Arizer Solo

[VapeNStone]

Well the second one is not on the list of bad sellers so I say go for it! As for the first one, I know its Amazon but it is still being sold by a private party seller. So just find out who that is and check to see if they are on the list at the top of the forum where it says "beware bad sellers" or whatever.

 

[OhTheAgony]

Frequency Test

I estimate the sound coming from the Solo is 17khz and very low volume, so those of you that can/can't hear the noise from your Solo see if you can/can't hear the 17khz setting with normal-low volume.

I'm pretty sure all Solos make the noise but most ears (especially more "mature" ears) can't audibly pick it up.

ugh, hopefully mine doesnt make that noise too much/too loud, cause that feels like it sears straight into my brain via my ears. i can kinda hear 18k too, but its more from noticing a difference in noise when it starts or stops than while its actually going on.

This 38 year old male can hear both 17 and 18K clearly from that test, but my Solo is completely quiet to those same ears. With my ear close to or on the device, while heating and in between heating, bottom, top, sides, I hear nothing.

I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[tdavie]

Is Vaporizers.ca an authorized reseller? They have thje Solo listed for $259.00 shipping and taxes included.

http://www.vaporizers.ca/product.php/product_id/938

It says full support and warranty, but....

Tom

(I've bought from them before; an MFLB)

 

[VapeNStone]

Hello to all,

@Stu : my glassblower is categoric : the Solo's stems are borosilicate, because he has burn one and he had modified one for me.

just a few words for say a big thanks to Arizer who sent me the new SS Solo version at no cost, because my ceramic is chipping. That is great customer service !!!!!

Now i have tested it for a week, i think exactly the same that vape4life 2 pages before :

This new version has a better better airflow, but the vapor is thinner........

First the the four air intake holes at the bottom of the bowl are larger than the ceramic version, so
airflow is better..... but vapor less thick, and plant pieces fallen often in the holes.
After vaping, suck in the 4 holes, and you will eat some pieces.... that don't happen with the ceramic version.

The new 4 holes stems are useless for me, too much airflow, and temps is getting lower, so -> not too much vapor with theses stems...

For having the same clouds (thick) than with my ceramic Solo, i must use 2 holes stems, Temp 7, and a packed tight bowl. Now i have clouds like the Level 5 Setting on my ceramic Solo.

The SS version is also heating less : this is the answer of Kevin at Arizer about my questions :

"I double checked with our engineers and have been informed that the Stainless Steel models are in fact programmed with slightly different temperatures; each temperature setting in the Stainless Steel units is 5 degrees Celsius cooler than the ceramic units.

Best Regards,
Kevin
Arizer Tech"

So now i understand why i use it always at Level 6 or 7. Maybe for concentrates it will be a problem....

Despite all, i think the SS version is not better than the Cermai bowl, just different.
I think it's always the best portalble vape i have.

And for the statistics : i have never had headaches here, no stink/strange odors, nor with my Cermic, nor with my SS Solo.

Join me to that list as well. Just received an email back from Kevin over at Arizer and he said that they are sending me a new SS solo and no charge because mine also started chipping. I can't talk about how awesome the customer service is over there!!!!!!! Not to mention when I first heard about the SS model I kinda was a little pissed because I had just bought mine a few weeks earlier. So I emailed kevin because I had heard the new replacements came with 4 hole stems that would flow better and he just sent me 2 straight and 2 bent 4 holes stems without even batting an eye at no charge! They are absolutely amazing. It does suck for the smelly solos that really just get throw under the water. But, I guess baking the cap or doing some sort of Macgyver is the price you have to pay to get huge ass vape hits on the go! I'll update once my SS model gets here.

 

[thecragus]

Is Vaporizers.ca an authorized reseller? They have thje Solo listed for $259.00 shipping and taxes included.

http://www.vaporizers.ca/product.php/product_id/938

It says full support and warranty, but....

Tom

(I've bought from them before; an MFLB)

I used GreatVape.com, (in CA). The Solo was $199 with free expedited shipping and, they had to issue a return (Stinky Solo) and were very helpful. I received one of the SS vapes as my exchange and it is "Poifect" as Cury would say....ymmv

 

[Bertus77]

Hello,

I want to introduce myself, Im Ezekiel from Spain, new at this forum and at the vapo scene too. I want to stop smoking and go Vapo cause I dontt have a lot of joy smoking, I just do to medicate and I have ordered last week a Arizer Solo to Start , I just hope Ill get the good one. (and I hope Ill get it fast too cause im waiting since a week and i dont have no idea when it will arrive)

About the smell, could it be the cable insulation that with the massive heat are causing this ?? I Hope Ill get the good one but if i dont, Ill maybe know something about this smell, cause Im electrician and I exatly know how it smells wenn cables are burning.

Ive a question ?? How many Time muss I hit the solo before use it for the first time ???? 4 x at 7 will be enough ??

Regards,

Bertus

 

[max]

Is Vaporizers.ca an authorized reseller?

Yes. They're the most established on-line vape dealer in Canada.

I used GreatVape.com, (in CA).

Greatvape is located in Oregon. Another top rate dealer.

Ill maybe know something about this smell, cause Im electrician and I exatly know how it smells wenn cables are burning.

Good luck with your purchase Bertus. There won't be any insulation burning. If that was an issue the design never would have been taken to production.

 

[vape4life]

Hey Bertus, welcome to FC. It's always refreshing when a newbie starts off posting with inquisitive questions/ideas instead of just fishing for a handout.

I'm thinking the same thing, I can see the wires, and am thinking that it's possible that some units offgas the sheathing potentially. That would be uterly horrible, so I hope i'm wrong.

I find with the new SS solo, i'm happy at temp 5...with my ceramic i'm usually at 3 or 4. What Arizer says is correct re: the new temps. Sadly, I wish they informed us of this instead of through an email with another member. The SS does the trick, but I am happy to have both

Hello,

I want to introduce myself, Im Ezekiel from Spain, new at this forum and at the vapo scene too. I want to stop smoking and go Vapo cause I dontt have a lot of joy smoking, I just do to medicate and I have ordered last week a Arizer Solo to Start , I just hope Ill get the good one. (and I hope Ill get it fast too cause im waiting since a week and i dont have no idea when it will arrive)

About the smell, could it be the cable insulation that with the massive heat are causing this ?? I Hope Ill get the good one but if i dont, Ill maybe know something about this smell, cause Im electrician and I exatly know how it smells wenn cables are burning.

Ive a question ?? How many Time muss I hit the solo before use it for the first time ???? 4 x at 7 will be enough ??

Regards,

Bertus

 

[Sinclue]

Is Vaporizers.ca an authorized reseller?

Yes. They're the most established on-line vape dealer in Canada.

I used GreatVape.com, (in CA).

Greatvape is located in Oregon. Another top rate dealer.

Just received two 4 hole straight tubes from GreatVape. They're not shown on the web site (the curved 4 holes are), but if you ask they probably have some of the straight ones they can send you at that price. email Stephen (info@GreatVape.com), he was very helpful to me and very prompt in replies.

I ran both my Solos (Ceramic and SS) twice at 7 to burn off manufacturers smells. Other than the Ceramic chipping (hence the SS) I haven't had any of the other issues mentioned. I personally know of 5 other Solos (mostly Ceramic) that are also issue free.

 

[w4m2k0]

Mine just came in after two weeks of waiting.... No smells!!!!!! Pretty excited. I do however hear that noise.... I don't think it's too much of a bother To me^ though. Wish me^ luck in my hopefully wonderful vaping days hahah

 

[Papa Woody]

I got my first M104 Solo about 2 weeks ago and it had the smell. I ran it through 20 full level 7 cycles and the smell stayed the same. When I put an empty stem in place and puffed off it I could taste the odor and after about 15 minutes I had a pounding headache. It left a bad aftertaste as well. I received a replacement about a week later (Thanks Randy) and it too had an odor although not as bad as the first. Then I read CDS's recent post about baking the top and thought "Why don't I simply remove the top and try it?" I did and what do you know...no smell. I put the empty stem in and no bad taste. So I went ahead and baked the top at 400F for 15 minutes as stated many times in earlier posts and I'm now stink free! Earlier I thought could it be the wire insulation? the plastic heater housing? The internal electronics? ...I should have listened to all those who baked their tops earlier and just did that from the get go. It would be nice if in the future Arizer would make an SS version with a brushed aluminum housing and no paint, a fully SS heater housing with no plastic parts, and isolate the airpath so nothing can impart any hint of odor. That would be a sweet stink free unit. Thanks Charliedontsurf, your post set me on the proper path to correct this issue.

 

[CentiZen]

I myself also have a M104 series unit and I haven't experienced ANY weird odors. I guess I can count myself lucky. One thing I'm confused about is the type of battery that's in the solo. Some sources say it's LiPo, some say it's LiIon and I want to know for sure because I have the ability to obtain manufactured battery packs but I need to know the specifications so I can get some and offer them at a lower price so people who are afraid of sautering don't have to send their unit to arizer for 100 dollars to replace the batteries.

 

[dorkus_molorkus]

@centizen- you could read the thread or post 2311 in particular

 

[vaplexus]

FYI the wires you see from the top are insulated with high grade Teflon.

Here is a vid comparing a SS with a ceramic, heat/cool times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0mkjpm-gpk

 

[Insite]

I have purchased the Solo a number of months ago and had no smell issues. This was a M102 unit. It was great. I vape on 5 and the cloud was excellent. No smell BUT after a while the ceramic coating started to flake. I really did not have a major issue with this. I noticed online that there was a SS model so I ordered it and it arrived. The smell took me by surprise. It is a M105 unit stainless steel.

First, I do believe that the smell is caused by the fact the unit is new and I think it is excess Tinning Flux being burned off which is what they use to help solder the mother board and wires together. It is a greasy type of material and I am pretty sure its the excess being burnt off. This would explain why it gets worse with some when you heat it up.

Here is how I dealt with it. Heat the unit to 7 for 3 - 12 minute cycles. Let cool and do that 3 to 6 times. Let cool and charge up again and repeat the process. The smell which was bad in my second unit (and remember I had no issues with the first unit) did get better and now there is very little to no smell. Don't forget to move the little plastic lid.

SS versus ceramic. Ceramic is much better at keeping heat versus stainless steel which seems to cool quicker (than ceramic). I think the company new that and tried very hard to have the ceramic base (which is a coating over ss) work as it was the better solution. The SS in my opinion was settling but saying that my ss is almost as good as the ceramic. Although I tend to turn to 6 while I draw as the SS cools down during draw and the ceramic does not as it keeps the heat better due to its qualities.

This unit is excellent. If you are going to freak when the ceramic starts flaking buy the SS. If you want slightly better clouds and better heat retention buy the ceramic but it could flake and no I do not think you will get sick from it.

The company is excellent on customer service VIA email only. I sent some pics and info on my flaking unit and as with others, the shipped me an new SS model. So I now have to SS models and a flaking ceramic. No its not really overkill. I can entertain now and don't have to share my unit.

I have an Extreme Q and portables Solo both SS and Ceramic, MFLB, Itorch and an Iolite. In order on the portables I like the Solo Ceramic, Solo SS, MFLB, Iolite and than the Itorch (which I plan to sell). The Solo makes the Itorch obsolete.

I hope this may help some as I would be really bummed if the smell did not go away BUT saying that if it did not go away the company upon shipping the unit to them would replace it. The customer EMAIL support is great. Not all are but they will deal with you this way and for me from start to finish it was a week from sending the pic to replacement in my hand. Just don't expect someone to answer the phone. Once you get beyond that, email is the way to deal with the company.

Be patient.

 

[LiquidL]

Long time lurker, first time poster though I am hardly new to vaping. Bought my first vape in 1997 from the 'net (Purple Cloud9). Possibly the first item I bought ever on the Internet.
Since then, went back to combustion for years, then picked up Vapir O2 couple years ago but that unit was not quite ready for primetime. Went back to combustion for a bit and now finally decided to fuck combustion. Which brings me to this. I just bought an Arizer Solo from amazon for $174 including shipping. I got the M102 model. Haven't had the chance to try it out yet (I have become a weekend warrior - lower tolerance, lower cash expenditure).
So I was wondering is there any recommendations for using first time like fully charging then discharging the battery? Is this model afflicted with the smell issue for which I'd need to bake?
I tried searching but the search only shows the forum and not individual posts.
Hope to post some experiences soon!

 

[cluffy]

LiquidL, the search has an option to view results as posts. It's almost as easy to skim the whole thread if you have the time though, lots of info to be had.

 

[automaticguy]

Just wanted to give my take on this vape.

I've been using a magic-flight since late september of last year. I've been wanting something a little more controlled temperature-wise, so I sprung for the Solo. I received model M104 with a ceramic bowl. Haven't smelled anything bad coming from the device at all. I'm sure this will replace the launch box for a majority of my sessions.

Like everyone has been saying, the fit and finish is impressive. I got the black finish and the pictures online do not do it justice. It's a solid weight in the hand, i'd be scared to death if I dropped it on wood or concrete. But generally, I'd rather have hefty than cheap.

Man, this thing can produce some good clouds, and make a little herb go a long way. I feel like I can have a longer session with the Solo over the mflb because of the temperature control. The mflb seemed to brown herb very quickly, especially with friends that haven't used it before and accidentally combust because of the learning curve.

Well, I'm still blazed out of my skull from this beastly portable so I'm gonna go and eat a snack. If you're on the fence about the Solo don't think twice.

 

[guitarscreamngrowler]

so is the solo worth getting. with all the chipping an everything my headshop by me primal has some solos an magic flight launch box. which should i get i got the cash covered dont worry

 

[OhTheAgony]

3 noobs on one page making relatively long posts phrasing the Solo.

I may just be paranoid, but you'd almost think like someone would want to place their product in a better light after all the negs of past few weeks.

IP check mods?

 

[vape4life]

Valid point, there has been some newbies in other threads that have been a little suspect too. Regardless, the praise that these newbies are giving isn't without warrant.

Insite: Great post!

Teflon coated wires? Isn't inhaling teflon carcingenic? Really hope that's not what's offgassing.

Again, much prefer the ceramic even with minor flaking. With a deal like that on amazon for a ceramic, it's almost worth buying another one! lol

ok, now for a bit of a rant on Arizer....(sigh) again..

Sure, their email support is pretty good, and they have been shutting us up a bit with a FREE SS replacement, which doesn't work AS great as the ceramic. But I am officially done with Arizer! They fucking LIE LIE LIE, and IMO only don't give a fuck about anything other than profit. Thankfully, there are so many portables coming out that they won't dominate the market like they did with the Extreme. Pathetic to rush a product like this with all its issues.....the smell being the most concerning. Health should be the #1 concern (hell, isn't that why we fuck combustion?), and i'm definitely not convinced anymore that this is a "safe" vape.

Just the fact that they have no presence here says enough. They could save themselves so much time and effort by doing that instead of weeding through a million emails of the same content. I have much more faith in other companies that actually come here to explain shit. Heck, that's worth $$$ right there.

Arizer, next time you may wanna try some beta testers from here, because that flaking ceramic isn't an "isolated batch" issue and only affects 1%....BS. Something that happened SO quickly and to SO many gets to production? lol Not a huge fan of burning off those residues either. gross.

3 noobs on one page making relatively long posts phrasing the Solo.

I may just be paranoid, but you'd almost think like someone would want to place their product in a better light after all the negs of past few weeks.

IP check mods?

 

[vape4life]

Get the Solo, or wait for reviews on the vivape (or is the portable mivape? lol) / vapor blunt. From everything i've read solo > mflb except for stealth.

so is the solo worth getting. with all the chipping an everything my headshop by me primal has some solos an magic flight launch box. which should i get i got the cash covered dont worry

 

[vape4life]

I assume this teflon is extremely heat resistant? Just still wondering what is causing the smell... it's not the cap because even with it off I can still smell a bit of something chemically.

FYI the wires you see from the top are insulated with high grade Teflon.

Here is a vid comparing a SS with a ceramic, heat/cool times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0mkjpm-gpk

 

[vape4life]

Absolutely fucking ridiculous for a $300 vape! Why the fuck didn't Arizer bake them properly? Maybe they should give big discounts for bake it yourself solo! lol These issues should simply NOT be occuring. If it wasn't Arizer, this vape wouldn't stand a chance.

I got my first M104 Solo about 2 weeks ago and it had the smell. I ran it through 20 full level 7 cycles and the smell stayed the same. When I put an empty stem in place and puffed off it I could taste the odor and after about 15 minutes I had a pounding headache. It left a bad aftertaste as well. I received a replacement about a week later (Thanks Randy) and it too had an odor although not as bad as the first. Then I read CDS's recent post about baking the top and thought "Why don't I simply remove the top and try it?" I did and what do you know...no smell. I put the empty stem in and no bad taste. So I went ahead and baked the top at 400F for 15 minutes as stated many times in earlier posts and I'm now stink free! Earlier I thought could it be the wire insulation? the plastic heater housing? The internal electronics? ...I should have listened to all those who baked their tops earlier and just did that from the get go. It would be nice if in the future Arizer would make an SS version with a brushed aluminum housing and no paint, a fully SS heater housing with no plastic parts, and isolate the airpath so nothing can impart any hint of odor. That would be a sweet stink free unit. Thanks Charliedontsurf, your post set me on the proper path to correct this issue.

Modnote: Please avoid making back-to-back posts in a thread. Use the Edit feature located near the lower right of your posts. Thank you.

 

[darkrom]

3 noobs on one page making relatively long posts phrasing the Solo.

I may just be paranoid, but you'd almost think like someone would want to place their product in a better light after all the negs of past few weeks.

IP check mods?

Seconded please.