Toltec
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I am in the process of speaking with a DaVinci representative. I'll post in this thread once I get a definitive response.
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Ascent Vaporizer by DaVinci
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I am in the process of speaking with a DaVinci representative. I'll post in this thread once I get a definitive response.
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HD Springer
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Mine has this same little quirk to the temps also.I didnt really know what was going on with it though
Same here. I don't vap above 380 so NP
When i was looking for a vape to buy i was verry intrigued by the idea of a whip style vape because of the fact that you can see the vapor, but i didnt wanted to give up the portabillity of my first vape to a novelty like a whip. I found the ascent to be the most goodlooking portable vape and i am glad i choose it, but the feeling of the small glass stem to draw from whille having a telephone style apparatus richt in front of your face doesnt feel that classy. So i dreamt again of a whip to draw from. I visited the local hardware store and brought home 2 sets of tubes. one verry thin and flexible, and another tube just large enough so the small tube would fit in it snug and airtight. Another detail is that the tube with the small diameter allso fits snugg inside the glass drawing stems. I do not have any tape measure at home at the moment so i can only discribe it. and show it on some pics:
[/url][/IMG] this is my longer, thinner tube; it gives good vapor to air becous the glas part is fully inside the vape but it will still cool the vape down so you can take big hits
that is my shorter model; it gives a harsher vape because of the short stem but man the clouds this thing gives
I hope i havent messed up the link of the pics. anyhow this is a way i have drasticly increased my vapor production and ease of intaking said vapor(less coughing at higher temps). Allso i live in a country where smoking weed is a legal gray zone. they can arrest you for it. having this longer tube in your sleeve and putting the ascent in your pants pocket is a great way to stay super stealthy
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Having plastic in the vaporpath will certainly give some people in this thread nightmares but i dont think there is a big health risk sinds the vape isnt that hot when it reaches to the plastic tube. It was definitly an upgrade for me, hopefully others can learn from and hopefully improve the concept. As davinci himself would have said it, arrivederci!
Nice !!!
I got rid of the upper glass straw. Connected to the lower glass with Medical grade hose. No more air leak, hits way better.
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virtualpurple
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What size tubing did you purchase? Have you got a link?
Love my Ascent, But when I turn the vape upside down at higher temps I see so much vapor escaping that I don't feel like I can relax and take hits at my leisure. I'm wondering if just having the unit on its side will encourage a little less vapor escape.
I'm wondering if my stock Herbie tubing will do the trick...
Hey guys! The glitch is definitely a display glitch. When I first started working in our factory in China, that was one of the first things I asked our engineer about. I noticed the glitch when I set my vape to 400 and it would only display 398. I have had some success at other temperatures doing the reset or the settings and plus button sequence when my vape was acting like you mentioned and wouldn't go up 20 degrees, but I was never able to get the 398's-400's. 401 is ok, 397 is ok, but the display will get stuck at 398 and also if you listen, the PCB goes crazy at that temperature and you can hear the software really going to work. If it's plugged in and set to 400, the sound was even more noticeable at least on the unit I was playing around with while I was testing this. There is nothing wrong with it, I just thought it to be very interesting that the PCB was working particularly hard to stay at 400 degrees. I wonder if the battery drains more at that temp than others (even higher ones) if you can noticeably hear a difference?? TO THE LAB!!!I am in the process of speaking with a DaVinci representative. I'll post in this thread once I get a definitive response.
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The good news is our tests proved successful and the bowl will indeed go to temp, the display just becomes frozen so here are some pointers:
- If your display is "frozen" always try a factory reset. The best way to know if you have successfully done the reset is by checking the set temperature, or the vapor cycle. It should go back to the default of 375.
- If the reset didn't work you can try to turn the bowl off using the settings and "-" button sequence then back on (settings button followed by the "+" button) I have also had success only using the heater on sequence (settings button followed by the "+" button)
- Try to set the temperature a few degrees above where you had it set. The glitch seems to happen only when trying to go from whatever temperature you're at initially to 400. You can go up one or two degrees at a time until the display switches then go back down to your desired temperature.
- Don't worry about the glitch, because the temperature of the bowl does rise even if the display doesn't change. I have had several experiences where I stopped paying attention to it and after a few minutes the display changed.
OF
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Since it's a display only deal, you can also clear it buy turning it off and back on. I will recall the last (correct?) setting and soldier on normally. The timer gets reset of course, but more time in a session has never been a negative with me as I shut off when I decide I've had enough, not when some machine thinks it's about time.
OF
OF
OF
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Yes when the display comes up again, the glitch is not there. It accurately shows what's going on again. You can, of course, get it to come back again if you repeat the changes that caused it.
Or that's what I think I found......have you tried it? What do you think?
OF
OF
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I agree, and IMO the spacers make a good vape even better. More options in use. You really should have one........
Yer welcome, of course, glad to help when I can.
OF
HD Springer
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OF
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I realize it's borderline 'cruel and unusual' to discuss the spacers when they are not yet available to most owners and all, but that's not my intent. I'm confident they will soon be common fare (included with new units instead of the jars?). Once any issues that might come along have been addressed of course.
As is I'm getting what I think are very good results with about .10 grams. Perhaps not quite as good as with tediously packed glass flowers, but sure a bunch easier.
I first confirmed neither of my spacers had a size issue on the bottom of the bowl. Then I got a toothpick to use as a tool/handle. I have two kinds of tooth picks, Basswood and Bamboo. I picked Bamboo as the superior material (a BBQ skewer would work with some work). I picked on that had a 'bad' tip, sort of egg shaped, that is it has 'sides'. I then tried it in each of the four end holes. It two it turned freely (the holes being round), in two 'it had bumps' (the hole too was out of round). When 'part way around' the toothpick is tight enough (hard to turn) that it grips the spacer and will easily lift it clear. Even very hot. I cut the end off my second one as it was real skinny and stuck down too far otherwise. It's easy to see where it's gripping the glass.
The other spacer goes in first, cup side down. We have a flat bottom bowl, made of glass on the bottom, glazed ceramic (glass covered...) on the sides. I fill the chamber to the top with my current grind, about .10 grains. To just under the rubber lip on top. Then I press the top spacer, flat side down this time (against the bud in both cases). The combination of herb/grind I'm using and that fill level (it's fluffy) leaves the top of the upper spacer even with the top of the door when I take the (modest) pressure off. It's not packed very much at all, but the bulk of the spaces have been 'taken out'. You can shake it out, no need to dig it. At least until the heat happens.
A shorter, but IMO very satisfactory session ends with a fast end of vapor production.
At the end of the session if I can, while it's still hot and easy to deal with, I swing open the door and using my tool I stick it in the (outside) hole in the spacer, twist a bit, and lift the spacer out and set it on something safe (paper towel works). A quick stir with another toothpick in the ABV and it dumps out clean. I run the tip of the toothpick around the edge between the lower spacer (which stays in place) and the wall to prevent buildup there and blow it clean enough to load and go. If stuff starts to stick to the walls, I break off the end of the toothpick and use the wood fibers to scrub the wall. That seems to keep that aspect in check.
I then fill by bulk, it's pretty uniform but coarser than many I think. This needs to be readjusted with big changes in strain or even cure changes of course, but it's easy to get a feel for. Try filling with only enough to reach the top of the ceramic of the bowl, put the spacer on top, close the door and light the fires. And adjust fire accordingly? Anyway, my plan is to have 'springback' stay flush or below. Let the door swing free. By the time I dump the bowl and give it a quick clean and fill it up, the spacer is cool enough to touch although I typically pick it up by the toothpick and place it on top and then push down with a fingertip after I 'unthread' the tool. Hey, it can be a toy. too......
So, that's my story, at least so far. A comfortable rut to be in. Based on weight of bud added to the stash (rather than session count) I figure I'm at about two dozen bowls (coming up on 3 grams) since this test started, I just checked. When hot, the lower spacer came out with a little wiggle of the toothpick. Leaving a 'bath tub ring' that couldn't stand up to Mister Toothpick, once the gloves came off (broken wood fibers on end pushing down the wall from above chip it off easily).
Thanks for hanging in through the rambling text above. Those that have the spacers are requested to 'give it a go' and see what you think. For the rest, I guess you'll have to settle with yet more material to base daydreams on? Or class envy. 'Sorry about that Chief', as 86 would say.
Regards to all. I hope you're able to enjoy yours as much as I am mine.
OF
As is I'm getting what I think are very good results with about .10 grams. Perhaps not quite as good as with tediously packed glass flowers, but sure a bunch easier.
I first confirmed neither of my spacers had a size issue on the bottom of the bowl. Then I got a toothpick to use as a tool/handle. I have two kinds of tooth picks, Basswood and Bamboo. I picked Bamboo as the superior material (a BBQ skewer would work with some work). I picked on that had a 'bad' tip, sort of egg shaped, that is it has 'sides'. I then tried it in each of the four end holes. It two it turned freely (the holes being round), in two 'it had bumps' (the hole too was out of round). When 'part way around' the toothpick is tight enough (hard to turn) that it grips the spacer and will easily lift it clear. Even very hot. I cut the end off my second one as it was real skinny and stuck down too far otherwise. It's easy to see where it's gripping the glass.
The other spacer goes in first, cup side down. We have a flat bottom bowl, made of glass on the bottom, glazed ceramic (glass covered...) on the sides. I fill the chamber to the top with my current grind, about .10 grains. To just under the rubber lip on top. Then I press the top spacer, flat side down this time (against the bud in both cases). The combination of herb/grind I'm using and that fill level (it's fluffy) leaves the top of the upper spacer even with the top of the door when I take the (modest) pressure off. It's not packed very much at all, but the bulk of the spaces have been 'taken out'. You can shake it out, no need to dig it. At least until the heat happens.
A shorter, but IMO very satisfactory session ends with a fast end of vapor production.
At the end of the session if I can, while it's still hot and easy to deal with, I swing open the door and using my tool I stick it in the (outside) hole in the spacer, twist a bit, and lift the spacer out and set it on something safe (paper towel works). A quick stir with another toothpick in the ABV and it dumps out clean. I run the tip of the toothpick around the edge between the lower spacer (which stays in place) and the wall to prevent buildup there and blow it clean enough to load and go. If stuff starts to stick to the walls, I break off the end of the toothpick and use the wood fibers to scrub the wall. That seems to keep that aspect in check.
I then fill by bulk, it's pretty uniform but coarser than many I think. This needs to be readjusted with big changes in strain or even cure changes of course, but it's easy to get a feel for. Try filling with only enough to reach the top of the ceramic of the bowl, put the spacer on top, close the door and light the fires. And adjust fire accordingly? Anyway, my plan is to have 'springback' stay flush or below. Let the door swing free. By the time I dump the bowl and give it a quick clean and fill it up, the spacer is cool enough to touch although I typically pick it up by the toothpick and place it on top and then push down with a fingertip after I 'unthread' the tool. Hey, it can be a toy. too......
So, that's my story, at least so far. A comfortable rut to be in. Based on weight of bud added to the stash (rather than session count) I figure I'm at about two dozen bowls (coming up on 3 grams) since this test started, I just checked. When hot, the lower spacer came out with a little wiggle of the toothpick. Leaving a 'bath tub ring' that couldn't stand up to Mister Toothpick, once the gloves came off (broken wood fibers on end pushing down the wall from above chip it off easily).
Thanks for hanging in through the rambling text above. Those that have the spacers are requested to 'give it a go' and see what you think. For the rest, I guess you'll have to settle with yet more material to base daydreams on? Or class envy. 'Sorry about that Chief', as 86 would say.
Regards to all. I hope you're able to enjoy yours as much as I am mine.
OF
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MrNaturalAZ
Tree hugging dirt worshipper
Not having gotten any of the spacers myself to test, I can only postulate, but...
Is it possible that the raised bit on one of the ends of the bottom of the Ascent's bowl might be contributing to the sticking problem, by encouraging a spacer dropped into an empty bowl to sit tilted (thereby increasing its effective width)?
A possible solution might be to raise the edges to avoid this - perhaps this crude ASCII drawing will show what I mean (side view of edge of spacer, preferable both open and flat sides):
--____--
Is it possible that the raised bit on one of the ends of the bottom of the Ascent's bowl might be contributing to the sticking problem, by encouraging a spacer dropped into an empty bowl to sit tilted (thereby increasing its effective width)?
A possible solution might be to raise the edges to avoid this - perhaps this crude ASCII drawing will show what I mean (side view of edge of spacer, preferable both open and flat sides):
--____--
OF
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I don't think so. First off no real sticking issue. I put a toothpick in the outside end hole and pushed it gently both ways. IIRC pushing in was what cracked the thing loose. IMO it's the ring, not the fit, that glues it in place. It may well be different for others, which is why it'd be cool of others tested it.
If there is an issue, the notched ends idea seems a good one to me, I just didn't find any problem yet? You'd need to watch for edges since an inverted one on top could snag the seal on the main body opening and closing?
Good thought, thanks. Hope you can join the experiment soon.
OF
JamesTiberiousKirk
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I have two ascents, one with the display glitch, one without. I can comfirm OFs recommendation. I just turn the unit off. Back on. And the glitch goes away. Doesnt seem to effect the desired results of vaporizing.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
It's just really important that you remove the spacer when the unit is still warm. I haven't had a sticking problem so far. Keep your oven clean so a sticky residue doesn't build up
I'm a little curious if these spacers turn out to be something the company wants to add to their line of products, when would they be available to the customers?
I like using the spacers that I have. I'm am really happy so far, as long as I don't lose one. I dropped one and it didn't break, it was on a wooden floor too.
I'm a little curious if these spacers turn out to be something the company wants to add to their line of products, when would they be available to the customers?
I like using the spacers that I have. I'm am really happy so far, as long as I don't lose one. I dropped one and it didn't break, it was on a wooden floor too.
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Really?? You can set one of your vapes to 375, let it preheat, then turn it to 400 and it will read 400F? Amazing! What's the model number? 1AA1 or 2AA1?
JamesTiberiousKirk
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They are both 2AA1. The one without the glitch is a 'burlwood', the one with the glitch is a Stealth.
Nope, I have had the Burlwood the longest (7 mos) and haven't noticed any display problems. I noticed the glitch with the Stealth the first session.
Nope, I have had the Burlwood the longest (7 mos) and haven't noticed any display problems. I noticed the glitch with the Stealth the first session.
My first Ascent didn't do it at first but it started to do it after a few months and I've also used ones that only did it sometimes.
I'll get with our software engineer this afternoon and get some solid information on what's going on there for you guys.
UPDATE: It's just a minor software glitch. The engineers were saying the temperature modulation software we use behaves differently in different environments and that even one or two degrees can change the way it works. 398-402 has a unique environment but they said it has nothing to do with the software glitch and it's only a coincidence. They also said 346 has a unique environment. Anyone every notice anything strange around that temperature?
I'll keep digging on this and but at least we know the bowl temperature is what you set it to even if there is a display bug.
Back to the lab!!
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HerbieVonVapster
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Fun to read about the new spacer might just be a replacement for the small roundish glass object I am using. I tend to use this vaporizer when I want to chill watch a movie. Then I use mostly the program settings. Start at 340 for 6 mins, 365 for 7 mins, then 390 for 7 mins. If still in pain I have temperature set at 405 and turn off restart to get the last higher temperature pain relief.
Anyways mine also has the temperature reading glitch and is a 2AA1 model.
Anyways mine also has the temperature reading glitch and is a 2AA1 model.
I'll post up a pic and measure it.
It's actually the white hose from inside of a sinus rinse bottle. lol.. I switch out bottles every 3 months.
The ID fits over the inner stem perfect and the OD fits inside the upper rubber boot. It's not very thick.
I want to take a minute and thank Devinci for sending me out a set of spacers to test out.
Since i started this test a bit late i have had the chance to read how others are using there bowl spacers. I have pretty much only tried the different methods others have mentioned.
The spacers work great at being spacers, just like promised
I am having the best luck using 2 jacks and 1 spacer.
Small amount of herb on bottom of bowl, place 2 jacks in, add another small amount of bud to cover the jacks. I install the spacer with the holes down. This works best for me so far.
Has anyone had any luck without packing your material ?? I have always had to pack it pretty tightly to get a consistant session. I have tried loose loads in various configurations without good results. The reason i am trying this is to reduce draw resistance.
I have also had a few PM's asking about my take on the Crafty vs the Accent...
Two completely different vaps. The Accent is a sipper. Great for kicking back in front of the tv and , well sipping on your vap
Now, if you don't have time to sip and get the bowl all situated the Crafty is the man. Throw in ground herb
or bud chunks or even a small bud and let er rip. Packed, loose, it doesn't care. BUT, It's not a sipper, I'm good to go in 5 minutes. About 8/10 bong size hits and she is spent. It can be sipped, it's just harder to do without much if any draw resistance.
Both vaps are great and fill different needs.
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Aelio
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I like the ascent very much but I've already had two of them and they both stopped powering on and/or charging. The second lasted longer than the first but both failed in the same way.
Anybody know how to remove residue from the silicone/rubber? Isopropyl alcohol doesn't seem to do the trick.
Anybody know how to remove residue from the silicone/rubber? Isopropyl alcohol doesn't seem to do the trick.
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A lot of people here have had success using Mr. Clean Magic Erasers, but that was more for oven stains. I'm sure it will work similarly with the silicone seal though. The best way to keep your unit clean is to clean it frequently though. A combination of the pick tool included, and isopropyl alcohol with a cotton swab has never failed me when cleaning.
Sorry to hear about all your vaporizer troubles. If you ever need anything, feel free to send us a private message here. I'm more than happy to help you out with warranty troubles.