lookhigh
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Arizer Solo
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TheWhisper
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Because I'd rather spend $35 one time for an unbreakable stem than $25 every few months when I drop a glass stem! 
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biohacker
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ok so i've been racking my brain all day.... does anyone know what vaporizer kind of "ripped off" the Solo? There was a new release many months back...it was grey/black and had 5 preset temps instead of the 7 but looked like they ripped off 1/2 of the design.... it's in FC somewhere.....anyone?
oh ya, I think maybe it was made in europe?
oh ya, I think maybe it was made in europe?
KidFated.
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That half solo half NO2?
Dr. Soxhlet
SOLO Vaporized Cannabis is my Best Medicine
I find that my Eds' Blackwood stem is perfect for use around my seven acre spread. You can just throw the whole rig in your pocket intact, ready for use with no risk of breakage! Looks cool too...like a futuristic wood pipe.
biohacker
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My concerns stem from cleaning the wood stems....I know ISO can be used and then cleaned off, but just something about it turns me off compared to glass. I have also heard that the steel bowl gets super hot and that in itself is reason enough for me to stay far from it. The glass gong gets hot enough. But yeah, I know they are indestructable!
Dr. Soxhlet
SOLO Vaporized Cannabis is my Best Medicine
It does....careful, the top 1/4" or so of the metal is exposed; so yes, I have burned myself several times. It also acts as a heat sink, so I always use it on level 7 with Eds' while I use the stock glass at level 4.
CarolKing
Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Every Soloist should have a least one @Ed's TnT stem, make it a 3 inch WonG and you can use it as a mouthpiece as well as a water tool adapter. Wood doesn't break. You don't want to be left in a lurch.
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@Vitolo uses booze like whisky, can't remember exactly what type he used to clean his wood. Ed would answer any questions on cleaning. I've used reg 91% alcohol to clean mine.
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@Vitolo uses booze like whisky, can't remember exactly what type he used to clean his wood. Ed would answer any questions on cleaning. I've used reg 91% alcohol to clean mine.
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OF
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Every Soloist should have a least one @Ed's TnT stem, make it a 3 inch WonG and you can use it as a mouthpiece as well as a water tool adapter. Wood doesn't break. You don't want to be left in a lurch.
Yep. And there's something very cool about a Bogwood one from a tree that is older than the great Pyramids in Egypt or the Great Wall in China.
OF
biohacker
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Yeah but wood+ISO don't mesh well? Apparently temp needs to be bumped by one or 2 with these? If that's the case, it's just another deal breaker since I use glass gong mainly on 7 and wish I had just a touch more heat. Not sure I like the sound of "nutty taste" either....I like glass neutrality in flavour...should only come from the plant IMO but everyone has their own preferences.
biohacker
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Yes, 210c is fuck all for high temp vaping.... but considering it's a portable, it's all good and I wouldn't expect more, just like the S&B portables maxing out at 210c. There is at least another 15c of range before combustion gets even close, and there are many high temperature actives that require higher than 210c, ofcourse at the expense of more nasties, which don't really concern me.
lookhigh
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looks like you have your mind made up...... no woody for @biohacker
TheWhisper
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I normally use 5 with the glass stems, and I've found that 5 still works fine with the wood stems too. I think the effects are the same; the only difference is a full session (no more visible vapor) takes 1.5 autoshutoffs, instead of 1. I would assume that the steel bowl eventually reaches the same temperature as the glass bowl — it just takes longer.
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
I've been leaving my Solo on the charger every night all night recently.... Solo #2 was supposed to be on its way over a week ago, but had glitch during a refund/exchange (previous Air). So, now I think i'll just wait until black friday (hoping for a 1/2 decent sale) and finally get the Solo backup so I don't have to stress about battery management anymore.
I continue to appreciate and worship my Solo like no other vape i've owned! I can't explain the voodoo behind it, but the Solo produces the most comfortable, smooth, comfortable vapour i've ever experienced out of any other vaporizer i've used in the past 10 years. I THINK it's due to the conductive aspect, but it can't be that because I use it in convection mode much of the time and it's just as smooth. So is it the slower airflow? Not sure because the way I use the Solo it flows fast and free and I don't feel any real milkshake effect unless I push the solo down on the gong flat so the holes are blocked, and then it's like pulling cement. As soon as I tilt (easy due to natural curves in gong) the air and vapour start rushing through the water tool.
I fucking love voodoo.
I continue to appreciate and worship my Solo like no other vape i've owned! I can't explain the voodoo behind it, but the Solo produces the most comfortable, smooth, comfortable vapour i've ever experienced out of any other vaporizer i've used in the past 10 years. I THINK it's due to the conductive aspect, but it can't be that because I use it in convection mode much of the time and it's just as smooth. So is it the slower airflow? Not sure because the way I use the Solo it flows fast and free and I don't feel any real milkshake effect unless I push the solo down on the gong flat so the holes are blocked, and then it's like pulling cement. As soon as I tilt (easy due to natural curves in gong) the air and vapour start rushing through the water tool.
I fucking love voodoo.
biohacker
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The Solo is a convection AND conduction vaporizer, like most vapes out there. My term "convection mode" refers to using the Solo on max heat (I even love a nice long heatsoak without herb, just to get it to equilibrium) and then placing it on your stem, taking a draw, and removing the Solo from the stem. This prevents conduction from taking over, and you can keep going like this until it is spent, and the resulting ABV will be noticeably lighter in colour, much like convection vapes (lighter ABV in general). Or, leave the Solo attached, and go for the conduction aspect to get every last bit of goodness (I like to do this in the evenings as I find it sedating).
The herb can touch the heat source if you let it...all depends on how much you pack, if it's too full it will get darker brown, but i've never seen scorching or charring ever like I did with my previous e-Nano. If you let it just sit on it, it will go black and stink, but never combust. I've never ever EVER combusted in any Solo i've ever owned.
The herb can touch the heat source if you let it...all depends on how much you pack, if it's too full it will get darker brown, but i've never seen scorching or charring ever like I did with my previous e-Nano. If you let it just sit on it, it will go black and stink, but never combust. I've never ever EVER combusted in any Solo i've ever owned.
As far as I can tell, by any logic the Solo should operate using conduction, not convection. But there is evidence that there may be some convection aspects to it after all.
There seems to be two different viewpoints on this subject: there's the group that believes the Solo is purely conduction, and there's the group that think it's some combination of both. Personally, I lean toward the idea that the Solo is conduction only.
But what do I know?
In the end it doesn't really matter, what matters is that the Solo is a workhorse of a vape! It just performs, period.
What else does anyone need, really?
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biohacker
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If it was conduction only (which it is not), it would not work in convection mode. There is no question that it is a combo, just like most other vapes (even VRIPTECH says their vaporization system is "mostly" convection). I think it's a moot point to discuss it any further, even if it's "mostly" conduction.
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OF
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While I too think Solo is an outstanding performer I don't think it is because you "use it in convection mode much of the time" since it's a Conduction vape. Not Convection. Or Radiation. Only those three are possible routes for moving heat. Not as those terms are used in Thermodynamics normally (the only definition that counts when you're talking heat flow).
To be convection the air has to be heated higher going in than it comes out. That is it gives up heat to the load, not drawing heat from it. The convection going on is actually convection COOLING of the load, not heating it. Cold air coming in is using up heat (energy) getting heated up. Volcano, HA, T1/Cera, and ESV are all examples of convection, each has glowing metal or other hotter than vaping surfaces that 'superheat' the air going in. They are characterized by denser vapor with harder hitting, not larger volume but thinner like we see with Solo.
Some vapes use hot air in the load to spread heat faster, but Thermodynamics is based on heat flow at a system level. 'How does the heat (ability to make stuff hotter, not temperature) get into the system' is the question at hand. In Solo it comes in over time by conduction (there is a 'recovery' between hits), convection the heat comes in instantly with the draw (no recovery, minimum lag).
A 'rose by any other name', Solo still makes the vapor when the chips are down.....by conduction if the name matters.
OF
biohacker
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Thanks @OF for the explanation...I always value your insightful posts. However, I just googled "Arizer Solo Convection" and it appears that many people including myself disagree with it being a Conduction vape only.
http://torontovaporizer.ca/blog/top-3-hybrid-vaporizers/
http://torontovaporizer.ca/blog/top-3-hybrid-vaporizers/