Several hours ago I just loaded a bowl with 0.10 - 0.15g and took 5 hits through water with the CL. I only waited enough in between to blow out the vapor and stop coughing. All the hits milked the piece except for the very last one. Stirred just a tiny bit for that last hit, then blew out the bowl.
Sorry so many seem to be having trouble problems with their device.
I’m not affiliated with CL or 420Eng at all. If I had to wait 5 minutes between hits it would have taken me 20 mins to finish my bowl and this device would be sitting here cold on the sidelines… instead I used mine for another 4-5 bowls before unplugging for the night
Interesting. To be fair: The bowl is pretty spent after my one big rip.
I assume you do more sipping, right?
But you are right, mine gets not as much used as it should due to this. Too many other toys ;-).
Would I sell the CL? No way. Like it too much anyway.
Will experiment a bit with sipping the next days though.
update: Tried it. But two whimpy puffs and then nothing. Put the material in the Tempest (similar sized ball vape) and it still goes.
when i finish the bowl in one draw i get a good extraction. I tried fresh material right after, nope. Nothing. Needed to heat soak for another 10 minutes, then flavorful and good again. Too medicated to write more now :-).
Here's what I discovered about the CL, as I also understand where
@simba was coming from with only managing 3 big hits. It makes a huge difference
- what type of bowl you're using
- what temp the CL is at
- what your draw speed is like
- the time you take between hits.
If you use a glass injector bowl (like the VGoodiez one) then I found what
@simba says is true. If I have the CL set to 5 (typical for glass) then I can take about 3 big pulls, back to back, the CL is spent with a 0.1-.15g bowl and the bowl is cashed. This is mostly because there is a 1cm or so distance to the flower and the glass absorbs some convective heat while contributing little conduction so these big hits drain the heat battery a lot. After the bowl is done, then you have to wait 5-10min for the CL to replenish. Not 5min after every hit. The problem is back-to-back bowls, not hits.
If you use the stainless steel CL bowl then you can get way more mileage out of your hits at varying temp levels, but you need to control your draw somewhat. The stainless bowl puts the flower much, much closer to the heater than your typical glass injector - a few mm away. Also, when mated with the CL tip then the bowl also gets heated via conduction somewhat for free since it's in direct contact with a large, heated surface.
To illustrate the difference in power needed, I can comfortably use the stainless bowl at 3 on the dial instead of 5 and clear a bowl in 3 big hits. But with the temp set to 3 only, I probably couldn't manage another bowl immediately after. However, if I use the CL at 5 with the stainless bowl, I can sip on a bowl for days with a small (7-10sec) pause between hits.
I can also clear the bowl easily and quickly with few hits, but I try to control my draw since at this temp and distance, things can get harsh. With the temp at 5, this will usually also allow me enough heat left in the CL to do another bowl immediately if I continue to clear it using big hits. But after that, it will need time to recover.
So in summary, the stainless default CL bowl (or something similar, DFreez wood bowl, JoDa glass bowl with the basket very close to the heater) will let you get more out of the heat battery of the CL. You can sip bowls for days and possibly chain back-to-back bowls that are ripped, not sipped. I haven't been able to rip back-to-back-to-back bowls with the CL but I'm happy with it as this is not my typical usecase.
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