Arizer Solo

[salvationfreak]

@CarolKing

I am going to go for the case as well now that i think i can really use it .. it surely make things more clean to keep ..

What else do you think i should get .. i mean that you think i can always need ?

Unit - Done

O ring - Done

Screen - Done

Grinder - Done

Travel caps - Done

Bubbler - Going to get one now

Gong joint - Going to get one now

Carry Case - Going to get one now

You think i am gonna need something else?

I mean something that is a must though i know there are a lot of stuff one can get but not all is necessary or add to the experience itself.

 

[CarolKing]

You probably should order more than one GonG and an extra mouthpiece because if you drop them they will break. I think you are set - you are ready for your Solo flight.

 

[altitudes]

Could someone explain to me what the O-rings are for? Is that something you replace when the factory ring wears out or is it something that upgrades the performance?

***Think I found the answer, it's just an add on to help the stems fit tighter from what I read.

 

[CrazyJustin]

@CarolKing

I am going to go for the case as well now that i think i can really use it .. it surely make things more clean to keep ..

What else do you think i should get .. i mean that you think i can always need ?

Unit - Done

O ring - Done

Screen - Done

Grinder - Done

Travel caps - Done

Bubbler - Going to get one now

Gong joint - Going to get one now

Carry Case - Going to get one now

You think i am gonna need something else?

Might I also suggest some travel tubes, sold by PV. They're great for keeping your glass stems safe. I use mine with caps at both ends of the stem.

Could someone explain to me what the O-rings are for? Is that something you replace when the factory ring wears out or is it something that upgrades the performance?

***Think I found the answer, it's just an add on to help the stems fit tighter from what I read.

They're for upgrading the Solo. They hold onto the stems, keeping them from falling out. They go between the top screw of piece and the heater.

 

[howie105]

Could someone explain to me what the O-rings are for? Is that something you replace when the factory ring wears out or is it something that upgrades the performance?

***Think I found the answer, it's just an add on to help the stems fit tighter from what I read.

The older models were bad about not holding the glass in place and folks were looking for way to prevent that, thus the rings. Newer models not as bad but some folks feel it better safe then sorry.

 

[Dr. Soxhlet]

Could you please let me know the gong joint i should go for and the best match as in the bubbler that you think works best with solo..

And yeah one more thing i really don't know about the sizes as well whats with the 14" and 18" ?

The 18 mm will work with the D020, the 14mm works with bubblers and water tubes like the Pinnacle Water Tool.

I prefer the D020, but PWT has it's place in my lineup.

I paid about $35 for both 14mm and 18mm GonGs with no shipping charge.
How is that possible?
Every new Solo and Air come with what is called an "aroma therapy dish".
If you take that to your local glass blower, they will most likely have the other connecter you need and will be able to make a GonG for you.
My friend just got an Air. When she gets her waterpipe we will go have another one made for her.

 

[OF]

Could someone explain to me what the O-rings are for?

They are intended to keep the bent stem from rotating as the unit is tipped due to gravity.

They're for upgrading the Solo. They hold onto the stems, keeping them from falling out. They go between the top screw of piece and the heater.

No, that is not correct. They are not to keep the stem from falling out, the maker does not consider loose stems a fault (no warranty). Attempting to use them to 'keep stems from falling out' puts undue strain on the four tabs on the bottom, eventually cracking or breaking them entirely.

I advise against this, it's not the intent of the mod.

Newer models not as bad but some folks feel it better safe then sorry.

This is not true AFAIK. The seal on my new model seems identical to the earlier one. Both loosen up in use as the seal hardens and shrinks back a mite.

There should be no 'better safe than sorry' aspect, you should not depend on them to combat gravity. Keep it upright or be careful. Stems can be looser when hot, so even one that's 'plenty tight' cold can fall freely when hot. The oven expands more than the glass stem with heat.

OF

 

[CrazyJustin]

No, that is not correct. They are not to keep the stem from falling out, the maker does not consider loose stems a fault (no warranty). Attempting to use them to 'keep stems from falling out' puts undue strain on the four tabs on the bottom, eventually cracking or breaking them entirely.

I advise against this, it's not the intent of the mod.

Have you ever had the stem stick to your lip, when you pull the Solo away from your face? The o-rings, keep the stem from falling out.

You can even hold the Solo upside down. I do this when I put concentrates in, with some bud. I like the heated concentrate to run away from the air intake, while the Solo is heating up.

 

[OF]

Have you ever had the stem stick to your lip, when you pull the Solo away from your face? The o-rings, keep the stem from falling out.

You can even hold the Solo upside down.

No, thankfully I've avoided that thus far. In such a mishap a ring might save the day but that doesn't change the point that that is not what the mod is intended to do, nor can it be counted on in all cases. It's a convenience (bent stem rotation) not safety fix. As designed, the downside risk is confined to the stem rotating.

Your Solo and stem, but it's not designed for defying gravity.

OF

 

[altitudes]

Have you ever had the stem stick to your lip, when you pull the Solo away from your face? The o-rings, keep the stem from falling out.

Are the stems really that loose of a fit? I don't mind a little bit of play rotation wise and don't have a need to hit it upside down but it almost sounds like if you set the solo upright on your desk, something like the bent stem might fall out.

From most of the videos I've seen on the solo the stems really seem to "lock" in place but all of those examples were fairly unused units.

 

[salvationfreak]

From most of the videos I've seen on the solo the stems really seem to "lock" in place but all of those examples were fairly unused units

Exactly what i was thinking.. i mean i have seen a lot of videos and it really seems they lock right in their place. But then i still have no experience myself trying my hands on the unit neither have i had a session to know it more intimately.. i wonder though

 

[OF]

Are the stems really that loose of a fit? I don't mind a little bit of play rotation wise and don't have a need to hit it upside down but it almost sounds like if you set the solo upright on your desk, something like the bent stem might fall out.

Loose is pretty subjective to start with, but it varies widely with heat and the individual stem (they vary, too).

Compared to stem vapes, the fit is very very tight. Solo doesn't rattle, really, but they can wobble around some. In fact, this is a feature. Once broken in, the seal generally allows you to tip the stem a bit to break the seal of the square end of the stem against the flat bottom of the oven. Some guys intentionally raise the stem to do this, but if the seal allows tipping does the same thing (give you better control).

If you don't turn it over, or start waving the Solo around the stem won't climb out on it's own and make a break for it........even if your screen name is Ataxian.

Exactly what i was thinking.. i mean i have seen a lot of videos and it really seems they lock right in their place.

They can be very tight when new, in fact many times you have to heat it up for a bit in order to get the stem in the first few times. That rapidly goes away. Over hundreds of uses, it loosens up and tends to 'stop stretching' (or at least slow way down).

OF

 

[Grim Chiclets]

If you don't turn it over, or start waving the Solo around the stem won't climb out on it's own and make a break for it

This, it just jiggles a tiny bit.
Some people even use a dremel/rotary tool to notch their own PVHES style channels into the stock stems.

........even if your screen name is Ataxian.

 

[CrazyJustin]

With regular use, the Solo loosens up around the stems. Plus I think some batches of stems vary in size.

 

[altitudes]

Loose is pretty subjective to start with, but it varies widely with heat and the individual stem (they vary, too).

Compared to stem vapes, the fit is very very tight. Solo doesn't rattle, really, but they can wobble around some. In fact, this is a feature. Once broken in, the seal generally allows you to tip the stem a bit to break the seal of the square end of the stem against the flat bottom of the oven. Some guys intentionally raise the stem to do this, but if the seal allows tipping does the same thing (give you better control).

If you don't turn it over, or start waving the Solo around the stem won't climb out on it's own and make a break for it........even if your screen name is Ataxian.



They can be very tight when new, in fact many times you have to heat it up for a bit in order to get the stem in the first few times. That rapidly goes away. Over hundreds of uses, it loosens up and tends to 'stop stretching' (or at least slow way down).

OF

Good to know, thanks for the info. It doesn't sound like it will be too much of an issue if I get a solo, and if it is I can always get o-rings later. Whichever unit I pick up will probably see limited use either way as I'm not an all day/every day smoker.

I really don't think I'll find a comparable vape for $120 that has the same value as a Solo.

Does the Air have a similar fit with stems to the Solo?

 

[OF]

Does the Air have a similar fit with stems to the Solo?

Similar materials, different design. There are 3 closely spaced ribs, rather than the single one in Solo. They too loosen up, but IMO at a slower rate and to a lesser degree so far. Conscious effort is needed to control the flow by stem adjustment there, at least for me. Solo has become automatic. When I put my otherwise wonderful Ed's wood stem (metal bowl) in the Solo I was suddenly clumsy getting hits 'naturally'. Ed's metal end is a tiny bit larger than most of my glass stems, but more important it's quite round (the glass ones usually aren't) so for the same diameter Ed's has a slightly longer circumference and therefore needs the seal to stretch a bit more.

OF

 

[vaporcloud]

Loose stems are not an issue it's a feature that allows more air to flow in. The solo wasn't designed to be held by the stem like a milkshake isn't designed to be held by the straw. I know the orings help some but they are not a necessary accessory for most.

 

[altitudes]

Just an update, I contacted Arizer about the eBay seller with $119 Solos and they just got back to me confirming that he is indeed an authorized distributor.

 

[salvationfreak]

Just an update, I contacted Arizer about the eBay seller with $119 Solos and they just got back to me confirming that he is indeed an authorized distributor.

I asked them as well .. guess what i heard back,

" Hello ,Thank you for your email.Most retailers on eBay are not Authorized Retailers, but many retailers still offer and provide full warranty service. We often hear horror stories from customer who purchase items from a discount retailer, only to receive the item with missing or broken parts, used or refurbished goods, and in some cases receiving nothing at all. If you're considering purchasing one of our products we strongly recommend purchasing or ordering from a local trusted retailer, or from an online Authorized Retailer who can provide you with warranty service if it is ever required. I hope this helps. If you have any further questions please feel to ask. "

BTW the gentleman i heard from was Kevin if that matters.

 

[CarolKing]

Not everyone feels a need to use an o-ring. I don't use one, I get better airflow without one. The Solo is designed to be able to rock and move your stem around. Some folks prefer that their stem hold tighter in place so it doesn't fall out. Sometimes it's personal preference. Some folks don't like the PVHES stems and others do.

Whatever way you decide is best for you is the right way. It's nice to know there are several ways to use our fav portable.

EDIT
That letter sounds similar what was sent to me. They said they would cover warranty even if you buy from an unauthorized seller. You have to be careful. They could take your money and leave you with nothing or a fake vaporizer. I'm glad that you guys checked to make sure that it was safe.

 

[altitudes]

I asked them as well .. guess what i heard back,

" Hello ,Thank you for your email.Most retailers on eBay are not Authorized Retailers, but many retailers still offer and provide full warranty service. We often hear horror stories from customer who purchase items from a discount retailer, only to receive the item with missing or broken parts, used or refurbished goods, and in some cases receiving nothing at all. If you're considering purchasing one of our products we strongly recommend purchasing or ordering from a local trusted retailer, or from an online Authorized Retailer who can provide you with warranty service if it is ever required. I hope this helps. If you have any further questions please feel to ask. "

BTW the gentleman i heard from was Kevin if that matters.

Well, that's strange. Did you provide them a link to the seller in questions auction? I made sure to link the specific Solo auction and this was their reply:

"Hello,
Thank you for your email.
The retailer you are inquiring about is an Authorized Arizer Retailer. If you have any further questions please feel free to ask!
Best Regards,"

It was from a different Arizer rep than Kevin though. It's weird because the seller has an info page where he mentions to specifically ask Kevin from Arizer if they are a legit vendor.

I am confuse...

 

[salvationfreak]

Well, that's strange. Did you provide them a link to the seller in questions auction? I made sure to link the specific Solo auction and this was their reply:

"Hello,
Thank you for your email.
The retailer you are inquiring about is an Authorized Arizer Retailer. If you have any further questions please feel free to ask!
Best Regards,"

It was from a different Arizer rep than Kevin though. It's weird because the seller has an info page where he mentions to specifically ask Kevin from Arizer if they are a legit vendor.

I am confuse...

I dunno but i really was not getting the satisfaction going on with ebay .. specially when i heard this back from the Arizer itself.

And about asking Arizer of a specific seller.. not really.. i never asked them of a particular seller to be honest.

 

[DreamHaze]

@salvationfreak
since you're gettin all that, get something to clean your bubbler and stems.
Get some 90% iso alcohol
or some PBW, as some one mentioned a while back. i still need that myself

 

[salvationfreak]

@salvationfreak
since you're gettin all that, get something to clean your bubbler and stems.
Get some 90% iso alcohol
or some PBW, as some one mentioned a while back. i still need that myself

Just when i thought i was not missing nothing now.

 

[CarolKing]

You can buy alcohol anywhere. You will use alcohol to clean your stems - folks refer it as ISO its Isoprophyl Alcohol. I bought my 91% ISO at a grocery store. The stems are easily soaked with ISO and rinsed with hot water after - then they are clean again.

You can scrape the excess oil that accumulates on your glass mouthpiece, then put it in cotton then vaporize that. You can sandwhich oil in between your herb too and vaporize it that way.

I enjoy stirring some hot cocoa with a well oiled stem before bed.

EDIT
@Quetzalcoatl We forgot the most important part! Glad you mentioned that part. Don't use too wet of product. Make sure you have well cured meds.