MrMonns. I much prefer the shape, design and tidy look of Vapefiend's one compared to Steven's. I agree it is too long, also the stopper and the joints did not look so well made. I bet my very well made Herbo Ti
bowls will fit more neatly in the Vapefiend one.

I was already going to buy this one anyway, so its nice to get a price drop.
 
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Hogni

Honi soit qui mal y pense
Bridge of the vapefiend adapter looks pretty short. Too short for the diameter of some flat top wt?

Please report.

@Alexis, why should use of the cloud buddy affect cloud production? Can't see any reason.
 
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Alexis

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Bridge of the vapefiend adapter looks pretty short. Too short for the diameter of some flat top wt?

Please report.

@Alexis, why should use of the cloud buddy affect cloud production? Can't see any reason.
Did you see @MrMonss 's post in the corner? He alluded (do you know this word Hogni? It's a good one I like it, love my rarer words me!) to such a usage and benefit when discussing the limitations of the Ti regarding instant cloud production, which he feels is far more easily achieved with the vapcaps.

But he feels that he can use the cloud buddy to generate more instant clouds with the Ti.
Im not saying I am aware of this or understand how- just the messenger bro, don't shoot me!;)

And a very good day to you friend, hope it is going well so far.
 
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Hogni

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Nice term I didnt know before - as the most ones I guess. But I'm using the German term of it.
Thanks, my friend. So far so good. Life is going on :wave:
 

LabPong

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Does anyone know of a real wide spread drown down? Trying to find one that would fit this guy and a couple others with a wider top shelf for the drop down.

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I could not seem to find one that had a real wide top (18 male) to 14 female
 

Baron23

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It is a good safeguard against blowback also

YES!!

And I agree...carbs are intened to let you clear the can but it also ensures that you draw all of the vapor out of your mouth and throat and in to your lungs where cannabinoids can be absorbed.

Also, my general understanding is that compounds are absorbed by the lungs only when gasses are actively moving over the alveoli so opening the carb keeps things moving a bit longer.

And if none of this is true...I still like them because I just like them! hahaha
 

Alexis

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YES!!

And I agree...carbs are intened to let you clear the can but it also ensures that you draw all of the vapor out of your mouth and throat and in to your lungs where cannabinoids can be absorbed.

Also, my general understanding is that compounds are absorbed by the lungs only when gasses are actively moving over the alveoli so opening the carb keeps things moving a bit longer.

And if none of this is true...I still like them because I just like them! hahaha
Thanks Baron, always appreciate your thoughts which I know are always focused on helping as much as your wisdom and experience allows.
Its funny because we have had the dead horse debate of hit/exhale technique and absorption over and over again, and many have long grown tired of it Im sure.

And yet, it seems to be coming up a lot lately in threads here and there. I actually think that this particular aspect of vaporizing and cannabis use will recieve more focus and query. It is still so unanswered in my mind. Lots of good ideas as you mention and I'm open to them all.

Now we may find out one day the deeper science of all this, except if weed becomes cheap as chips first...well then less people will care and just breathe out when they want, no financial implications at least.

For me personally it is all about getting maximum effect from my hard to provide and ensure herb supply.

If I simply wasn't worried about not having any weed for a long time within 12 months, and it honestly didn't matter if I vaped 0.5 or 1.5 in a day...then you won't see or hear me talking too much about hit holding or re-breathing! Just a different stance I mean.
 
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StormyPinkness

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Does anyone know of a real wide spread drown down? Trying to find one that would fit this guy and a couple others with a wider top shelf for the drop down.

dropD%20fit_zps9v1kdjxb.jpg


I could not seem to find one that had a real wide top (18 male) to 14 female
I would love an answer to this question too. I got a 14mm one that works on my D020-D which is wider than the D020 (which I *think* that is?). It was from thick ass glass, but it was an older version or something they didn't make anymore and it was in the clearance section. I think in total I've bought 3 others that don't fit. I bought one that was also a reclaim adapter and I have to use it with the 14mm drop down adapter that fits, so I have 2 on there.
 
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lazylathe

Almost there...
I would love an answer to this question too. I got a 14mm one that works on my D020-D which is wider than the D020 (which I *think* that is?). It was from thick ass glass, but it was an older version or something they didn't make anymore and it was in the clearance section. I think in total I've bought 3 others that don't fit. I bought one that was also a reclaim adapter and I have to use it with the 14mm drop down adapter that fits, so I have 2 on there.

I have been seeing a lot of custom drop downs on IG lately!
They have a support marble that actually rests on the table so it will never tip.
 

greenmonky1

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Does anyone know of a real wide spread drown down? Trying to find one that would fit this guy and a couple others with a wider top shelf for the drop down.

dropD%20fit_zps9v1kdjxb.jpg


I could not seem to find one that had a real wide top (18 male) to 14 female

Not the same form factor but I use this on my D020: https://www.dhgate.com/product/wholesale-glass-adapter-converter-glass-adapters/372357193.html. Unfortunately it's out of stock, but this one looks pretty similar: https://www.dhgate.com/store/product/glass-dropdown-adapter-10-styles-female-male/267852639.html. I haven't found any dropdowns in the style you posted that actually clear the sides on a D020.
 

Summer

Long Island, NY
Bridge of the vapefiend adapter looks pretty short. Too short for the diameter of some flat top wt?

You know, it's impossible to tell measurements from a picture as quite often the pics are distorted. You have to email the company for the measurements.

@Alexis, why should use of the cloud buddy affect cloud production? Can't see any reason.

Agree!

I have been seeing a lot of custom drop downs on IG lately!
They have a support marble that actually rests on the table so it will never tip.

Link please!
 

MrMonss

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@Alexis, why should use of the cloud buddy affect cloud production? Can't see any reason.

I think it's about physics, but I can not find the exact english term (call of air?).
In any case with the TI the answer is impressive, try it if you don't have (This effect also works by removing and restoring the injector on the same inspiration).

For the dropdown I can not really express myself because I broke my D20D. But I have a dropdown of similar shape (N shape) and I also think it can enter.
THIS is the one that i have, you can also use it as a carb/dropdown (i use my finger on the male joint, not the glass part)
 

Alexis

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Hi Alexis, I don't know. I've contacted them for the bridge adapter and the carbon bowl adapters. Sent them some pics about and Jane told me they want make them. No more questions they just produced them. But the bridge adapter was'nt made as I recommended. Bridge pretty long, bottom of the intakes to flat (I recommended to make them deeper for better catching of reclaim, even better to add a detachable reclaim container at the bottom of the outer joint). But they've made what the made - not REALLY lucky about.

A few weeks ago they've offered the new carbon bowl adapters too but can't find them anymore at their site.

I asked for more other shaped mouthpieces (length, angle, joints, tappers, tips) demonstrated by a lot of pics I've asked for here. Jane told me Steven is wiling to make them. Ok there is a new one (45 degree angled) and already existing mps are now offerd as replacement parts but nothing of the new ones.

And I asked for a modular piece like the Sheldon Black clone with changable mouthpieces and percs, maybe 4 of each, at least to improve modularity of the FC-MOD by offering more percs and mps for it. But never got a reply, and never got a reply to my 2, 3 further inquiries about over nearly 8w.

Now I'm a bit frustrated and lost my interest in intervention. But I'm still very interested in a more modular piece than in a "Roor Vapor" (that's the name of this bubbler).

Will ask for it just one more time with an advice asking other producer for it if they don't reply or don't have any interest. I'm pretty disappointed by their communication. I'm no beggarly petitioner!

But what I'm writing all that HERE? It's the wrong thread for it :ugh:

Perhaps I'll buy one at the Mary Jane Cannabis Convention this year in Berlin. Last year Roor offered a 20% exhibition discount on all their pieces and I was very tempted to buy this piece. But i don't think so. More than 300 € for that piece is still out of my cost limits for bubblers. I guess even 240 would be too much for my liking.
Thanks very much for replying and explaining that Hogni. It sounds like it would be very unlikely then. Oh well, I guess we will just have to try and be content without ROOR bubbler clones!

I am still really liking the UFO, with both whip and glass mouthpiece.
Here is my complete Elev8r setup, what a vape that is turning out to be! Have you seen the thread? Hands down the best tasting, purest vapor I ever tried, and I think everybody else agrees on this so far. Potency to match as well, to rival any desktop out there:


This setup with whip allows a great view of the vapor production, which is more important with a vaporizer like this so that you can see what sort of temperature you are at in case you need to speed up, slow down or pause your draw to let the heater cool down slightly when I have overheated a little.

Edit- DAMN you just cannot beat the pure taste and feel of this low temp (guessing 180-195 C). And effects to match.

Honestly- if you can find a way to keep that glass heater at precise temperature...
You have the most perfect vaporizer that has ever existed! Seriously, somebody will find a way to do this with glass or quartz.

For now I try to use my impaired senses to guess the heatups. Simply amazing when just right.
 
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Alexis

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Nice! But don't feed my VAS, bloody bastard!
You will be okay pal, I feel you have enough to keep you busy and satisfied for now, and you need to start saving for the SV4, also sell @pxl_jockey your Herbo so you can get the Digital like myself soon (excited!:nod:)

So just one more to "know" about, no harm there eh?:tup:
 
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Baron23

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Thanks Baron, always appreciate your thoughts which I know are always focused on helping as much as your wisdom and experience allows.

hahaha...actually I often think I'm often focused on venting my childish frustrations and anxiety on anybody around me! LOL

And yes, for the most part we are all....even in legal states...pretty focused on efficient use of our herb and not wasting it (even in 'cheap' states its still plenty of $$) and so I think this subject of optimization of cannibalized absorption will continue but will not be resolved until good scientific studies are done. I'm hopeful that will occur in Israel as its certainly not happening in the USA with that little shit head fascist Sessions running our Dept of Justice (what a misnomer that is....home of civil asset forfeiture....otherwise known as legal theft by your government).

I note that there are many people who have said how surprised...really shocked....at the huge effect they got from the MV-1 (honeymoon effect aside, yeah?). I have thought this to very possibly be related to the fact that their vapor path inserts fresh air into the vapor (to cool it) before it hits your mouth but the long slow draw with plenty of air seems to me to ensure that the draw gets deep into the lungs and also optimizes the time vapor is traveling over your lungs receptors.

All mental masturbation until there is some peer reviewed scientific work done on it.

Take care, Alexis. Glad you are liking your elev8tor!!
 
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Alexis

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I have thought this to very possibly be related to the fact that their vapor path inserts fresh air into the vapor (to cool it) before it hits your mouth but the long slow draw with plenty of air seems to me to ensure that the draw gets deep into the lungs and also optimizes the time vapor it traveling over your lungs receptors.
Yes I agree strongly with that logic. The Mv1 looks very interesting indeed, for me personally too for sensitivity reasons.
I certainly apply this logic when I am thinking about the long vapcap hits which are really huge but often can have such a little exhale.
Where does it go?:shrug: It goes in me!:nod: This will sure be at the heart of the Dynavap's notirious efficiency.
Other vapes Im always blowing huge clouds while trying NOT to!;)

And Im right with you too Baron on hoping to see scientific revelation on these things.
Yeah the Elev8r is cool, I saw Bud's stream on it. I hope he gives it another whirl to see just what it is capable of, flavour and effect wise. Wishing you a comfortable and enjoyable weekend Baron.

(Oh yeah, Vapefiend is already out of stock of those bridge adapters- I made sure to ordee mine first, THEN share here!:lol:)
 

MrMonss

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I certainly apply this logic when I am thinking about the long vapcap hits which are really huge but often can have such a little exhale.
Where does it go?:shrug: It goes in me!:nod: This will sure be at the heart of the Dynavap's notirious efficiency.
Other vapes Im always blowing huge clouds while trying NOT to!;)

And Im right with you too Baron on hoping to see scientific revelation on these things.

I confess that with vape I came out of my old dirty habits.
Very often, especially in the evening, I take a long draw, I swallow a big sip of beer, then I spit the vapor.. May be psychological, but I have the impression that it helps less spit steam/vapor.
 
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