I finally got my 5-pack of V9 liberty tanks in the mail today, only 2 weeks on the boat from china, not too bad. Initial impressions are pretty good, and to cut to the chase,
YES GUYS! you can TC! It wasn't too hard to hunt down the right settings, and I borrowed a tip from
@Steven's recent update about the Veco tank which uses a very similar heater to choose
TCR 140. So it appears the V9's ccells use an SS coil wire, but using TC-SS (TCR 120) didn't make much vapor, even at high temps. I tried TCR-200-245, and it worked, but was too hot even at mid-300s temp.
TCR 140, 8w, temps from 360-400F make pretty good consistent clouds.
Since the heat for vaporizing mostly comes from the ceramic coil around the wire, rather than the steel wire itself, I think giving the wire a little more time to heat the ceramic cylinder with a higher TCR allows for a reasonable temperature range to make good vape at #140.
Note: These tanks are from 1.2-1.3Ω, so TC will only work on a more up-to-date, quality TC mod. Many subpar, older mods only support TC up to 1.0Ω, so don't try it with a crap TC mod, just fire at 3-5w in power mode then.
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These tanks are very easy to fill with the removeable center post. Contact for the little coil to the tank / atomizer base is acheived through an innovate threaded squish post with little channels on the side of the thread to allow squeezed oil to move up into the glass tank area. So you fill directly into the threads, but electrical contact won't be blocked by oil (like on the cubis) because of the side-channels. Clever design.
Good / bad news: the center post of the coil theoretically is "rebuildable" since you can take out the pin and silicon grommet, but the space is so small, I can't think of anything to fit inside the space. It's too small to fit even my tiny 5mm donut I was hoping to try rebuilding one of these with.
(that would taste alot better for sure)
More good: these tanks are made with no cotton or fiber wick, just the porous silica ceramic cylinder which acts as the heater and wick in one.
More good: the 4 tiny wicking holes are situated very low in the tank when the post is screwed in, so this tank
should be very efficient in vaping up the last few drops of oil. (better than my large tanks) Big air bubbles from the holes pop up after puffs, indicating aggressive wicking and air flow. The air flow with 3 / 3 holes open is a little restrictive, but pretty good for a small tank still.
Kinda bad: the flavor, not so great on this tank, but gets a passing grade, it's ok.
About what I was expecting for a silica ceramic heater. Dry-hitting it during setup had a pretty gross taste of a metal wire and a hot stone (that's what it is)
After filling one of these tanks with htfse and a few soft, wicking-up puffs, it's tasting ok after tuning the TC settings. I have some of this same oil that's been filled on a dual 7mm donut coil on a cubis pro mini for many months, which is thicker and not as fresh from being puffed on hundreds of time, but the same htfse oil still tastes much better and more subtle on the donut
I think the faint metal taste on ccell coils is what spoils the fine taste and holds it back for me.
Oh well. The ccell doesn't taste bad stiill, and I know alot of people will enjoy it's (to be proven?) reliability and convenience and ease to set up and use, and low cost. (~$5 each)
I'm not used to smaller tanks, this 0.5ml tank is even smaller than I expected, and it does look a little
out-of-place on even the smallest TC mods. But I wouldn't fire it up any other way
(unregulated pen thumbs down)
Edit: More good: Battery sipper
I just recharged the little 1500mah evic basic, and after about 40
rapid nibble puffs of htfse vapor on the V9, I still have 95% charge (4.12v ---> 4.05v) so this thing will go forever even on a small battery, multiple hundreds of puffs even on a small cell!
It only pulls 2.5a to do 8w on this coil.
Great, hopefully those tanks can be a solid upgrade for you.
Just to be clear, the baby beast RBA is the only RBA coil to match your baby beast tank, you can build some interesting coils on it, but it will probably leak on you still with the bottom air.
The TFV8 X-baby is a separate tank from the baby beast, and the RBA coil for the x-baby is a separate item also, even though the tank should probably have it included. The x-baby is the only SMOK tank you can rely on to not leak out on you right now.
The veco is alot more user-friendly to set up, and the tank comes with 1 traditional and 1 ccell coil to start you with, but you might as well get an extra pack or 2 of ccells for the veco, they only cost about a couple bucks or so.
I believe all the EUC ccells are SS wire so you can use TC-SS mode on any TC mod with this tank, but you might want to try TCR 140 as I was mentioning above. Use about 25-40w depending on what coil you use, it will be printed on the coil case.
Actually I don't have any RDAs unless you consider the DTV3 to be one, not really, or that would be poorly suited to an inception coil?
Perhaps you can recommend a decent cheap RDA to use, preferably something post-less. If it soaks the oil into the coil during use, I can see how inverting it to insert into a glass rig would be ok. (no need to hold it upright like my DTV3) Maybe an RDA with a glass top to see that vapor billow and poof up inside before entering the glass joint?
I know what you mean with the too terpy effect with live resin on the DTV3. I actually kinda like it and find it to be a type of pleasantly overwhelming mild irritating sensation
, if that paradox can make sense. With good live resin, it's not an overall negative sensation like from poorly-terpenated distillates. I think the relatively lower temperatures most people use on their donuts vs. a hotter quartz banger is a factor in you getting or not getting that terpene irritation.
I've tried a few distillates (thclear) that are overly terpenated, and / or mixed with a cheap terpene mix that has
too much of
small set of terpenes (spiking it with the limonene?
), and not
small amounts of a
larger set of diverse terpenes (aka full spectrum) and the result is a fake-tasting, throat-gagging vapor.
However, I've tried several strains of "gold drop" distillate syringes, which is a much more viscous, less diluted product, and the taste is spot on
, with little to no throat or sinus issues when vaped at low temp. So clearly, gold drop is putting the effort to properly source / match the terpenes, and the flavor is actually pleasant and closely matching the strain too!
I think what I'm trying to say, is to not paint all distillate with the same brush, the purity of the product and quality of the terp mix is key
I don't think anyone said that, but I believe live resin and most BHO is not inherently de-carbed. When I see detailed tests for live-resin, it almost always has nearly all the thc content as thca. Where did this rant come from? I thought we were talking carts / tanks for distillate? co2 oil is also great for tanks. Whenever anyone says they have / need a tank that works great for distillate oil, it necessarily also works fine with co2 oil by default.
