Arizer Solo

poonman

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hey unpro1 ,
Some other factors ;
You may want to insert a screen in the glass stem before loading your herb . ( not a must )
Make sure the stem is all the way in , so you can't see your herbs .
The new glass can be a tight fit at first .
Let the herbs cook for a minute before first hit . ime

rinse n repeat ....
 

BowChamp

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IT'S CHARGING IM SO HAPPY.
I had tried resetting it and unplugging the plug and everything else. I was about to visit the headshop I bought it at when I decided to try it one more time.. The difference this time was the plug hadn't been plugged in for a solid couple of days. And I don't know the science behind it, all I know is that the green charge light went on and everythings good. I think it may have had to do with me leaving the plug in the outlet 24/7?
Anyways, since a lot of people are having the same problem as me try what I did as a last resort first. give it a couple days break with the charger unplugged then try it again.
Thanks Way2 and OF for the help!
 

OF

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Thanks Way2 and OF for the help!

You're welcome. Glad it working again, but I hasten to point out you really didn't do anything to change the issue. It was marginal before, slipped over the line for a while, and is now has slipped back on our side.....for a while. Nothing we said of did controlled it.

Not to be negative but 'problems that go away by themselves, come back by themselves'. You can't rest easy until you run a hard failure to ground and correct it.

FWIW I'm smelling a batch of marginal chargers?

OF
 

BowChamp

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You're welcome. Glad it working again, but I hasten to point out you really didn't do anything to change the issue. It was marginal before, slipped over the line for a while, and is now has slipped back on our side.....for a while. Nothing we said of did controlled it.

Not to be negative but 'problems that go away by themselves, come back by themselves'. You can't rest easy until you run a hard failure to ground and correct it.

FWIW I'm smelling a batch of marginal chargers?

OF
There's no doubt that there is a problem with the current chargers being shipped right now. Im just thankful that the not charging issue is just iffy and not permanent. Because I honestly didn't want to go through all that work for the charger after just getting it. And you guys still gave me a lot of options and put in your time to help out, so when it does get to hard failure I know what to do
 

OF

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There's no doubt that there is a problem with the current chargers being shipped right now. Im just thankful that the not charging issue is just iffy and not permanent.

I agree, there seems to be strong evidence of a charger problem. However (he says, putting on his Troubleshooter hat for a moment....) it don't agree with the second part. It's important to understand the problem, it's cause, and how to confidently fix it. We've really done none of that......yet. We beat a leaky roof by waiting for the sun to come out.

So, poking at this a bit I ran a test on mine. Remember, this is relative stuff, since there's not guaranty the next unit will be exactly the same. I put mine about 'mid charge' (3 lights lit) on a bench supply. I confirmed the charge current at just under 3/4 of an Amp at 12 Volts. However, and this is part of the key I think, when I let the voltage sag a tiny bit under 11 Volts, it failed and the sight show started. Just above 11 and all is well again. In general, a charger like supplied is not out of spec at that voltage, plus five minus 10% being considered a more or less good quality unit. So 10.8 Volts would probably qualify as a good unit? Except it won't charge. I'm betting the 'defective chargers' (and yours) are just on the low end of the range. Couple that with a Solo on the high side and no joy. Sometimes.

The next question is, of course, what does the factory charger do? I don't know yet. I'll have to go dig it out as I've been using a more powerful (3 Amp) supply for mine. I have two factory chargers, neither of which has been a problem (one only tested for two charges) to check, both fairly new. I not only have to find them but will need to rig up a test fixture since they must be tested under normal load to give a useful answer. And again, it's only useful with this set of gear on the day.

Clearly a lot more to be done. Does anyone with a 'defective' unit also have a meter they can make measurements for me with?

OF
 

Dreamerr

Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
If it is an ok charger for most products, not out of spec under normal circumstances, that doesn't meant it is ok for the solo as we see so my guess is that it would still be able to be exchanged under warranty. I suppose you would only have to return the charger and not the solo so if you have a PA you are still good to go.
 
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OF

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If it is an ok charger for most products, not out of spec under normal circumstances, that doesn't meant it is ok for the solo as we see so my guess is that it would still be able to be exchanged under warranty. I suppose you would only have to return the charger and not the solo so if you have a PA you are still good to go.

I agree, it's sold to work with Solo, I'm sure they will back that up. I bring up the numbers to point out many will find no fault with the charger most likely.

Yes, I think a charger swap is all that's needed.

So I measured the charger I can find right now, it's 12.28 Volts unloaded and 11.82 when it's charging. A fair drop, but not unusual IMO. 8% or so lower and I'd be SOL.

Once again, can anyone please measure the output voltage on a 'defective' one? TIA

OF
 
OF,

Dreamerr

Always in a state of confusion and silliness♀
OF, I was just trying to put it in English or shall I say American. I happen to understand what you said this time so thought I should translate if some don't. I would appreciate it when I don't which is often.

Seems like your results do prove what you said. I suppose from what I am learning from you even a marginal change below what it likes would make the solo fail or shall we say an inappropriate charger for the solo. I understand what you say to be that it needs to be more precise then some other electronics. If I am correct then that means I can still learn:D
 
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poonman

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Smart Move ;
If you bought a Solo .:2c:

Just had a thought ;
The Ascent supposedly has these ' oil cans ' ( BTW it's made of glass ) , that can allow you to do oils/budda . Why can't Arizer or PV come up with a modified stem for doing oils/budda ???

My design would be like your conventional test tube with a few holes on the side walls an inch
from the round bottom . The top part could be narrower for a more condensed hit , but still
big enough for easy loading and cleaning . Or even a 2 piece stem that can be detached .

Come On Let's put our thinking caps on .
 
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Yoshi

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What utter nonsense, I can be twice as stupid as you anytime I want. Wanna see?

And without studying or teleprompters.

OF

I made a comment about how American isn't a language, but (as always) after I sent the message I actually understood the brain dead American joke. :lol:

Back to getting the thread on course, I'm totally stoked to get some o-rings from john, who's nice enough to be sending me a couple. I really want to try your mod with it, as I can probably find some vicegrips somewhere :uhoh:
 
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salivape

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Did 4 stems last night and wow is it efficient. I dont even think Ive got the technique down yet but still its getting me so baked. Best herb related purchase Ive ever made!

Oh and the tastes is just amazing.

I am struggling with the milkshake draw though. I think theres definitely a pvhes to come in the near future
 
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ataxian

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Did 4 stems last night and wow is it efficient. I don't even think Ive got the technique down yet but still its getting me so baked. Best herb related purchase

I use the stock straight stems with no problem.
I can only do 2 stem bowls per session otherwise I loose my ability to function.

You must have a high tolerance?
 

salivape

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I use the stock straight stems with no problem.
I can only do 2 stem bowls per session otherwise I loose my ability to function.

You must have a high tolerance?

That was 4 stems over the course of the evening. One stem per session, 2 for bedtime. Ive been a heavy smoker for 10 years so my tolerance is fairly high which meant I was expecting it to take a while for me to adjust to vaping but Im glad I was wrong. One day in and Im ready to fuck combustion.

Im gonna persist with the stock stems because it may just be that Im not used to them. At first I was making a seal with my lips which I soon learned is hard work so Im now inhaling some fresh air aswell which helps a lot. I only figured that out on my final stem last night so today may be a better experience

I might try the o ring with slits as OF suggested first to see if I prefer the difference before spending the money and getting stung by UK customs.
 

ehakim

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Smart Move ;
If you bought a Solo .:2c:

Just had a thought ;
The Ascent supposedly has these ' oil cans ' ( BTW it's made of glass ) , that can allow you to do oils/budda . Why can't Arizer or PV come up with a modified stem for doing oils/budda ???

My design would be like your conventional test tube with a few holes on the side walls an inch
from the round bottom . The top part could be narrower for a more condensed hit , but still
big enough for easy loading and cleaning . Or even a 2 piece stem that can be detached .

Come On Let's put our thinking caps on .



Micro-dab?
Surprised I haven't seen this on FC. Not entirely informative videos, summer release, but making wide claims. Looks a bit like a Solo stem customized (with a glass chamber?) for the wax pellet. Use with the Solo or the Persei(nail?).
The first is a brief vid showing it in action, next two are a voice behind the product talking in front of the image.
Potential potential, uses two of my favorites.





I'm posting this in the Persei thread as well, forgive the redundancy.

I realize I've made back to back posts but they're two entirely different subjects. Didn't want to wait just for a spacer.
 
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OF

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Im gonna persist with the stock stems because it may just be that Im not used to them. At first I was making a seal with my lips which I soon learned is hard work so Im now inhaling some fresh air aswell which helps a lot. I only figured that out on my final stem last night so today may be a better experience

This is a brand new unit? By all means hold off until it's broken in. As the stem gets loose (without the added ring) air will leak in around it (what the PVHES does with notches), draw will automatically get easier after a bit.

Congrats, good purchase IMO. Enjoy it, but stay on the look out for charger issues, it seems to be the 'in thing this season'..... 'everyone's doing it'.

Best wishes.

OF
 

salivape

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This is a brand new unit? By all means hold off until it's broken in. As the stem gets loose (without the added ring) air will leak in around it (what the PVHES does with notches), draw will automatically get easier after a bit.

Congrats, good purchase IMO. Enjoy it, but stay on the look out for charger issues, it seems to be the 'in thing this season'..... 'everyone's doing it'.

Best wishes.

OF

Yes fresh out of the box yesterday and the stems are tight so you're probably spot on there. I dont have the money for more equipment until pay day so I'm going to be waiting 4 weeks at least and that's assuming they're in stock when I need them (pvhes). Hopefully that's enough time to wear the unit in.

I certainly am enjoying it, thanks for your kind words, but I actually have an issue with my charger already. I mean it works but I got a shock when I unplugged it. It seems to be retaining power for 10 seconds after I switch it off as the led takes that long to go out. I may just get on to my supplier if it persists.

Thanks again for the advice OF. You seem to be a fountain of solo and general knowledge
 

OF

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I certainly am enjoying it, thanks for your kind words, but I actually have an issue with my charger already. I mean it works but I got a shock when I unplugged it. It seems to be retaining power for 10 seconds after I switch it off as the led takes that long to go out. I may just get on to my supplier if it persists.

Thanks again for the advice OF. You seem to be a fountain of solo and general knowledge

You're very welcome. I'd definitely get the charger taken care of, shocks are not to be taken at all lightly......

As to the last bit, yeah I've been told general knowledge is one of the many things I'm full of......

OF
 

poonman

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:clap::rockon::bowdown:

Exactly what I was asking for .
Def. Deja Vu on my part , I must have seen it earlier ...hehe

Please post a vid on loading the stem .
Is the bottom part enclosed ?
Is it a 2 piece stem ?
Where is the air flowing from ?
and
Do you want my bank account # NOW ...
 
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