Razhumikin
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I only use it with ground flower, havent tried the full nugs yet. I put a 14mm screen i have for a MV Touch stem in it and it works really well.
BAKx - bake all kinds
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Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Yep, you can check out my video on page 3, I don't know how to weigh an amount that small, but it sounds about right for the tiny crumbs I had loaded! You could load the tiniest possible amount, BAK will extract whatever actives are in there... Yeah just need a screen, I'm also using stainless steel mesh basket from mistvape since I have plenty, you can get similar from Alan @ toasty-top .com that fit perfectly and I don't really notice them imparting any unwanted flavors? You just get much more pure flavor with the whole little nugs of course
RxPlorer
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Ah, I see. I don't pay attention to vaporents so I missed that reference. I've worked with many veneer and plywood grades so I reached that question quite independently of the ents. All Good.
Edit: sorry for jumping to conclusions there, @Razhumikin! I didn't even realize I'd taken that leap until @Shit Snacks pointed it out. Humble pie for lunch today. Cheers
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FearAndLawyering
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clearly, it’s some kind of plywood. and to argue it’s not is disingenuous. this is the kind of bs i point to when saying that any criticisms are not allowed.
of course it’s a layered wood glued together why would you even argue that point.
and my initial comments about the airpath were because there are holes in the side walls of the units i thought was the air path at first. if that’s not the airpath and just a decorative hole then fine.
looking at what has been defined as the airpath
you can clearly see the airpath has been done stylistically with the layers. unless the wood was pressed together and held together with dreams then some kind of adhesive was used and cut away for that channel
i’m not going to argue material safety i’m just saying.
of course it’s a layered wood glued together why would you even argue that point.
and my initial comments about the airpath were because there are holes in the side walls of the units i thought was the air path at first. if that’s not the airpath and just a decorative hole then fine.
looking at what has been defined as the airpath
you can clearly see the airpath has been done stylistically with the layers. unless the wood was pressed together and held together with dreams then some kind of adhesive was used and cut away for that channel
i’m not going to argue material safety i’m just saying.
GoldenBud
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yeah i understand, but why it matters if it's the cold air that enters? it will not have an energy of any kind to evaporate some adhesive or so, the opposite of that..the air comes cold near the magnet, near some plates, and the adhesive is like under the top plate of each side.. so there like.. air>wood before adhesive...
FearAndLawyering
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depending on what kind of glue it shouldn’t be in the airpath regardless of temp. i don’t think the wood company pressed the panels together with medical epoxy. it’s just another material that wasn’t meant to be breathed through. at the end of the day it’s just a cost cutting measure. solid wood would be fine and pose no risk
GoldenBud
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in Figure 1 as you can see, imagine the wood on each side of the pipe. the epoxy is beyond the wood. so there's no epoxy there...the epoxy is not a part of the system
Useful information on pipe velocity
Useful information on pipe velocity including how pipe velocity us calculated, what head loss is, what the reynolds number is and what a good pipe velocity is
AssistedLiving
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I noticed the first time I looked a Lamart TP80 that some sort of laminated wood, with some type of adhesive, was being used, with a plastic covering on some. I dealt with a German house building company, Bode Timber Haus, back in the early '80's, and there was always some little terminology differences, they referred to their laminated beams as GluLams, and their idea of acrylic, was similar to the finishes I was familiar with, Formica, I believe it was called, back then.
Lamart has a reputation of making high quality devices that are very popular, I'm sure he sells as many as he can make, just like the other fine craftsman who's waiting lists I have been on, since first learning about this fine arena of vaporization discussion, cheers to all!
Lamart has a reputation of making high quality devices that are very popular, I'm sure he sells as many as he can make, just like the other fine craftsman who's waiting lists I have been on, since first learning about this fine arena of vaporization discussion, cheers to all!
AWistfulNihilist
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I'm glad we get to make the most negative assumption about things here!
The holes on the side might be confusing to most I think, as you noted those aren't air intake. Those are to ensure the heat from the tube does not build in the body. Air intake happens at the bottom where there are solid wood panels and channel cut out, which you provided!
The cut aways for the cold air intake on this device are a nice solid wood panel, the wood panel then set into a cut out from the decorative outer.
I don't want to not take the glue talk seriously, because it's definitely someone to talk about. The cold air intake cap does not heat up in any significant way. Even the wood outer is very good at shedding heat from the inner coils.
You would be much more in danger sucking vapor through a wood bowl which has volatile oils you will leech out over time (if y'all don't know the oil in walnut is a sensitizing agent for other woods), the glue in this scenario is set between 2 panels and fully cured. There is no danger to off gassing that I see there at all. That's me being super generous.
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
People are allowed to share their own opinions to counter those criticisms, that doesn't mean the criticisms are not allowed... As can plainly be seen here lol (also discussion of the cold air path and potential risks of potential adhesive types and types of wood in areas that don't see the high heat or vapor is perhaps a broader discussion as it seems to relate to several other vape designs, just saying)
It seems like you are implying that the current design can pose a risk.
We have a rule:
To everyone else: Let's please move on from this silly "plywood" discussion. If you don't like the design, feel free to not purchase one.
Thank you.
GoldenBud
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it had been discussed in the discord server that you can't take hits with 225C slow draw. you will combust. with the TP80 i take 225C draws slowly all day and it's fine... the BAK is much restricted than TP80 hence using less power/temp
will receive it soon and will let you know, but I aim to use it around 200C fast draw...
and 170C for taste, slow draw
From Improvaper videos, it seems like 220C fast or very fast draw will yield dark ABV. a lot different other than TP80
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Yes, but it will take some practice, there are a lot of variables, I've done it successfully, but two hitters are better actually like in my videos here... Yeah the draw is restricted, I don't know if you overpower the heater, depends on the temp and power settings, along with the heat soak, what you are drawing through and how you load etc.
Stueylakes
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New dedicated power for the mini beast. Lost Vape Thelema DNA100c. Lush.
almost there
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Gorgeous! Where did you pick it up?
Stueylakes
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Evolution Vaping in UK, there is a couple left. Someone who made the BAK may of bought almost all of them!....Lost Vape Thelema DNA100C
666Honeybadger
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I wonder: if someone with absolutely zero experience and less then zero knowledge about "mods" is interested in this device how much of a learning curve is to be expected?
Does a mod involve a lot of fiddling to install? Or is it plug and play?
Is there a lot of research/comparing needed to select the right one for any specific device?
Is the usage/interface similar in all mods or are there big differences between different brands?
I never even considered or looked into mods and then this turns up...
I really like a lot about it (formfactor, full glass bowl, how it handles full nugs, performance, versatility, convection-conduction hybrid, ...) but the fact that it needs a mod scares me a bit.
I really don't want to end up buying several different mods in the search for the "one" and in all honesty don't feel like doing the required Mod-research ('what are they, how to use them and how to select the right one').
So basically i'm asking if there is a full and fool proof recipe?
Like:
-Buy the Bakx
-get mod X
-screw together
-read the MOD-manual
-aaaaand.... you're golden!!! Vape away!
Or is some fiddling, installing, calibrating and the occasional cursing in despair inevitable before one gets to be a happy vaper?
Does a mod involve a lot of fiddling to install? Or is it plug and play?
Is there a lot of research/comparing needed to select the right one for any specific device?
Is the usage/interface similar in all mods or are there big differences between different brands?
I never even considered or looked into mods and then this turns up...
I really like a lot about it (formfactor, full glass bowl, how it handles full nugs, performance, versatility, convection-conduction hybrid, ...) but the fact that it needs a mod scares me a bit.
I really don't want to end up buying several different mods in the search for the "one" and in all honesty don't feel like doing the required Mod-research ('what are they, how to use them and how to select the right one').
So basically i'm asking if there is a full and fool proof recipe?
Like:
-Buy the Bakx
-get mod X
-screw together
-read the MOD-manual
-aaaaand.... you're golden!!! Vape away!
Or is some fiddling, installing, calibrating and the occasional cursing in despair inevitable before one gets to be a happy vaper?
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
I'll second this ask for a turn-key solution... at least to get started with the beast. Totally ignorant about 510 based heaters but willing to learn.
I bet there is not too much time before he releases the AIO version. I liked the idea of the unregulated early prototype mentioned before.
That being said, learning to use a mod is fun and opens up a bunch more devices.
Stueylakes
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No sincerely its really straight forward with the DNA chip and escribe. Most BAK's are reading a resistance of .2 -.21 so ive set mine to .22 which replicates steady temps im used to on other devices.
The part that is essential is updating the firmware on the device and initiating auto fire through the session tick box.
Once that process is complete its then down to the normal variables of any vape so temp, material, consistency, pace and length of draw. Also the pre heat of 30-40 secs influences a sliding scale of convection leading to conduction through the session. This again can be further manipulated by removing the bowl from the BAK to clear it.
Tinkering a little but not a challenging tinker, just an enlightening one!
666Honeybadger
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Mmmmkay...
Somehow that is another part why this scares the hell out of me tbh. I'm just not ready (mentally and financially) for yet another rabbit-hole...
Al them chaseable rabbits... it's a crime!
i'm starting to feel like a hungry fox since i picked up my first vape
edit: when i switched to vaping one argument i used a lot was that i'd save money not having to buy tobacco anymore...
Yeah right... Little did i know i'd be spending those savings (and then some) just so to buy the next vape.
Joints cost more weed but never cared about accesories, paraphernalia or bongs and such when i smoked. There was little to do or to add/change to perfect the experience.
Good weed and good rolling skills: that was more or less it...
Vaping is a completely different game.
Too many options to alter the experience completely!
So many vapes and so little time/money...
No stress but... better choose right...
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Stueylakes
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I know a certain someone bought quite a few of the MOD I have in the pic above so would assume a kit of sorts will be on the agenda in the drop!
coolbreeze
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This is partly what's held me off, but I'm too intrigued this time.