Arizer Solo

FLskwat

VAPOLITICS!
Just received my black baby, thx to Arizer people for this bombproofing packaging.
Just tested it out of the box: I'll do an in depth review soon...I have 1 snug diffuser tube and one "loos".
It works great, great flavor, nice clouds, restricted air path indeed at first drag...
I know for sure I'm immediately putting screens in this tube: too much particulates ...
Now I'll leave it till full charge, cause this baby is coming with me and madame to a wu-tang concert... hihihi :cool: !
 

buddhaholic420

Grand master-vaper
Just received mine. All my wife could say was, "you paid $269 for that?". All up until she tried it and was floored by the quality of the vapor coming out. :p
 

buddhaholic420

Grand master-vaper
Wow what an amazingly efficient vape IMHO. Definitely need a screen due to sucking up product in the stem. There is a need for different material for the stem as glass makes it look cheap. Kind of like a crack pipe IMO. Also seems like it will break very easily one day due to possible negligence. In any case the battery seems rock solid. Lasts a while. Would really like to know when accesories will be available. For users with loose stems, miner are snug and seem to fit exactly. Like a glove. My heat exchanger also has 4 holes on each corner. Size of load seems decent and since I am a pd user the sure flow does not seem that bad compared to that vaporizer.
 
buddhaholic420,

obelisk

Idiot (no relation to the Savants)
  • Would an hour's/hour-and-a-half's worth of run-time off a single charge allow one to use this vape about 20 times before having to recharge? That is heating it from cold to max temperature and finishing off a fully packed bowl, at a moderate pace, each time. I'm skeptical. Would be great to get feedback in this regard, even though the pace at which one finishes a fully packed bowl will differ from user to user.[/*]

  • Battery run-times experienced off a single charge seem to vary a bit. Can you guys, if you have not already, chime in with what run-times, off a single charge, you are experiencing? Doesn't seem even close to the 4 hours the manufacturer claims though.[/*]

  • For the manufacturer/Rockwise: what is the price of battery replacement, assuming one just wants the battery, not replacement service? IIRC, the 95 dollar price was for full service, i.e. new battery plus installation charge. What is it minus installation charge?[/*]

  • For the manufacturer/Rockwise: if any updates/revisions are made to the vape, or more importantly, the battery system, in upcoming months, would there be a way for early adopters to upgrade to the revised versions? This would not be a deal breaker for me (though could be a deal maker), just curious.[/*]

Seems like a very feasible portable/home vape if the battery does not disappoint, even though it might be awkward to carry around all the time. (to the guy who said he probably won't carry this on a hike, that is a big concern for me. What would be the issue stuffing this in your backpack/hydration pack? The cumbersome property of the vape/glass-tube would not matter in that case, no? I definitely see how this would be awkward to stuff in a pocket though. That is a bummer.).
 
obelisk,

max

Out to lunch
obelisk said:
What would be the issue stuffing this in your backpack/hydration pack?
As long as you pack the glass safely, I don't see a problem. It's not a pocket vape for stealth vaping in public, but should work great if you're out on a hike or camping. Recharging the battery would be the concern. This model kind of reminds me of the Vapolution-both larger portables with glass. I used the Vapo quite a bit as a portable years ago, when there was no iolite or LB available.
 
max,

vape4life

Banned for life
Sounds like the consistency of the glass pieces is all over the place between users. Some loose, some snug.. not a huge problem, but I wish I kinda had one of each lol

Still loving the unit...battery life isn't a concern for me but typically per 12 min. sesh the battery will drop one light. What does piss me off is the 12 min. auto shut off! Sure it's convenient, but like the EQ it would be even more convenient if that option was available to turn off! Sometimes I don't want it turning off on its own, and i'm sure the a/c adapter would solve that but i'm talking portability. I like to be in control of when it turns off, regardless of battery life.

Another thing I am noticing is that my pulls are dropping the temp, and it takes a while to get it back up. I try to draw slow, but even still the temp starts to drop a bit and the only way to solve the problem is simply to wait. Not a huge deal, but still.

Again, this portable continues to impress for its purpose, but does in no way replace the EQ.
 
vape4life,

mongrel

Well-Known Member
vape4life said:
Again, this portable continues to impress for its purpose, but does in no way replace the EQ.

gotta disagree with you there! the solo can and has replaced the eq for me! my method to counteract limited battery life;

1. pack solo and iolite
2. turn both on
3. go the solo and finish
4. put solo on charge
5. go the iolite and finish
6. go the solo again.
7. baked courtesy of kong.
8. solo back on charge.
9. repeat as needed.

a rockin' little device that should be nicely complemented by the wispr.

as a card carrying klutz... having no wires or tubes to trip over/catch on has already i assume, saved me from many mishaps which usually number several weekly. glass and i don't get on :-) frankly, i'm amazed that i still have 2 intact glass mouth pieces for the solo.
 

vapeguy

Well-Known Member
obelisk said:
  • Would an hour's/hour-and-a-half's worth of run-time off a single charge allow one to use this vape about 20 times before having to recharge? That is heating it from cold to max temperature and finishing off a fully packed bowl, at a moderate pace, each time. I'm skeptical. Would be great to get feedback in this regard, even though the pace at which one finishes a fully packed bowl will differ from user to user.[/*]

Don't forget that if you use it until the battery is below 30% regularly the battery life will be a few months rather than a few years. The best thing to do is assume that 30-40% is dead and never let it go below that level, unless you don't mind buying a new $100 battery every few months. There should be no reason why you would have to get it below 30% in any case, there are power outlets everywhere. I plug mine back in after every use so my battery rarely gets below 5 lights. If you're talking about going on camping and draining the battery fully once, that won't be as bad as draining it below 30% regularly, but for as long as the charge is under 30% or so, irreversible damage to the battery is in progress.

vape4life said:
What does piss me off is the 12 min. auto shut off! Sure it's convenient, but like the EQ it would be even more convenient if that option was available to turn off! Sometimes I don't want it turning off on its own, and i'm sure the a/c adapter would solve that but i'm talking portability. I like to be in control of when it turns off, regardless of battery life.

Another thing I am noticing is that my pulls are dropping the temp, and it takes a while to get it back up. I try to draw slow, but even still the temp starts to drop a bit and the only way to solve the problem is simply to wait. Not a huge deal, but still.

Again, this portable continues to impress for its purpose, but does in no way replace the EQ.

I agree the auto off can be annoying, but I prefer this occasional annoyance than forgetting it on which would break the battery forever if there was nothing to turn it off. Once a lithium battery is below a certain charge, it can never be charged again. I think they should at least have made it 15 or 20 minutes. I'm normally done in 1-2 power cycles anyway unless I'm doing something else and forgetting to use it.

I'm also quite sure the AC adapter will not disable the 12 minute power off, that would require more complex programming of the software/OS that runs the vaporizer for it to detect the power source and change the power off value accordingly, it's practically guaranteed they didn't go through the trouble of doing that.

I did notice slight drops when inhaling but they are minor and it recuperates quickly. You can always just set it one level higher if it's falling too much when you inhale. But slower inhales reduce this and produce a denser vapor so I prefer to do that.

I have to disagree that it doesn't replace the EQ, I won't be missing my EQ whatsoever, though it was in a way an improvement over the Volcano I had, I had to take it apart nearly weekly for internal cleanings or it stopped working, and though it made visible vapor, it seemed to have much less effect than the Solo's vapor. In addition to more powerful vapor, I no longer have a drawer half filled with EQ accessories I'll never use, there's no more tube for me to knock or sit on nearly breaking the EQ several times a week, no more wires keeping my vape leashed to my bedside table (and I ran the wire behind all the furniture so I couldn't just unplug it and take it somewhere else), and no more 15 minute preheats.

To me the Solo is all the good of the EQ, minus all the bad. It's a much improved EQ in my eyes. My EQ has been packed back in its box ever since I got the Solo.
 
vapeguy,

WatTyler

Revolting Peasant
aab1 said:
Don't forget that if you use it until the battery is below 30% regularly the battery life will be a few months rather than a few years. The best thing to do is assume that 30-40% is dead and never let it go below that level, unless you don't mind buying a new $100 battery every few months. There should be no reason why you would have to get it below 30% in any case, there are power outlets everywhere. I plug mine back in after every use so my battery rarely gets below 5 lights. If you're talking about going on camping and draining the battery fully once, that won't be as bad as draining it below 30% regularly, but for as long as the charge is under 30% or so, irreversible damage to the battery is in progress......


........I agree the auto off can be annoying, but I prefer this occasional annoyance than forgetting it on which would break the battery forever if there was nothing to turn it off. Once a lithium battery is below a certain charge, it can never be charged again............

I'm not doubting what you're saying at all in principle, but do we know that Arizer hasn't designed the units to discharge with these characteristics in mind?

I'm not a battery expert, yet I had understood that what you say was true a few years ago, but that in lots of modern up to date appliances using these kind of batteries actually display the battery as empty before it actually genuinely is, and cut out accordingly to prevent this type of damage to the cells.

Seems sensible and simple product design to remove this potential for easy user damage.
 
WatTyler,

Willeh

Well-Known Member
@obelisk, I have found the charge to drop one light every 12 minute cycle also. Have been using it for like a month now. It also takes about 15 minutes to go back up a light. As for intaking 20 bowl packs, yes that's possible if you are smoking it quickly as you can vape 3 bowls per cycle if you're focused, though it probably would work out more towards 14 bowls total, or two bowls per cycle. As long as you are taking breaks between your bowls and putting it back on a charger though, you can keep it going forever very easily. I still haven't had it die on me yet, and I had one pretty wicked party night with it where people were packing bowl after bowl, and it never went fully dead before I could get it back on the charger for 5 minutes or until it went back up a light, and it floated in the 30-50% battery range.

@vape4life, I agree the EQ (Or a DBV) gives a thicker vapor and works better for repeated hits for sure. Simply because they hold more herbal mass and get more vapor making stuff hot at once you can reach a higher density. A strong draw definitely cools the unit down, slower is thicker and it's best to wait 15-20 seconds between hits. I however find with proper technique the vapor to air ratio can be roughly on par with the extreme, but the draw speed is slower which causes you top absorb a lot before you exhale. When I use the solo in groups I let people finish a full bowl to themselves as opposed to passing one around to help not ruin the experience. I however think the solo does replace the extreme, as it fixed almost every issue I had with that vaporizer. I actually sold my extreme when I got my solo. I find the taste of the solo much better than the 3 foot stagnant vapor making air path of an EQ. I like that it gets to an optimal heat in about 3 minutes, as opposed to the EQ which took around 15. I like that theres no heater cover to break, because I broke mine in my extreme many times (Though that is my own fault). There really is something that is very nice about the strength of the taste of the vapor when you use it in direct draw. I can honestly say this is the tastiest vaporizer I've used- over the PD, E, VG, MFLB and DBV. And all of that is excluding its portability.
 
Willeh,

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
pakalolo,
I really hope this is false because I just bought it @ full retail :mad: hasn't even shipped yet...
 
JoeFinny,

chucku

Charles Urbane
pakalolo said:
tdavie said:
I said I would not post in this thread until I had a solo; apologies, I still don't. However, I wanted to pass along a deal from Amazon.ca that was active as of 10:51 pm CST July 3rd, 2011.

http://www.amazon.ca/Arizer-Solo-Po...r_1_7?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1309751315&sr=1-7

Price of 79$ Canadian just verified by pasting link into another tab.

Tom

Something is really really wrong about this.

If the listing is legit it suggests a fucking huge profit margin for Arizer at wholesale to other sellers. Even if selling wholesale fo 50% msrp.
 
chucku,

nowonknows

Well-Known Member
I filled out an order, came to shipping,
Standard International Shipping (averages 63-84 weeks)
Expedited International Shipping (averages 21-28 weeks)

Don't like the sound of it.
 
nowonknows,

Willeh

Well-Known Member
It seems like too large of an undercut to the market to me... my intuition tells me it's fake but who knows.
 
Willeh,

darco

Well-Known Member
nowonknows said:
I filled out an order, came to shipping,
Standard International Shipping (averages 63-84 weeks)
Expedited International Shipping (averages 21-28 weeks)

Don't like the sound of it.

I did too and I got :

Standard International Shipping (averages 8-16 business days)
Expedited International Shipping (averages 4-7 business days)

Now wondering if I should proceed. As this is Amazon so I dont think they can scam you, can they?
 
darco,

Vaporisateur

Senior Marijuanist
Vaporisateur,

Kaptan

Well-Known Member
I had to place an order on amazon. I have been very tempted to purchase one of these and this just made the deal so much sweeter if they do in fact ship. If not I used a CC that will refund the $$ if it turns out to be a scam. Amazon did send an email stating the item should ship either tomorrow or the day after so it does sound promising for those on the fence.
 
Kaptan,

darco

Well-Known Member
I have gone ahead and ordered it too! Have been waiting to get this for so long. Shipping to the US is costing $29 more but still the total is 1/3 of what it is elsewhere. I dont think it would be a scam but it could be flawed versions of devices maybe? Also the feature list says "a" glass whip, but the description says 2 and the bowl, so wondering if they actually skimp on the glassware to reduce the cost. Anyways, I really wanted the device and most of the regular online stores I buy from dont have the vape yet so I decided to risk it with this listing. At worse I'll burn a 100 bucks :p Thanks tdavie for the link (I hope! :) )

The description says its covered under warranty by K.J. Rockwise, but does look like a copy - paste of the regular device description.
 
darco,

Kaptan

Well-Known Member
darco said:
I have gone ahead and ordered it too! Have been waiting to get this for so long. Shipping to the US is costing $29 more but still the total is 1/3 of what it is elsewhere. I dont think it would be a scam but it could be flawed versions of devices maybe? Also the feature list says "a" glass whip, but the description says 2 and the bowl, so wondering if they actually skimp on the glassware to reduce the cost. Anyways, I really wanted the device and most of the regular online stores I buy from dont have the vape yet so I decided to risk it with this listing. At worse I'll burn a 100 bucks :p Thanks tdavie for the link (I hope! :) )

The description says its covered under warranty by K.J. Rockwise, but does look like a copy - paste of the regular device description.
I just spoke with the amazon retailer on the phone. This deal is in fact legit. They will also honor the warranty as stated by Rockwise!
 
Kaptan,

Vaporisateur

Senior Marijuanist
Kaptan said:
I just spoke with the amazon retailer on the phone. This deal is in fact legit. They will also honor the warranty as stated by Rockwise!

Why the low price then? Did you ask?
 
Vaporisateur,

darkrom

Great Scott!
Well I ordered to be sure. Maybe a bonehead seller mistake? Maybe my prayers were answered?

I wonder which color I'll get haha (assuming it actually shows up).
 
darkrom,
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