Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

[psychonaut]

I'm not a fan of the cotton wicks myself, they do work but the ceramic tanks I've tried so far have all been fantastic. I think the big problem with those cotton wicks is the oil gets thicker as it condenses in the wick and eventually will start giving burnt hits. The ceramic element just seems to melt it all into vapor. @Justpassedu linked some in the thread last week, those are the cheapest I've seen by far, I ordered 5 of them. Otherwise I've tried the liberty v9 tanks, same form factor as your aspire tank, adjustable airflow. Not very cheap though in US.

 

[muunch]

blah blah I don't read or pay attention to context (i wrote stuff about non diy portable rosin - shits for another thread, sorry)

my Ti cap lands tomorrow. Gonna blast it with my torch, like my SH...but that's somewhat faded to more blue with time. I wish it coulda stayed purpleish.

Hoping this one stays on easier with the overhang, showercap in danger of falling off soemtimes!

 

[psychonaut]

Been really mixing up the meds around the house. Trying to get a good feel for everything until my SH arrives so I can give a proper comparison. I guess I am gonna go through this all again, poor me!

Anyhow, I wanted to come back to the thread for those who are using the S&B oil pads in their FP, I highly recommend to torch them between use as there is still some residuals left that need to burn off. Also, having done a number of sessions this way (just wax on the oil pad in the FP), smaller dabs way better. A normal sized dab is going to yield about 8 considerable hits and the flavor really falls off after the 3rd or 4th hit. That first hit is insanely tasty though, not a ton of vapor but wow, bring on the drool.

 

[EmDeemo]

Temp/draw info/thought dump! Any testing I've done today has been with spent bowls. I've finally got high and now made the mistake of starting to type -

Spoiler

Well, these readings are a little torturous to take So far, I've only tested from 460f to 560f at 20 degree intervals, but some things I've noticed at all of these temps so far is...

It takes about 3 minutes for the inner bowl temp to stop ramping up in temp rapidly, even without drawing. Up till that point, the readings can obviously be a bit haphazard. After that three mins, the readings are a good 20 - 40 degrees OVER what they would be if you were using the bowl from cold.

Cool down of the bowl is obviously significantly slower than heating it up, but I didnt think re-heating a cooling bowl would get as hot as it does so quickly.

With the controller set to 560f - After leaving the head on the bowl for 4 minutes, the bowl temp reached 290f. I left the bowl cooling for 4 mins, which took the temp back down to 150f. Within 30 seconds of the head being back on the bowl, the bowl temp was back up to 230f, and within 2 minutes the bowl temp was back up to 290f. I stopped reheating the bowl at 4 minutes, bowl temp had reached 310f. As a quick comparison, 310f is setting 3 on a Volcano.

All this means taking accurate bowl temps is a bit tricky!

I'm still trying to figure out if theres any useful conclusions to make from all that obvious shit I just typed out But at least I think now I understand how some of you have had melted handles at higher temps!

I've reconfirmed what I found before too...

And this is where I got high - 560f on the controller, carb capped thru the whole draw, with a draw speed that means you can hear the air rushing through the carb caps hole (moderately fast, not pulling hard), is approx 420f/430f in the bowl. Thats pretty much full power on a Volcano. I got the same result at this temp without the carb by inhaling slowly and utilising the fast heat up time the bowl itself has; the first inhale with this might not be great but the second inhale, considering how quickly the bowl is now going to ramp up in temp, took me a little by surprise.

Just noticed that at 560f, carbed inhales can easily knock 20 degrees off the controller/coil. Uncarbed, barely 5 degrees gets knocked off.

I suppose this means if you do two bowls in a row, the second is likely to hit much harder/quicker. Also, if these kinda tables are to be believed, and if Im getting 430f at a slow inhale, uncarbed, 560f on the controller...

Good enough for me!

I'll check temps for 560f to 660f next, then try and get this into a table that makes sense.

TMI?

Been really mixing up the meds around the house. Trying to get a good feel for everything until my SH arrives so I can give a proper comparison. I guess I am gonna go through this all again, poor me!

Anyhow, I wanted to come back to the thread for those who are using the S&B oil pads in their FP, I highly recommend to torch them between use as there is still some residuals left that need to burn off. Also, having done a number of sessions this way (just wax on the oil pad in the FP), smaller dabs way better. A normal sized dab is going to yield about 8 considerable hits and the flavor really falls off after the 3rd or 4th hit. That first hit is insanely tasty though, not a ton of vapor but wow, bring on the drool.

Mine arrive tomorrow! Thanks for the info What temps were you using for those dabs?

 

[psychonaut]

What temps were you using for those dabs?

640F carb capped, looking back I should have gone lower.

 

[EmDeemo]

640F carb capped, looking back I should have gone lower.

I'll find out later

I'm concocting ideas of pre-heating my bowls for convection dabs. It seems to have quite an effect at lower temps.

540f, less than 0.1 of flower (didnt register on my shitty equipment), mixed cap and draw strength use, first draw on a fresh load but with a pre-heated bowl for like 30 seconds

Spoiler

Same bowl, same deal, just this time emptied and pre heated the bowl for 1 minute. Same load, draw number 2...

Different load, same size, same settings and method.

 

[Alexis]

@emmdeemo great videos above man. It is nice to see flower only clips where you can see the potential of the Flowerpot, when concentrates are added you are obviously going to get dense whitewalls, but your clips above show how well flower only works.

I am a bit confused by those temp charts- I mean, compared to most users, your style has been fairly low temp right? So to be at temos higher than ALL of the active compounds...

Surely that would be a less healthy and far less efficient method of ingestion? And you would be lacking the majority of medicinal benefits plus more benzene....that part is the only "bummer" on the chart actually- there ALWAYS has to be some little catch doesn't there?

And ironic that you also get other medicinal compounds at even higher temps than benzene starts.

So there must be more complex chemistry going on here, whereby the compounds are efficiently and healthily vaporized without being degraded or boiled off too quickly.

Not sure how to say it really. But temps that high have amazing effects but a bit wasteful in some ways at times, (boiling off so many lower temp actives too aggressively), and those are the maximum temps you would push a vaporizer to. It doesn't seem like you could get close to combustion there either?

I realise that in your videos above (which I really appreciated seeing how flower alone shines and how easily too) the bowl pre-heat is surely a factor. I wonder how much this approach would contribute to bowl sticking issues? Could be the only downside maybe?

All very interesting anyway, I will read though a lot of your reports when I have my own feel.

Right I must go back to bed, well hectic and bizarre day yesterday that began terribly, got worse and then ended in bliss! Hardly sleep time though, and vapcaps which was lovely at first, knowing that there might be a slightly better option to the Omnivap quite soon .

But I tire very quickly of the Vapcap due to the draw restriction. It just becomes hard work.
And takes focus and guesswork to dial in the healthier vapors consistently and still achieve fast extraction and big hits.

THIS is a huge aspect of the Flowerpot- its dialability! And your own experiments @emmdeemo are a demo of exactly that. Right, back to bed for a while- good morning!

 

[Chingas]

I bought this thing a while ago. I keep watching this thread blow up. S'pose I should actually say something about the Showerhead.

It's great!!

YOU BUY NOW!!!

When in doubt just throw it in the bowl and vape it. Flower is the best, wax is concentrated fun, but nothing beats the full personality that flower has. This vapes best friend is the Supreme v3. They hold hands while they skip your brane over the rainbow. The Apollo and Hercules are rolling blunts in the corner. The Mighty nods his approval. The OmniVap gives the finger with the left and a highfive with the right.

The flowerpot tells them all where to sit. Best vape there is.

 

[Pyr0]

Just had a text on my phone to let me know I need to pay £28 import fees for my DHL package
Tracking it says - Estimated Delivery: Monday, October 30, 2017 By End of Day

 

[darkspider64]

FINALLY
SUPER EXCITED AND IMPATIENT !

A great week to You all !

EDIT: Yes.. @Pyr0.
I didn t notice, I posted in the wrong thread b4.
Mistakes happen. Thx for understanding !

P.S. Dunno if spam was the right word, but i respect ur `opinion` anyway.

 

[Pyr0]

@darkspider64 Why are you spamming this thread?
If people want a portable, they can go the portable section

[EDIT] I see you've now edited your post

 

[VapeFiend.com]

@VapeFiend.com or whoever may know this: Does the starterkit from vapefiend come with uk and eu plug?

Thanks in advance, have a great day all!

Sorry, we forgot to add this option. You can select either- it will be available as an option on the site today.

 

[Doktor Dub]

Sorry, we forgot to add this option. You can select either- it will be available as an option on the site today.

Thanks a bunch, it s a great package! Which will be bad for my wallet

BTW - is there any reason to wait till i can get it with the new cap if i plan to just use the Showerhead? Don t want to wait but don t want to buy double either...

 

[btka]

one month is gone since my fp is in customs... this week I was able to speak with spmeone from the customs.... today it passed customs... they told me they thought it is a e-cigarette and that is why it did take so long... if I would not be able to speak with someone from the customs, I wonder if and when I would have got it (if ever)... thought they send normaly an information or so... maybe someone from the customs liked my fp... it is really silly... and tomorrow we have holidays... so hope I will get my fp finaly on friday...

 

[darkspider64]

one month is gone since my fp is in customs... this week I was able to speak with spmeone from the customs.... today it passed customs... they told me they thought it is a e-cigarette and that is why it did take so long... if I would not be able to speak with someone from the customs, I wonder if and when I would have got it (if ever)... thought they send normaly an information or so... maybe someone from the customs liked my fp... it is really silly... and tomorrow we have holidays... so hope I will get my fp finaly on friday...

I m really sorry to hear that.
That s the main thing I m worried about aswell.
And 1 of the main reasons (and the plug), I `couldn t` order the controller from them.
Did they ask what it is for ?
I hope You`ll get it soon.
Let us know what happens.
Have a great day !

 

[Danksta]

Man o man this thing continues to amaze me. Last week I was all about the low temp 525 capped/uncapped bowls and this week it's all about one hit extraction at 700. It's pretty amazing how you can take a big ole bong rip and kill a bowl like the old days of combustion. The flavor is on point too if you take it all in one hit. It's pretty impressive to me that 700 tastes this good to me after a week stuck on 525.

The other thing I love about the FP is what I have is all I really need. It's great to see that the bowl is getting further designed and we will have glass bowl options, but the current setup is pretty perfect as it is. Truly one of the best investments I've ever made.

 

[VapeFiend.com]

Thanks a bunch, it s a great package! Which will be bad for my wallet

BTW - is there any reason to wait till i can get it with the new cap if i plan to just use the Showerhead? Don t want to wait but don t want to buy double either...

Although the new Ti cap looks great, I am very much enjoying using the original cap, and I don't think the new one will improve functionality much. I could be wrong though, I haven't tried the new cap.

 

[Pyr0]

I think the original cap is way too heavy for my liking
I was testing fit on my glass last night and it toppled off, hitting the glass loudly
Luckily no breakage this time, but I really, really want the new Ti cap now

 

[btka]

I m really sorry to hear that.
That s the main thing I m worried about aswell.
And 1 of the main reasons (and the plug), I `couldn t` order the controller from them.
Did they ask what it is for ?
I hope You`ll get it soon.
Let us know what happens.
Have a great day !

yes they asked what s inside the package... I told them it is for aromatherapy... you can use it with essential oils or herbs...
haha...

another fc member from austria did not have any problems with the customs...

 

[Justpassedu]

Got some new glass the other day , lots of diffusion but the small can really tricked me , this hit took me out at 623f using the Sh.

@NewVape710 those carts are no good for thick liquids or rosin, you would be wasting more. They have a cotton wick and while it may work they will eventually get clogged. Try looking for something with a ceramic wick. Try maxvapornail.com for good cartridges , a few other companies make them also.
https://maxvapornail.com/products/glass-cartridge-with-ceramic-core-and-preheater-coil

These are fairly new and supposed to work well also : https://maxvapornail.com/collections/featured-products/products/glass-cartridge-with-ceramic-core-v2

 

[squigger]

I dont have a stand whats something i can get multiple of for cheap. Also this the bowl handle gets crazy hot too.

 

[Shooby]

I dont have a stand whats something i can get multiple of for cheap. Also this the bowl handle gets crazy hot too.

It's worth getting a good stand like the large round stand for $50. It is very stable and has places for tools.

https://www.newvape.com/flowerpot-stand-debowler




The OG cap is awesome, no doubt about it.

That was my problem last week. I didnt have a stand to use for the FP and many on here mentioned a coffee mug which i have been using since. However, i dont like using the coffee mug as its not that sturdy but definitely works. So instead of being annoyed with the coffee mug, i ordered the NV FP tray & base which should arrive today along with the pax loading tool. I think i am more excited for the pax loading tool than the stand.

I agree, just order it!

And next week, its gonna be the fine grinder, (spent hours researching grinders too) dabber stand and a few dabbers. Oh yea, and the Ti screens that i just noticed. Keep up the awesome design and machining @NewVape710

 

[ichibaneye]

Hey my beloved family. I apologise for not being here and active on the forum for the past two weeks. I had a great trip to California followed by a trip to Kodiak island in Alaska for a bit of hunting for my birthday.

I wanted to share that I'll be taking another week off from the forum as I need some time to process the deaths of close family members two days apart from one another. I lost my grandmother unexpectedly last night and my cousin the day before. To tell you all the truth I'm in a fog, a fog that is somewhat reminiscent of war. I feel pretty numb right now and very tired.

Life is a beautiful and fleeting state. Embrace everyday is if it's you're birthday. Everyday spent breathing is a beautiful thing. Embrace every moment. Thanks to you all here that are in my prayers almost daily and to NV for adding to the sweetness that is this life that I love and passionately embrace so much. As always, God bless and cheers!

 

[Shooby]

Hey my beloved family. I apologise for not being here and active on the forum for the past two weeks. I had a great trip to California followed by a trip to Kodiak island in Alaska for a bit of hunting for my birthday.

I wanted to share that I'll be taking another week off from the forum as I need some time to process the deaths of close family members two days apart from one another. I lost my grandmother unexpectedly last night and my cousin the day before. To tell you all the truth I'm in a fog, a fog that is somewhat reminiscent of war. I feel pretty numb right now and very tired.

Life is a beautiful and fleeting state. Embrace everyday is if it's you're birthday. Everyday spent breathing is a beautiful thing. Embrace every moment. Thanks to you all here that are in my prayers almost daily and to NV for adding to the sweetness that is this life that I love and passionately embrace so much. As always, God bless and cheers!

Our deepest sympathies go out to you and your family. Be strong and and I am sure the FP can help cope with the fogginess.

 

[Baron23]

Hey my beloved family. I apologise for not being here and active on the forum for the past two weeks. I had a great trip to California followed by a trip to Kodiak island in Alaska for a bit of hunting for my birthday.

I wanted to share that I'll be taking another week off from the forum as I need some time to process the deaths of close family members two days apart from one another. I lost my grandmother unexpectedly last night and my cousin the day before. To tell you all the truth I'm in a fog, a fog that is somewhat reminiscent of war. I feel pretty numb right now and very tired.

Life is a beautiful and fleeting state. Embrace everyday is if it's you're birthday. Everyday spent breathing is a beautiful thing. Embrace every moment. Thanks to you all here that are in my prayers almost daily and to NV for adding to the sweetness that is this life that I love and passionately embrace so much. As always, God bless and cheers!

I am so sorry for your losses.....at 65 y.o., this is becoming more common in my life but its still no easier to absorb.

My best wishes for healing and peace to you.