Battery Free Ganz - The Flare Induction heater

[VapingYogi]

Yeah this is a bit of a dilemma for me. I'm really new to this style of vaping and only picked up my first Dyna in Feb. Tried a torch for a bit but found it hard to get good consistency. Deciding to try induction I did some reading and settled for the YLL2.0 over the Wand, because it was a bit cheaper and had more options to dial things in. It's been really great and I don't regret it for a second, but now I'm dead set on getting a Tempest as soon as they are available and I don't have an IH that's compatible xD.

The Flare sounds like the ticket as it appears to be a juiced up YLL2.0 which I'm already very familiar with. But with being in Aus, and with the Tempest about to drop, I'm not sure how long I'd have to wait (or how much I'd have to pay) to get my hands on one. Maybe I'll have to suck it up and just get good with a torch

The Flare will be release in the next few weeks, I was talking to the guy and he was just waiting for them to drop. I am really hopeful the Flare will be able to manage most devices given it can do the Fusion 2 which is causing issues with other Induction heaters I have been playing with. I really want the Flare to be good especially given the 18650 - i am worried that 3 is to little and it should have had like 21700 instead as things like the Solo III are being built off them so I wonder if the power is going to sufficient but we will see, at least i have a hand full of the18650 batteries

Tempest will take about 10 business days to ship and the shipping fee is reasonable.

 

[TheScamericann]

I pre ordered. I have an Anvil, a Tempest, a TA3 and numerous Dynavaps and I’m hoping this works well with all of them.

If you go on BFGS website they claim the forge works with dynavaps and anvils but need a metal jacket like the FMJ.

 

[kokolokokolokon]

If you go on BFGS website they claim the forge works with dynavaps and anvils but need a metal jacket like the FMJ.

They are using a duracore to configurate the flare. Maybe it is different with the thermocore due to his bigger middle mass.

Anyway a IH which works better than the wand with the tempest, allows you to heat the fusion, and allows you to heat an anvil (with or without fmj) (+armored cap) is a win-win.
I said it multiple times in the tempest thread, but the main problem the wand has is it can´t handle with a lot of big mass devices. It works with the tempest, but it just reach almost 100W the first heat ups. (and the usb port and the battery indicator are bad)

A IH which can handle 110W for more heat ups and can handle the fusion and the anvil for that price would be excellent for those who have some of this devices and don´t want to spend a ton of money on a IH.

Impatient to see how it works

 

[Sudolewdo]

The Flare will be release in the next few weeks, I was talking to the guy and he was just waiting for them to drop. I am really hopeful the Flare will be able to manage most devices given it can do the Fusion 2 which is causing issues with other Induction heaters I have been playing with. I really want the Flare to be good especially given the 18650 - i am worried that 3 is to little and it should have had like 21700 instead as things like the Solo III are being built off them so I wonder if the power is going to sufficient but we will see, at least i have a hand full of the18650 batteries

Tempest will take about 10 business days to ship and the shipping fee is reasonable.

Ah awesome, great to hear they'll be available soon! Yeah for sure will be interesting to see how the Flare goes with that battery setup. I did have to try a couple of different 18650 cells to find ones that held performance at lower charge levels with the YLL2.0 (probably no surprise but the Molicel P28 was the way to go)

 

[Jojofernz]

Does anyone know if the anvil Thermocore will work in this? I keep hearing you’ll have to throw an FMJ on the anvil to work, which is bit silly to me but not sure if that was only the duracore?
Just wanna see how many devices are compatible before grabbing one

 

[kokolokokolokon]

Does anyone know if the anvil Thermocore will work in this? I keep hearing you’ll have to throw an FMJ on the anvil to work, which is bit silly to me but not sure if that was only the duracore?
Just wanna see how many devices are compatible before grabbing one

They are using it with the duracore. But maybe the thermocore has the mass the flare needs to use a good amount of power

 

[VapingYogi]

Presale - Preorder - whatever its called...

The Flare

Experience unparalleled performance with The Flare, an advanced induction heater designed by Battery-free Ganz and meticulously crafted by YLLVape.

Wattage Range: 60 - 120W

Power Up: Requires 3 units of 1865 batteries MOLICEL (batteries not included)

Compatibility:
- Dani Fusion 2.0: Best results with 100W for 45 seconds
- Dani Fusion
- Dani V3/V3Ti: With IH cap
- Anvil: Max 95W with Copper Jacket
- Tempest
- Dynavap
- Stunner
- Thermal Accumulator

Charging: USB-C compatible. For optimal performance, use an external charger instead of direct charging.

Unleash the full potential of your devices with The Flare – the ultimate in induction heating technology!

Estimated delivery time: before July 12th.

The Flare (updated version)

The Flare Experience unparalleled performance with The Flare, an advanced induction heater designed by (sometimes) Battery-Free Ganz and meticulously crafted by YLLVape. Wattage Range: 30 - 120W Power Up: Requires 3 units of 18650 batteries MOLICEL (batteries not included) Compatibility: - Dani...

batteryfreeganz.com

 

[Petetbay]

Soothing Vapors is pre-ordering the Flare in Canada and there is a limited #, mine is ordered.

BFG Flare Induction Heater | Soothing Vapours

The BFG Flare induction heater creates a safe, efficient and powerful method of heating your butane powered vaporizer. Works with most models

www.soothingvapours.ca

 

[Casualt]

I wonder if the anvil with copper jacket is for the CopperCore/Duracores and not the Thermocore.

 

[kokolokokolokon]

I wonder if the anvil with copper jacket is for the CopperCore/Duracores and not the Thermocore.

I saw they worked with the duracore, so yes. I think the thermo won’t need a fmj

 

[BushRanger]

Is it a mistake that copper jacket (for Anvil) is added by default when looking at Flare? Price without is 139$, while with it 149$...
Don't think it can fit other vapes or it can be bended?

 

[Peacefrog78]

Is it a mistake that copper jacket (for Anvil) is added by default when looking at Flare? Price without is 139$, while with it 149$...
Don't think it can fit other vapes or it can be bended?

The listing has a box for the jacket before you add to cart. Select none and then add to cart. Wesley pipes includes batteries for $149 or 139 without, free shipping either way for US.

 

[BushRanger]

Verdampftnochmal is expecting to stock Flare in about 3 weeks, with free shipping for EU!

 

[AndyO]

I really want to buy one to test with the VerdaVap, I think that's going to thrive even more with an induction heater.

I've never had an induction heater that I preferred over a torch though, so it feels like an expensive experiment.

Are there any indications around availability if you don't pre-order? Is it going to be widely available afterwards?

 

[VapingYogi]

I really want to buy one to test with the VerdaVap, I think that's going to thrive even more with an induction heater.

I've never had an induction heater that I preferred over a torch though, so it feels like an expensive experiment.

Are there any indications around availability if you don't pre-order? Is it going to be widely available afterwards?

I talked to the BFG guys, they placed a "large" order, they expect to have more than will be purchased in the presale which was sent out in a newsletter to people who had requested to be notified.

I honestly use the Forge more than any torch I own now....

I hope the Flare performs.... I have ordered it so I will let you know if it makes it to Australia successfully

 

[Sudolewdo]

I talked to the BFG guys, they placed a "large" order, they expect to have more than will be purchased in the presale which was sent out in a newsletter to people who had requested to be notified.

I honestly use the Forge more than any torch I own now....

I hope the Flare performs.... I have ordered it so I will let you know if it makes it to Australia successfully

Yeah I ordered as well, fingers crossed they let them in the country

 

[HedRokkaZ]

If anyone has theirs arrive and can confirm how it handles the thermocore anvil I would be mega interested to hear it! I know the duracore needs an FMJ. If the thermocore does too, then it's a big dealbreaker and I'll wait for the next forge drop.

 

[Sudolewdo]

Happy to report mine got into the country okay and arrived just now. Can't report on how it functions as yet because I don't have anything that takes advantage of it until I get my hands on the Tempest

 

[Casualt]

anyone else test it yet with thermocore?

 

[kokolokokolokon]

ok guys i received mine today. I can´t do real tests right now but these are my results with a worn-out batteries (news will arrive tomorrow, x3 molicel p28):

-Fusion 2: 120W max
-Anvil coppercore with XL chamber: 100W max (no fmj...which is strange since the duracore needs a fmj to get 105W )
-Hyperdyn: 120W max
-Tempest: 70W max (i hope this is cause the batteries. I will try a fmj for the tempest...)

I didn´t try it with material because i´m at work. But i´ll do some tests. Same thing i didn´t adjust the height because i can´t be sure it is a good position, so i can´t tell a heating time right now

 

[oddjobold]

On holiday at the mo. My flare arrives Wednesday.

 

[FlyingJustice]

Ordered from Wesleypipes - hasn’t shipped out yet. Kinda bummed out but glad to hear the Anvil is working great with it.

 

[Casualt]

ok guys i received mine today. I can´t do real tests right now but these are my results with a worn-out batteries (news will arrive tomorrow, x3 molicel p28):

-Fusion 2: 120W max
-Anvil coppercore with XL chamber: 100W max (no fmj...which is strange since the duracore needs a fmj to get 105W )
-Hyperdyn: 120W max
-Tempest: 70W max (i hope this is cause the batteries. I will try a fmj for the tempest...)

I didn´t try it with material because i´m at work. But i´ll do some tests. Same thing i didn´t adjust the height because i can´t be sure it is a good position, so i can´t tell a heating time right now

Following. Hopefully more posted tests soon. Thanks. Interested in thermocore?

 

[Logo]

ok guys i received mine today. I can´t do real tests right now but these are my results with a worn-out batteries (news will arrive tomorrow, x3 molicel p28):

-Fusion 2: 120W max
-Anvil coppercore with XL chamber: 100W max (no fmj...which is strange since the duracore needs a fmj to get 105W )
-Hyperdyn: 120W max
-Tempest: 70W max (i hope this is cause the batteries. I will try a fmj for the tempest...)

I didn´t try it with material because i´m at work. But i´ll do some tests. Same thing i didn´t adjust the height because i can´t be sure it is a good position, so i can´t tell a heating time right now

70w on the tempest is slightly disappointing. Maybe using stainless steel balls will do it? I'd really appreciate it if you could do some more testing when you have the time

 

[oddjobold]

ok guys i received mine today. I can´t do real tests right now but these are my results with a worn-out batteries (news will arrive tomorrow, x3 molicel p28):

-Fusion 2: 120W max
-Anvil coppercore with XL chamber: 100W max (no fmj...which is strange since the duracore needs a fmj to get 105W )
-Hyperdyn: 120W max
-Tempest: 70W max (i hope this is cause the batteries. I will try a fmj for the tempest...)

I didn´t try it with material because i´m at work. But i´ll do some tests. Same thing i didn´t adjust the height because i can´t be sure it is a good position, so i can´t tell a heating time right now

Does the Tempest fit with an FMJ?