Ascent Vaporizer by DaVinci

stickstones

stickstones

Vapor concierge
OF said:
I think another big advantage of the glass pieces is their ability to store heat. My tests showed that the load his hottest just before you hit, the longer and harder you hit the cooler the center gets. By putting lots of hot glass with lots of surface area spread throughout the load I think this is where a lot of the heat energy making vapor in the hit comes from. Cotton would not give that boost, although it too would reduce the weight of herb needed for a bowl full.

For whatever reason, I think it's a simple thing to try and seems to be successful in some things. Like Chicken Soup, "can't hurt, might help"?

OF
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I think the glass flowers thing is brilliant, but I'll know when I try it out. What I liked about the cotton was that it reduced conduction by insulating the nugget from the wall. But nigel is right...goodies are lost and I don't think the taste is as good as it will be with the glass flowers.
 
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Razor

Razor

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Maybe its just me, but I really saw no need for the glass flowers (at least for larger loads) I get huge bellows and the airflow never feels restricted even with the puck. I use my solo for small sessions cause of the bowl size right now, but if I plan on gaping for more than 20 minutes, I use the ascent. One full bowl last at least that long. When I dumped it out (I also have to sometimes use the tool to get the puck), it was uniformly cooked accept for the very bottom cm of the puck which was a bit darker than the rest, but not by much. I also haven't had the cool down issue between hits. I can actually take a huge hit and by the time its out, its ready to put out more. Are you guys with the new u its experiencing any of this?


To the post above me... they are on sale thru the website now

Correction.. they WERE on sale lol. They are still doing the open sale thing sometimes. Last night, I went and put in a order just to see and it took it. Now its sayin out of stock again.
 
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njluvdr

njluvdr

Keep calm and vape on
escierdanyc said:
Doesn't mean your unit won't function as it should with off-gassing. I personally would never vape from any unit that off-gasses, but that doesn't mean someone else won't be happy just ignoring it.
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To me functioning properly means no off gassing. May as well combust then.
 
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Globbs

Globbs

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Bravo @OF. The glass flower screens worked amazing. I was able to use .15 of nug and the rest glass flowers. It hit hard at 400 and produced dense vapor.

I like the idea of a spacer made slightly smaller than a oil jar with tabs on the bottom lifting it off the bottom. Thus putting most of the herb against the chamber walls. More contact directly on the heated walls = more vapor?
 
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JCat

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I'm anxiously awaiting the spacer ... but in the meantime ... it's worked great without. I've been packing full (about .3-.35g) and it works great. One does not have to compact the puck down ... medium density pack works great.
 
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EveryDayAmnesiac

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Okay, after one whole full day of using the Ascent... I am very pleased, and see lots of potential.

I don't know if the Ascent was just designed for me or what, but I'm putting in smaller loads (same as I'd put in original DV), not packing it down, no glass flowers, no spacer, and am getting nice "uppey" (though understandably wispy) vapor at the lower temps, and clouds that I deem totally acceptable at the higher temps.

I feel as though I'm hitting it in a style that's right in-between how you might use the MFLB and the original DV.

Warm-up time is crazy fast, even when there's only one bar. And the temp it says it's at, feels like the temp I expect when I hit it.

I have a major issue with the original DV with material getting "sucked up" into the screen and clogging it. I feared this issue would be the same in the Ascent for me, but it's not. Looking at my inner glass screen, it's only a few little bits in/around it, and not enough to even come close to clogging it. And I've been using it all day. On the same charge! And I've still got more to go. I don't do long sessions though.

It is discouraging to see so much conduction going on and coming out the mouthpiece, but plenty of vapor remains in there. Even after the temp. has supposedly dropped, it seems to keep making a little vapor in there. Almost seems like it puts out one last "oomph" of heat when you turn it off? So I keep toking as the temp drops because there's more in there.

I have not found the unit to be uncomfortably warm whatsoever except if you actually touch the grill. Even then, it didn't hurt.

Am wondering how I'm going to clean under the grill properly in the future. Little bits of bud do drop down there and since that's where the air comes in I sure wish I could take that grill off and clean down there...

Also not sure that I like the fact it starts warming up after holding down the main power button, instead of having to push two buttons. Might be convenient, and I don't think the Ascent will ever turn on by accident, but.... just not sure.

I would also avoid ever tapping the Ascent. You can hear the glass kind of hitting each other.

Just random thoughts. Not a review.

EDIT: At higher temps (420 and up), vapor definitely does leak out from the bottom, especially with the PN WT attached... but there was still PLENTY of vapor for me to inhale after watching this happen.
 
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Lazarus

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EveryDayAmnesiac said:
Okay, after one whole full day of using the Ascent... I am very pleased, and see lots of potential.

I don't know if the Ascent was just designed for me or what, but I'm putting in smaller loads (same as I'd put in original DV), not packing it down, no glass flowers, no spacer, and am getting nice "uppey" (though understandably wispy) vapor at the lower temps, and clouds that I deem totally acceptable at the higher temps.

I feel as though I'm hitting it in a style that's right in-between how you might use the MFLB and the original DV.

Warm-up time is crazy fast, even when there's only one bar. And the temp it says it's at, feels like the temp I expect when I hit it.

I have a major issue with the original DV with material getting "sucked up" into the screen and clogging it. I feared this issue would be the same in the Ascent for me, but it's not. Looking at my inner glass screen, it's only a few little bits in/around it, and not enough to even come close to clogging it. And I've been using it all day. On the same charge! And I've still got more to go. I don't do long sessions though.

It is discouraging to see so much conduction going on and coming out the mouthpiece, but plenty of vapor remains in there. Even after the temp. has supposedly dropped, it seems to keep making a little vapor in there. Almost seems like it puts out one last "oomph" of heat when you turn it off? So I keep toking as the temp drops because there's more in there.

I have not found the unit to be uncomfortably warm whatsoever except if you actually touch the grill. Even then, it didn't hurt.

Am wondering how I'm going to clean under the grill properly in the future. Little bits of bud do drop down there and since that's where the air comes in I sure wish I could take that grill off and clean down there...

Also not sure that I like the fact it starts warming up after holding down the main power button, instead of having to push two buttons. Might be convenient, and I don't think the Ascent will ever turn on by accident, but.... just not sure.

I would also avoid ever tapping the Ascent. You can hear the glass kind of hitting each other.

Just random thoughts. Not a review.
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Thank you for your thoughts. My stealth comes in tomorrow, and you highlighted and eased some concerns of mine.

About cleaning under the grill, is there a way that blowing in to the bowl (when cooled obviously) or up the grill to help shake some stuff loose? Or using something like Dust off with the straw?
 
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Razor

Razor

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Personally, I no longer see a reason for a spacer. If you make it a puck, nothing comes through the glass screen, the vapor production is amazing without flowers I barely hit 390 and I'm blowing clouds. I believe they redesigned the bowl. When I was looking through the grill on the new one, there looks to be more ceramic/glass. Maybe the heat dissipation was solved by using more ceramic to hold heat better maybe?

The flower thing seems like a good idea.. I'm just too lazy to dump, sift glass, refill with glass. I'm happy this unit doesn't need it as it shouldn't. So far, everything is working exactly as davinci described it would so far. This is only day one of course, so keeping fingers crossed. One final note.. the glass stem and screen on my unit are difficult to pull out.. not extremely, but a ton more so than my first unit. Feels like they made it tighter inside. All in all, this and my solo has replaced my extreme q for the time being.

Has anyone with a new model unit tried using it without the glass flowers besides me? Let me know if you have the same experience I'm havin. Also do you leave it loose or make a puck? How does each way work for you?
 
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EveryDayAmnesiac

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Lazarus said:
About cleaning under the grill, is there a way that blowing in to the bowl (when cooled obviously) or up the grill to help shake some stuff loose? Or using something like Dust off with the straw?
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Blowing in? I dunno. I might be worried about bits going where they shouldn't? Especially around that still-exposed circuit board. I want to be able to wipe iso down there nice and easily. I guess a regular old pipe cleaner will work okay if you just jam it through, but... damn, I sure would like to be able to open that grill! They must have good reason for that not to be an option...
 
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Lazarus

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EveryDayAmnesiac said:
Blowing in? I dunno. I might be worried about bits going where they shouldn't? Especially around that still-exposed circuit board. I want to be able to wipe iso down there nice and easily. I guess a regular old pipe cleaner will work okay if you just jam it through, but... damn, I sure would like to be able to open that grill! They must have good reason for that not to be an option...
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I would think the reason you cant open it is because of the exposed board, some one opens it up and goes poking around and messes something up. then they call up dv and bitch about there own stupidity. I agree with you It opened too, but i will just have to make due.
 
Davinci_vaporizer

Davinci_vaporizer

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Hey there,

Seeing some questions pop up so I figured I'd chime in.

There is absolutely no rhyme or reason that the grill couldn't be removed...except the way it was built. Don't try to pull it out because you won't get it back in...I've tried. But there is nothing up there that can be harmed. If possible, you can try to pull everything residual out of the whole in the grill opposite side of the charger port...bent paper clips work.

The spacer thing is all over the place. I'm still pushing for my sombrero...but now there is this idea to simply make an extra inner glass 30.cm long so you can push it into the bowl (the oval one...also the oval would be smaller). However, I am not a fan of that option since it leaves some glass exposed around the mouthpiece so you can pull that puppy back out before opening the hinge. Plus..I don't know about you...but I would totally forget that it was pushed down in there ...and snap.
 
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Are there any good alternatives to those glass flowers? Or ones that won't cost $70 to ship to australia :p
 
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Razor

Razor

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A broken piece of glass maybe... if you break a piece, can find a way to sand it down, wash the hell put of it in alcohol.... should work..theoretically
 
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nigel

nigel

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Davinci_vaporizer said:
make an extra inner glass 30.cm long so you can push it into the bowl (the oval one...also the oval would be smaller). However, I am not a fan of that option since it leaves some glass exposed around the mouthpiece so you can pull that puppy back out before opening the hinge. Plus..I don't know about you...but I would totally forget that it was pushed down in there ...and snap.
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I managed to push my screen-stem down accidentally. Was giant pain to get it back out, and the bottom was locked in place so I couldn't swivel it open.

Another user intentionally pushed his screen down, and then broke it trying to open it.

I realize pushing it down would make a better glass-to-glass contact, but ill-advised unless you can simultaneously force another lock on the swivel that can't be disengaged until the glass is retracted.
 
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Dreamerr

Dreamerr

Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
Nigel, because of that user having the issue before you sent me yours to test I already hatched a plan just in case. As a precaution when before I opened it I took out the top stem then you can just pull the glass screen up from the top easily. If anyone is suspicious that it is caught in the path I suggest safe then sorry.
 
Shrike

Shrike

Flower Potted, Maxed, & Rio'd.
Well...finally getting to try out my replaced Burl Ascent tonight. Was surprised that I got a complete replacement box with everything that was in the first box. After just being asked to send back the charger and the unit with all the glass taken out, I figured my replacement would come back the same way...so...a nice surprise. :)

So...cosmetically, it looks as nice as the one I sent back. Seems like the seals are tighter and this one has two nice clicks when you twist open to expose the bowl...nice.

Ok...I have already done a burn in for the last two days and kept it at 430 for 20 minutes 3 times. Never got a wisp of fumes or smoke/vapor from inside the unit. Also, though my first Ascent didn't have the off-gassing issue that many experienced, my first one did have a faint smell that really showed up at the end of a session.

The replacement doesn't give off any smell at all but that new vapor smell that pretty much all vaporizers have. Now...on to the testing.

I bought the glass flowers a few weeks ago, but have decided to try them out another night. For tonight, I wanted to keep the experience as close as I could to how I used the original Ascent. I loaded the bowl up almost to the top and tamped it down light to medium. Fired it up and took the temp up to 375. Got there faster than I remember and instead of waiting to take a hit, I pretty much did it immediately and with a stronger draw than I was using with the first unit. I exhaled and was surprised to see a pretty decent vapor trail. Much more than I expected at that temp and draw speed...very nice!:tup:

Took about 3 more draws at that temp and then boosted it to 395. Immediately saw a difference in the thickness of the cloud of vape that I exhaled! Very...very nice!

So...that is where I am at the moment. Shut it off and let it cool down for awhile. Will turn it back on momentarily, set it for 405 and continue up the scale until the load it done. I'm pretty set already (you don't want to know the 7 strains I put in the bowl:o), but I look forward to finishing this up tonight.

All I can say for now is ...well done Davinci. Even though I got lucky with the first Ascent and really enjoyed it...this is almost like night and day. Faster warm up, better seal and more massive clouds at lower temps...

Hope everyone that gets a replacement or new Ascent has similar experiences...:rockon::nod::2c::peace:

Oh yeah...the battery is lasting muuuch longer now than the original. Really the main reason I sent mine back. I did have the mar on the screen, but I would have lived with that...now I don't have to.:)
 
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