Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

[Justpassedu]

I am planning to buy a new desktop... but can not decide between the flowerpot and the herborizer ti...

what I am searching ... as some of you may know I am a cloud chaser so big dense vapor clouds are very important...
I also want to be able to microdose with my new desktop and looking to get also big clouds from small loads of herb...
also I am looking for a desktop which give me big flavourfull hits... also I want to mention that I am planning to use my new desktop mainly for flowers as it is hard to get good concentrate where I live... maybe also important I from europe...

1.) big vapor clouds? (scale 0 to 10 - (0 no clouds , 10 big fat clouds of vapor))
flowerpot
herborizer ti

2.) microdose and big clouds? (scale 0-10)
flowerpot
herborizer ti

3.) taste? (scale 0-10 (0=bad taste 10=superior taste)
flowerpot
herborizer ti

thank you!

what is your opinion @lazylathe as far as I knowmyou havenboth of them and I watched your videos several times...
and of course all other members who can help me making a decision!

I have never tried a Herborizer but can tell you my honest opinion on the FlowerPot. I give question's 1,2 & 3 all a 10 , it works amazing with micrdosing , flavor is incredible and the clouds are close to combustion size. It seems it will hit all of what you are looking for out of a vape and if access to concentrate is limited go with the ShowerHead as it is the best for flowers but will also do concentrate if you ever come across it. You'r cloud chasing will stop with this vape as i don't see how they can get any bigger or better honestly.

 

[muunch]

Only other desktop I've tried are logs, but I agree with all points made above.

cloud chasing will stop with this vape as i don't see how they can get any bigger or better honestly.

 

[Danksta]

Okay I have decided to get a showerhead combo next week along with a 14mm male FP base. I already have the Lollicap, coil and controller. Can someone explain the appeal of the $40 coil holder? For now I just plan to get the SH combo and FP base to get up and running. Am I missing anything?

 

[shaolinmilk]

If I get this bundle, https://www.newvape.com/showerhead-bundle is this everything I need in order to vape dry herb and concentrate? Is there anything else to add to enhance my experience?

 

[muunch]

You'll need a showercap - the lollicap won't fit.

The handle looks nice and provides stability to the setup... think that's really it. You won't "need" it, but it's nice.

edit:

If I get this bundle, https://www.newvape.com/showerhead-bundle is this everything I need in order to vape dry herb and concentrate? Is there anything else to add to enhance my experience?

you'll be more than set... til the next round of goodies gets released

 

[Danksta]

You'll need a showercap - the lollicap won't fit.

The handle looks nice and provides stability to the setup... think that's really it. You won't "need" it, but it's nice.

edit:



you'll be more than set... til the next round of goodies gets released

Even for just flower, I should get the cap?

 

[muunch]

Even for just flower, I should get the cap?

Debatable.

For me... I'd say it's not necessary for flowers. I never use it unless I really wanna squeeze the last bit out of my flower, or I'm dabbing.

Others here like it for flowers I think, but they run lower temps than me.

I like using it like in my vid on last page with flower; no showerhead, full speed pull, 1 hit clear and baked as a potato.

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

@NewVape710,

is the fine grinder (2726) the same as the FG Armband (3076) regarding quality/consistency of grinding?
And what are the measures of used arm bands (mm)?

And why is the 3076 so much higher than the 2726?

the insides of the 2726, and the 3076 grinders are exactly the same minus the anodize.

the 3076 is 1/2" taller than the 2726.
This was lengthened to prevent thumb knuckles from rubbing together when in use, and evenly space the 8" arm bands. Over the years of making grinders people have requested a non anodized version. A weekly cleaning with a hot water, dawn dish soap, and a firm brush the grinder will run smooth for a lifetime. I personally believe the anodize is for aesthetic purposes only and the lack of it represents one less unnecessary substance our flowers come in contact with.


Hurricane Irma Update:
I'm thrilled to report that our newVape factory, and employee homes, have suffered no damage. Our factory still does not have power but it has been restored to my home. Thanks for all the concern surrounding this storm.

 

[Chicken #420]

I have never tried a Herborizer but can tell you my honest opinion on the FlowerPot. I give question's 1,2 & 3 all a 10 , it works amazing with micrdosing , flavor is incredible and the clouds are close to combustion size. It seems it will hit all of what you are looking for out of a vape and if access to concentrate is limited go with the ShowerHead as it is the best for flowers but will also do concentrate if you ever come across it. You'r cloud chasing will stop with this vape as i don't see how they can get any bigger or better honestly.

This.

I will add that the FlowerPot has completely cured me of the need or desire to look at any other deskop vaporizer. I still own an E-Nano that I purchased a few weeks before the FP... and you know what? The Nano is a GREAT vape, amazing in every way, but I just don't use it any more. I love the FP that much more!

Buy the FP, even with the added difficulty of dealing with the European 220V coil and controller. You will be glad you did!

 

[invertedisdead]

My personal opinion is that the showerhead has so much air flow that the showercap is indispensable. Sure you can vape without using the showercap but you can so so much more with the showercap.

Buying a SH without the SC is like buying a violin without the bow. Get the showercap.

Here's where I get confused, isn't a large part of the showerheads design the increased airflow? Why not just hit the regular Flowerpot if the air is to be reduced down to one hole through carb capping anyways?

I'm still not sure which one to get!

 

[Justpassedu]

Here's where I get confused, isn't a large part of the showerheads design the increased airflow? Why not just hit the regular Flowerpot if the air is to be reduced down to one hole through carb capping anyways?

I'm still not sure which one to get!

I personally feel there is definitely a increase of airflow with the Showerhead but it is not a huge difference , it is there though. The purpose being when both are carb capped you'd get the better flow with the SH . Makes it a bit easier to milk but both do milk with ease. You'll get a bit better heat retention also with the Sh due to its size. I personally use both and like both allot so it would really come down to your needs. If you are more into concentrates , than at the moment i recommend the combo that allows you to use the Dnail Sic dish , if you are more heavy on flower you'd be better off with the Sh.

 

[Chicken #420]

I purchased my ShowerHead about 10 days before I bought the ShowerCap to go with it. Here are my experiences:

The LolliCap will work (sort of...) with the ShowerHead, but it leaves a large annular gap between the LolliCap and the edges of the ShowerHead intake dish. This does serve to restrict airflow, but not to the extent that the ShowerCap does. I would say that this is definitely a case of "use the right tool for the job", but in this case you sort of CAN use a screwdriver (LolliCap) to do the job of a prybar (ShowerCap)... but just barely. For the best experience and results, buy the correct cap for the particular FlowerPot head you are using.

I would not personally run either the OG (and Wraparound version...) or the ShowerHead without owning at LEAST a LolliCap, but that's just a subjective personal choice and might not match up with the needs of the rest of you. I like the control over vapor production that the caps provide, as well as the dual-use of keeping the herb in my bowl afterward (by covering it with a cap post-heating to avoid pipe air blowback) that these tools provide.

Hope this helps!


P.S. To Edwyn and the NewVape crew, thanks for the update! I'm glad to hear you are all OK and that our favorite machine shop and money disposal facility was not damaged by the storm!

 

[btka]

This.

I will add that the FlowerPot has completely cured me of the need or desire to look at any other deskop vaporizer. I still own an E-Nano that I purchased a few weeks before the FP... and you know what? The Nano is a GREAT vape, amazing in every way, but I just don't use it any more. I love the FP that much more!

Buy the FP, even with the added difficulty of dealing with the European 220V coil and controller. You will be glad you did!

good and funny to hear this... I sold my loved e-nano (which I did not use for a long time)... to collect the funds to buy me a flowerpot or a herborizer ti...

 

[Likes2vape]

Here's where I get confused, isn't a large part of the showerheads design the increased airflow? Why not just hit the regular Flowerpot if the air is to be reduced down to one hole through carb capping anyways?

I'm still not sure which one to get!

I personally do not like using the showercap with just flowers. I do find capping restricts the draw and I find it is noticeable. I like the flavor better not capping and I can still get 1 hit extractions no problem without the shower cap. I have my controller set between 680-710 and just take a slow draw draw until I see vapor forming at that point I can pretty much pull as hard as I want. If I notice the vapor thinning out I'll slow my draw down just slightly. IMO the showercap is not needed for if you're just vaping flower.


I got the new bowl design from NV and it freaking rocks. No more worrying about dumping your screen out or the screen moving when you stir. I love it can't wait for the party bowl!!

 

[btka]

BTW...
are some members from EU, UK are interested in the flowerpot and want to buy
240V UK & EU version Electric dab Nail without Ti Nail Vapor Wax Dry Herb Temperature Controller Box and NEW VAPE FLOWER POT APPROVED

https://www.dhgate.com/product/240v-uk-version-electric-dab-nail-without/403371731.html#askquestion

for one person it would cost $120 for 3 people $105 and if we are 5 people purchasing it it would cost $79

if you are interested p.m. me please!

 

[Chicken #420]

The huge air flow of the showerhead is in fact 'the reason' to use the showercap.

I love the air flow of the showerhead and nothing is like it. That said, because of the air flow of the showerhead you can see dramatic results from using the showercap.

The showercap's only a tool to manipulate more vapor, faster, from the showerhead. Sure, using the SC momentarily adds restriction and concentrates heat but pumps the vapor in return. I use the showercap only as a tool to pump more vapor faster.

I don't use the SC through the entire draw but to get the vapor really rolling it kicks some major ass.

Steama - making the world a better place, one post at a time!

Listen to him. He knows what he's talking about!
ShowerCap and LolliCap: Vapor Modulation Devices.

 

[EmDeemo]

I'm straddling both camps re: the showercap.

For flowers, I dont find carbing necessary in the slightest. I never use it for flowers. But I'll be buying one the moment I've got the cash.

Bottom line: If you're buying the Showerhead, buy a Showercap.

The clouds tho, jesus. Keif and clouds and high temps. No coughing and the BIGGEST clouds I've ever blown. It was amazing.

 

[Danksta]

I'm pretty excited about grabbing this vape. You are guys are doing a great job selling it. This looks like a really fun system.

 

[Baron23]

Hurricane Irma Update:
I'm thrilled to report that our newVape factory, and employee homes, have suffered no damage. Our factory still does not have power but it has been restored to my home. Thanks for all the concern surrounding this storm.

Outstanding, Edwyn. My friends in Daytona dodged the bullet as well as my cousins in Tampa and Apollo Beach which looked to be ground zero for a while until the very end.

All good and thanks for letting us know that you, your family, your employees and your facility came through unscathed.

I presume without power at the plant that you are not taking new orders at the present???

Cheers

 

[Justpassedu]

One thing I am really digging about the SH is it's versatility, it's much more than simply dabs and flower. I have told myself I was going to 'dial in' the SH several times only finding I wanted either more or less heat to match the moment. Sometimes it is nice for a wide open low temp draw and other times I want to get hit in the face with thick vapor from a high temp hit.

So I find myself adjusting the temp, or using the SC all the time to match my mood. The showerhead is the only vape I have used that can do all 'vape things' so well.

I gotta say while the Sh is amazing , i agree .The 20mm with the wrap around head is also no slouch and i find it does all 'vape things' well also , i love them all haha. I am switching between the 2 week to week .

 

[EmDeemo]

The showerhead is the only vape I have used that can do all 'vape things' so well.

Agreed, completely. The only thing I 'need' here to complete the system is the new bowl, means I can have the temp up at 740 for one hitter dabs and have the flower far enough away to vape it comfortably.

 

[muunch]

I have told myself I was going to 'dial in' the SH several times only finding I wanted either more or less heat to match the moment. Sometimes it is nice for a wide open low temp draw and other times I want to get hit in the face with thick vapor from a high temp hit.

Same exact thing here.

I haven't "settled" anywhere actually.

I suppose I'll just change at will. Don't know why I thought I would end up having a constant set value anyway.

edit:

I got the new bowl design from NV and it freaking rocks. No more worrying about dumping your screen out or the screen moving when you stir. I love it can't wait for the party bowl!!

new bowl = new handle? pics?

 

[EmDeemo]

Same exact thing here.

I haven't "settled" anywhere actually.

I suppose I'll just change at will. Don't know why I thought I would end up having a constant set value anyway.

Yeah, I thought I'd have a preferred smaller range, like 580 - 620 or something. But today I've been at 740, 580, now Im at 670

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

I'd like to discuss the existing "BreakAway Handle".

I've ordered some black high temp silicone hose to begin making some solid handles for testing. https://www.mcmaster.com/#51135K152

Currently we have had 3 broken handles out of 300 sold.

Yes i've bent mine before and I do realize there weak around the cross holes.

Is it possible this weakness is actually beneficial to protecting the glass.

Sure removing the cross holes and adding silicone would strengthen the handle and I'm sure we will never hear about a broken handle again. There's a limit to how much leverage the glass joints will endure before they start snapping.

Are we moving the stress to the glass (Protecting the glass is always most important)?

I wish I could admit that this breakaway feature was intended.

Please consider the benefits of the breakaway handle next time you hand someone your flowerpot.
Or what's best for a newbie?

Perhaps a solid/silicone handle should be sold separately but not sold as the default choice.

It's sure great to be talking about flowerpot upgrades again.

 

[PoopMachine]

I'd like to discuss the existing "BreakAway Handle".

I've ordered some black high temp silicone hose to begin making some solid handles for testing. https://www.mcmaster.com/#51135K152

Currently we have had 3 broken handles out of 300 sold.

Yes i've bent mine before and I do realize there weak around the cross holes.

Is it possible this weakness is actually beneficial to protecting the glass.

Sure removing the cross holes and adding silicone would strengthen the handle and I'm sure we will never hear about a broken handle again. There's a limit to how much leverage the glass joints will endure before they start snapping.

Are we moving the stress to the glass (Protecting the glass is always most important)?

I wish I could admit that this breakaway feature was intended.

Please consider the benefits of the breakaway handle next time you hand someone your flowerpot.
Or what's best for a newbie?

Perhaps a solid/silicone handle should be sold separately but not sold as the default choice.

It's sure great to be talking about flowerpot upgrades again.

I would like to see a more robust handle at least as an option. I do agree about protecting the glass and Id be okay with a "Use at your own risk" type of thing. I have the shorty dabber in that hole now. Works great!!

What Im more interested in is a new cap design that dissipates heat better. The FP heats up the cap very quickly. Even my Dnail cap gets super hot, super fast. Some kind of dissipation between cap and the dabber would probably help a lot. Some kind of skeleton piece to dissipate the heat.