Brexit - The Great British EU Dilema

[Grobalot]

hahahaha i'll have to have a look into that one. johnny would probably done a better job wizzed of his tits with a can of supers in hand and a JPS Black in the other. im just gona get ripped and watch the world burn, whos with me? lol

 

[Dank_Star]

hahahaha i'll have to have a look into that one. johnny would probably done a better job wizzed of his tits with a can of supers in hand and a JPS Black in the other. im just gona get ripped and watch the world burn, whos with me? lol

I second that emotion !

 

[macbill]

I hope the UK can get this behind them and find a successful way forward.

 

[Grobalot]

I hope the UK can get this behind them and find a successful way forward.

we do too, mate. we're not all as bad as the media make us out to be lol

 

[Dank_Star]

I hope the UK can get this behind them and find a successful way forward.

Thanks for that @macbill, looks like we need all the support we can get. I'm not sure whether to watch "Question Time" on bbc or continue reading this old science fiction novel I picked up....somehow both activities feel very similar lol.

 

[phattpiggie]

Some fukers are making a shit load of money off the back of this shit show.

 

[Grobalot]

Thanks for that @macbill, looks like we need all the support we can get. I'm not sure whether to watch "Question Time" on bbc or continue reading this old science fiction novel I picked up....somehow both activities feel very similar lol.

if your big into reading, and especially sci-fi, get on Asimov! any of the books are brill but the empire series is fantastic! also the Enders Game series by Orson Scott Card is one of my favourites! the movie was wank but the books are where its at! I'll check out tonight QT tomorrow when im not so impaired haha

Some fukers are making a shit load of money off the back of this shit show.

too fucking right dude! us plebs won't see any of it though lol.
love your work dude, was a big fan when i was insta and its amazing to see a bit more detail in your threads

 

[Dank_Star]

if your big into reading, and especially sci-fi, get on Asimov!

I'm on a bit of a "classic sci-fi" tip at the moment and have The Foundation Trilogy in my sights, I'd like to build a small-ish but high calibre collection. I'm currently reading "Non Stop" by Brian Aldiss which I'd heartily recommend - no novel this short should be so immersive and compelling. I watched most of QT and the question I was personally left with was this ; Would Gina Miller consider a career in politics ?

 

[ClearBlueLou]

I'm on a bit of a "classic sci-fi" tip at the moment and have The Foundation Trilogy in my sights, I'd like to build a small-ish but high calibre collection. I'm currently reading "Non Stop" by Brian Aldiss which I'd heartily recommend - no novel this short should be so immersive and compelling. I watched most of QT and the question I was personally left with was this ; Would Gina Miller consider a career in politics ?

Aldiss is some hard-core grey-zone material...at least shift gears with some Moorcock, Spinrad, RA Wilson....

if you’ve not read Illuminatus! I highly recommend - funny, out-there, perfect for “our crowd”...

now you’ve got me started: Neal Stephenson’s got fine stuff, Ursula Le Guin, James Tiptree, Larry Niven (*without* Jerry Pournelle), Iain Banks’ Cluster books

 

[Gray Area]

Some fukers are making a shit load of money off the back of this shit show.

Absolutely mate... that's what it's all and only about. Every normal leave voting person has been conned. Simple as that.

Take this fucker:

Crispin Odey.
He donated £800,000 to the Brexit campaign, £32,000 to Farage. He donated £10,000 to Herr Johnson in June and he's donated over a million to the Tory party altogether.
He also trades in 'short' or 'put' options. Essentially a bet that something is going to drop in value. It's a way for fund managers to make money on unstable markets.
In 2016 Crispin here made £220 million by betting the pound would crash. He certainly seems to know how the markets work. He made a shedload more when Johnson became PM.
Last week he placed £299 million in short options on 16 huge British firms.
He helped fund Brexit, and is now going to make a shitload of money on the damage it will do to the economy.

This and lucrative trade deals for the elite is what Brexit is for. The Tories laughing at everyone quoting "the will of the people". They couldn't care less about the people.

Edit to add (about sci-fi). Love Banks and Niven (again without pournelle). Nobody mentioned Dune yet. Bit of a haul but great stuff. Also no mention of Philip K Dick either...???

 

[Grobalot]

This and lucrative trade deals for the elite is what Brexit is for. The Tories laughing at everyone quoting "the will of the people". They couldn't care less about the people.

it's such a ridiculous state of affairs. Cameron set the ball rolling not realising (i think anyway) it'd go to leave and left that dumb-fuck May to emerge from the fields oh wheat (with a capital H) and continue shafting us creating a predictable economic shit-show for, as you say, the elite to get richer and the vast majority of the public to squirm and panic. the will of the people never came into it other than a flimsy platitude to the public that'd we'd be respected. faaaaaaak this, i want to emigrate lol. i know its a bit pearl clutchy, but i worry for my kids future more than anything else in this.

an aside on the subject of sci-fi,
Philip K Dick is a master, the short stories are amazing and A Scanner Darkly is one of my favourites, but Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep is my all time favourite book ever. The Ender series and the Shadow Saga by Orson Scott Card is epic, the two run parallel and they are very very well written.
Frank Herbert is a Don. the Dune series is very enthralling, even if it is a bit arduous in terms of pages left to read and to little time to read them lol. i think the film really did do it justice too! imho that is.
Gene Wolfe, Conan Doyle, Morcock, Stephen R. Donaldson's Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, Raymond E. Feist Magician series or anything by him is always good. The Conan Series by Robert E. Howard is epic! Arthur C Clark is a master too!
@Dank_Star Foundation and Empire are a brilliant series. The Robot Series is amazing too, very in depth, very intriguing and very twisty.


i apologise if a few of my posts lead this thread astray lol
anyone interested in a thread for us bookworms? lol if one doesn't exist already that is.

 

[Dank_Star]

Thanks @ClearBlueLou and @Grobalot for your recommendations. I read the Dune Trilogy last summer (having sought out pre-owned copies of the New English Library editions from the 70s or 80s.) I have The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch ready to read and also purchased the Dangerous Visions short story collection which has contributions by a lot of the sci-fi greats...should we move the literary aspect of our dialogue to a more appropriate thread guys ?

Cameron set the ball rolling not realising (i think anyway) it'd go to leave

Totally agree with you on that score. David Cameron held that referendum expecting only one outcome, then heroically resigned when it didn't go the expected way.

 

[Grobalot]

@Dank_Star @Gray Area and @ClearBlueLou i've tagged you in a new thread so we dont keep going off topic lol
to mods and anyone else, sorry for derailing the thread. my humblest of apologies

Totally agree with you on that score. David Cameron held that referendum expecting only one outcome, then heroically resigned when it didn't go the expected way.

it just goes to show how out of touch these people are with the general public. But labour are just as bad, in my opinion. i agree with some aspects of socialism to a degree (a very small degree but i degree nun the less), but I can't see that buck-toothed commie doing any better for us in the Tory's place (sorry for any offence to anyone with opposite points of view). Over reaching social plans to claw back companies into the governments hands just doesn't sit right with me, and we still wouldn't see any profit trickling down to the lower levels of society. I'm all for free market capitalism but i don't think anything like that can be achieved properly again under Tory, LibDem or Labour governments and succeed. too much power in the wrong hands has corrupted too deeply and self serving scum are, unfortunately, the norm now in all parties. too much corporate interest is invested into all this shit and it's opening doors to the wrong sort of deals, especially when a government is supposed to have public interest at it's core, not profiteering from peoples justified fears and ignoring the supposed "will of the people". I voted remain and regretted it not long afterwards. my wife went the opposite way but it didn't effect out relationship in the slightest and now im in the middle trying not to give a fuck about something we have no control over.
rant done lol

 

[Dank_Star]

Lol cant say I disagree with any of the above @Grobalot. When I look at the state of UK and US politics (it beggars believe that earlier this week a President possibly facing impeachment was patting the back and offering words of reassurance to a PM about to return to the UK where his activities have been deemed unlawful) I often think that changing political parties isn't enough anymore, its a whole new paradigm that's required...preferably with futurity and sustainability at its heart I also voted remain along with the majority of the nation I live in. But as we're Scots, that doesn't seem to matter a fuck !

 

[Grobalot]

Lol cant say I disagree with any of the above @Grobalot. When I look at the state of UK and US politics (it beggars believe that earlier this week a President possibly facing impeachment was patting the back and offering words of reassurance to a PM about to return to the UK where his activities have been deemed unlawful) I often think that changing political parties isn't enough anymore, its a whole new paradigm that's required...preferably with futurity and sustainability at its heart I also voted remain along with the majority of the nation I live in. But as we're Scots, that doesn't seem to matter a fuck !

i agree dude, it implies something is wrong when two of the most powerful men in the world are as much of a joke as each other. trump has done some good, dont get me wrong, but something seems off about it all. i swear clown world isn't a joke. no sense of morality or discipline and all out degeneracy in our western culture has lead up to alot of frustration and shit that should be accounted for.
i was all up for Scottish independence and the right to rule as you see fit.
possibly a bit controversial, but im not up for globalism as a whole, not with current level of overarching corruption and lack of empathy for the population as a whole.
their isn't a new socioeconomic system that could replace the current order and succeed and definitely no old system that some on the far left are trying to push.
to quote The Postal Service "wake me up when this is all over" lol

 

[ClearBlueLou]

Absolutely mate... that's what it's all and only about. Every normal leave voting person has been conned. Simple as that.

Take this fucker:

Crispin Odey.
He donated £800,000 to the Brexit campaign, £32,000 to Farage. He donated £10,000 to Herr Johnson in June and he's donated over a million to the Tory party altogether.
He also trades in 'short' or 'put' options. Essentially a bet that something is going to drop in value. It's a way for fund managers to make money on unstable markets.
In 2016 Crispin here made £220 million by betting the pound would crash. He certainly seems to know how the markets work. He made a shedload more when Johnson became PM.
Last week he placed £299 million in short options on 16 huge British firms.
He helped fund Brexit, and is now going to make a shitload of money on the damage it will do to the economy.

This and lucrative trade deals for the elite is what Brexit is for. The Tories laughing at everyone quoting "the will of the people". They couldn't care less about the people.

Edit to add (about sci-fi). Love Banks and Niven (again without pournelle). Nobody mentioned Dune yet. Bit of a haul but great stuff. Also no mention of Philip K Dick either...???

Can’t think of everything all at once, brother - the head explodes...then there’s the mess...but Dune (skip the follow-ups)

 

[Dank_Star]

I left a question on the book thread for you guys to get the ball rolling over there

Edit : there is another book thread but I've posted on Bookworm corner too. Apologies if I sent anyone on a detour round FC !

 

[Grobalot]

I left a question on the book thread for you guys to get the ball rolling over there

Edit : there is another book thread but I've posted on Bookworm corner too. Apologies if I sent anyone on a detour round FC !

i should have searched for an existing one first lol

 

[macbill]

 

[Dank_Star]

So did anyone else think "Letwin" was another composite word like "Brexit" until he spoke in Parliament yesterday ? lol...and why isn't "brextention" in our vocabularies yet ?

 

[macbill]

U.K. to Destroy Commemorative 50p Coins in Brexit Meltdown
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...oy-commemorative-50p-coins-in-brexit-meltdown
Thousands of 50-pence coins minted to commemorate Brexit on Oct. 31 will be melted down after Prime Minister Boris Johnson accepted an extension from the European Union, two people familiar with the matter said.

 

[Dank_Star]

I really think its time one of his advisers took Mr Johnson to one side, and explained to him quietly and discreetly that a key part of being Prime Minister is governing. Since his tenure as PM began he has signally failed in this area with all the focus being on well, breaking the law mainly...oops sorry ! Brexit.

 

[Grobalot]

I've actually given up on watching or reading anything to do with it now lol. bin on a brexit blackout for the past couple of weeks, it's embarrassing to see.
he's doing everything May did first time round from what i can gather recently. probably have a catch up on what bin going on, over the weekend but i know im not going to like what i see.
all i know is it's effecting some of my prescribed medication already, which isn't cool and could cause me to develop serotonin syndrome... again, if i can't get it or have to wait for longer than 48 hours, which made me very ill the last time it happened and can lead to seizures and or death, which is lovely lol. that was my fault the last time though and i cant get double ups as they are controlled substances and very low stock nationwide.
emigration has never been so tempting haha

 

[Dank_Star]

Hey @Grobalot nice to see you here again. That's a terrible state of affairs with your medication and I sincerely hope you're able to maintain your health and wellbeing. Cant blame you for giving up on the Brexit process, when you think it cant possibly get any worse or more farcical it just kinda does ! Due to some rare cloudless night skies lately I haven't been to bed before 3am since maybe Saturday I'm not quite sure. I've been taking the opportunity to indulge in some stargazing and observing the Orion Nebula (which is becoming something of an autumn/winter obsession with me) "Never let the bastards grind you down"

 

[Grobalot]

@Dank_Star thanks dude. it's one of the meds im currently coming off but abrupt stops cause more shit than its worth haha. only a few weeks of withdraw left to go and its not the worst i've ever came off lol.
it's just a massive embarrassing mess. like an episode of black mirror but more horrifying
it's the damage it's causing between certain groups in society. like we needed any more cultural divides emerging lol.
i have a cemetery not far from me that i like to go sit in on one of the rare occasions i have a spliff. we have the white LED street lamps and i live close to a country park and it makes a massive difference in being able to look up and actually see clusters. creepy as fuck but i like it like that lol. not long since got rid of my telescope. want a new one but it'll have to wait haha.

hopefully we'll all come out of this unscathed but only time will tell