bobothevaper
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How much does the wand output? Anyone know?
Battery Free Ganz - The Flare Induction heater
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SockPuppetTheatrics
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I think someone said in another thread (possibly the Tempest or Forge threads) that SS balls wouldn't be impacted by an induction heater; the electromagnetic current (or whatever; I'm probably butchering the terminology) doesn't penetrate deeply enough to impact much more than the induction layer. SS FMJ is probably the best bet. I want to say the production version of the Tempest is getting a new induction layer, but I'm not 100% sure of that.
Nevermind, I am sure of that: https://madheaters.co.uk/products/tempest-beta-upgrade-kit
It'll be interesting to see if it makes a difference with the Flare.
rebelFarmer
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It does, I tried one on mine to see.
VapingYogi
Pranayama; of a sort.
AndyO
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You did order the Fusion, right? That wasn't a bonus?
kokolokokolokon
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I would like ti test with the thermocore, but I dont have it (even that anvil is not mine
).Maybe the thermocore has the same problem than the tempest with the flare
Yeah. It looks like a firmware limitation, like the yllih (which doesn’t detect the tempest). No logic when the coppercore can get more power than the tempest.
Of course im going to do more tests! I hope i get the new batteries today
Yes it fits. But, at least with a silver ring
But if you remove the magnetic layer then the power goes from 65/70W to 90W…
I dont thing so. If it is a firmware limitation then the only option to make it work better in the flare is to use a less magnetic layer, something counterproductive in theory.
I was expecting to use it at 100/110w with the tempest to reach that sweet point the wand has in the first heat up, and even more.
I can say it can heat an armored cap like a normal cap in terms of time. The hyperdyn super fast but you cook the walls a lot (a device design failure). I need to get the sweet point between power and height with the fusion 2.
I will post results and configs
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BushRanger
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VapingYogi
Pranayama; of a sort.
Short version - been playing for maybe 2 hours.I would like ti test with the thermocore, but I dont have it (even that anvil is not mine
Maybe the thermocore has the same problem than the tempest with the flare
Yeah. It looks like a firmware limitation, like the yllih (which doesn’t detect the tempest). No logic when the coppercore can get more power than the tempest.
Of course im going to do more tests! I hope i get the new batteries today
Yes it fits. But, at least with a silver ring
But if you remove the magnetic layer then the power goes from 65/70W to 90W…
I dont thing so. If it is a firmware limitation then the only option to make it work better in the flare is to use a less magnetic layer, something counterproductive in theory.
I was expecting to use it at 100/110w with the tempest to reach that sweet point the wand has in the first heat up, and even more.
I can say it can heat an armored cap like a normal cap in terms of time. The hyperdyn super fast but you cook the walls a lot (a device design failure). I need to get the sweet point between power and height with the fusion 2.
I will post results and configs
I agree that the Flare isn’t working as well with the Tempest, Anvil ThermoCore or Anvil DuraCore as I hoped maxing out at 60W or 70W for the ThermoCore… it sort of was fumbling at the top end of the heat - by that I mean the way the device heats the listed devices means the bowl gets heated (Tempest & TA) which I don't like exactly.
I was dumb and used 105W on the TA3 and ended up in a ball of smoke.
I think the Flare heats more of the device that the Forge does which is interesting.
Need more time and to clean my bloody combusted TA’s
I was convinced by … the dozen or so people who kept asking me if the Fusion 2 worked in the Forge to buy one.
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kokolokokolokon
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It works with less wattage in the better devices for IH
and more wattage in the others.The coppercore can be heated with 120W without fmj.
I tried a heat up with the tempest at 70W. It gives good flavor but not the great perfomance it gives with the wand. Maybe it needed more time. I´ll keep testing
The coil is big
FlyingJustice
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kokolokokolokon
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Depends. But with the tempest it reaches 90/100w. At least the first heat ups
VapingYogi
Pranayama; of a sort.
I am SO dumb... I only just noticed you can adjust the height of the bottom of the Flare where the device goes in... that changes a few things...
Initially (first attempts) :
Forge is better for the Tempest and Anvil & VerdaVap
Flare is better for the TA3, TA4 & Fusion 2
I do like the fact the Flare is SILENT... unlike the Forge which beeps and squeals all the Fing time
Initially (first attempts) :
Forge is better for the Tempest and Anvil & VerdaVap
Flare is better for the TA3, TA4 & Fusion 2
I do like the fact the Flare is SILENT... unlike the Forge which beeps and squeals all the Fing time
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Singularity Walker
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That was my exact fear when I read they were tuning the device to try & detect mass and adjust the wattage in use instead of allowing the user selected wattage to be used.
Could this (user selectable wattage) be something they allow through a firmware or software download?
kokolokokolokon
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There is. But works with the devices with no limit
There is "boost mode" also on the flare by pressing the 2 big buttons simultaneously.
kokolokokolokon
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Here we go.
Maybe these are not the best configs but I try it in the time I had.
Flare with the coppercore and xl chamber.
120W 21 Sec:
Flare with the coppercore and xl chamber.
100W 32 Sec:
Flare with the coppercore and xl chamber.
120W 31 sec (passing the click):
Flare with armored cap and 5fin tip.
100W 14 sec:
Flare with armored cap and 5fin tip.
120W 13 sec:
Maybe these are not the best configs but I try it in the time I had.
Flare with the coppercore and xl chamber.
120W 21 Sec:
Flare with the coppercore and xl chamber.
100W 32 Sec:
Flare with the coppercore and xl chamber.
120W 31 sec (passing the click):
Flare with armored cap and 5fin tip.
100W 14 sec:
Flare with armored cap and 5fin tip.
120W 13 sec:
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kokolokokolokon
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Flare with the hyperdyn.
100W 20 sec:
Flare with the woodwynd.
70W 10 sec:
Flare with fusion 2.
120W 29 sec:
Flare with fusion 2.
100W 36 sec:
Flare with the tempest.
Boost mode (70W i guess because it is limited and i get the same results) 45 sec:
100W 20 sec:
Flare with the woodwynd.
70W 10 sec:
Flare with fusion 2.
120W 29 sec:
Flare with fusion 2.
100W 36 sec:
Flare with the tempest.
Boost mode (70W i guess because it is limited and i get the same results) 45 sec:
kokolokokolokon
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Flare with naked tempest (no ih layer, no calibration module).
95W 23 sec:
Flare with convector.
80W 10 sec (with reheats):
Flare with the pipe X.
85W 10 sec (with reheats):
I hope i wrote everything right.
I wish i could do this with new batteries, but i still waiting them to arrive.
And sorry for consecutive posts. I cant make a post with more than 5 media
95W 23 sec:
Flare with convector.
80W 10 sec (with reheats):
Flare with the pipe X.
85W 10 sec (with reheats):
I hope i wrote everything right.
I wish i could do this with new batteries, but i still waiting them to arrive.
And sorry for consecutive posts. I cant make a post with more than 5 media