Arizer Solo

[lowdeuces]

Howdy. Sorry you're having troubles. I suspect the charger way more than the battery.

Perhaps a shorted battery could do this, very rare for one to short really. The Solo should try to charge whatever is there, the fact it doesn't show battery level is troubling.

My guess is the charger is collapsing when the load of actually trying to charge the battery happens so the Solo backs off, the charger recovers some and around we go.

I know this is probably a dumb question, but any chance you can borrow or otherwise try another charger or PA (since your unit is old enough for that)?

Batteries don't tend to flat out die like that, the generally get weaker and weaker.

Good luck.

OF

I finally got around to trying another charger, problem solved.

Thanks to you and Q for the assistance.

2 days prior to this situation, I bought and Ascent, and while it does the job, I personally find the Solo far superior, in every way.......

 

[Cutta J]

My solo just came in from puffitup and I also ordered the screens from puffitup as well as I see everyone rates them high.

My question is... How do I use these screens? Where to I place them and how exactly do they help?

 

[poonman]

My solo just came in from puffitup and I also ordered the screens from puffitup as well as I see everyone rates them high.

My question is... How do I use these screens? Where to I place them and how exactly do they help?

You insert the screen inside the bowl part of the glass stem .
Beneath the 4 holes . They help keep herb bits traveling up
the stem or into your mouth .

Don't forget to do a full charge before using , maybe a burn in too on level 7 .
Enjoy your New Solo .

edit , you won't need screens if you use whole nuggets .
The screens are for fine grind mostly .

 

[Cutta J]

You insert the screen inside the bowl part of the glass stem .
Beneath the 4 holes . They help keep herb bits traveling up
the stem or into your mouth .

Don't forget to do a full charge before using , maybe a burn in too on level 7 .
Enjoy your New Solo .

edit , you won't need screens if you use whole nuggets .
The screens are for fine grind mostly .

Thank you very much

 

[OF]

Thanks to you and Q for the assistance.

2 days prior to this situation, I bought and Ascent, and while it does the job, I personally find the Solo far superior, in every way.......

You're welcome, of course, good to know you're back on track. Thanks for the good word.

I had a chance to try another Member's 'spare' Ascent. Nice enough machine, I can see how it appeals to some, but I bought a second Solo instead of an Ascent of my own. It 'fits my pistol' better I think?

OF

 

[Pappy]

You're welcome, of course, good to know you're back on track. Thanks for the good word.

I had a chance to try another Member's 'spare' Ascent. Nice enough machine, I can see how it appeals to some, but I bought a second Solo instead of an Ascent of my own. It 'fits my pistol' better I think?

I preordered the Ascent and don't consider it in the same league as Solo. Assembly and build quality was 3rd World and it didn't function well as a vape. I returned it to DV for a refund.

 

[Pipes]

Me thinks you've discovered one of the magic high efficiency traits of the SOLO - less is more!

I've been scratching my head over this and other similar comments. I too notice that sometimes the load seems to go and go. Key word here is "sometimes" which doesn't make sense so I had to ponder somewhat to figure out what is happening.
What I suspect and seems to hold true is the honey coming down from the stem and finding it's way back to the load. To control this "sometimes" to "now is a good time". Is actually pretty easy. Like getting the 6th oil change free in your car.
Pack the way you normally pack. With me it's to the top and lightly patted down. Do this for 5 loads or till the lower part of stem gets a little honey build up. Than do a 1/2 to 2/3 non packed load. This let's more heat through and into the stem. By the time the load is close to done some honey should find it's way and you should find it goes for 2 full sessions.
This seems to be the answer to why sometimes......? I think..

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I preordered the Ascent and don't consider it in the same league as Solo. Assembly and build quality was 3rd World and it didn't function well as a vape. I returned it to DV for a refund.

To be fair, at this point the Solo has had years on the Ascent in terms of building/fixing. It's refined to the point where the only changes have been a change in airflow and the ability to use while charging.

I've been scratching my head over this and other similar comments. I too notice that sometimes the load seems to go and go. Key word here is "sometimes" which doesn't make sense so I had to ponder somewhat to figure out what is happening.
What I suspect and seems to hold true is the honey coming down from the stem and finding it's way back to the load. To control this "sometimes" to "now is a good time". Is actually pretty easy. Like getting the 6th oil change free in your car.
Pack the way you normally pack. With me it's to the top and lightly patted down. Do this for 5 loads or till the lower part of stem gets a little honey build up. Than do a 1/2 to 2/3 non packed load. This let's more heat through and into the stem. By the time the load is close to done some honey should find it's way and you should find it goes for 2 full sessions.
This seems to be the answer to way sometimes......? I think..

Offering a counter-point (yeah, there's always gotta be that guy...) I've been almost exclusively using my Solo with water lately with my PVHES GonG on my bubbler, so my stem's inverted. I've noticed an interesting phenomenon on some of my stems where the reclaim seems to start where the stem would sit flush with the lid of the Solo, and not from "the other side" of the glass screen. I think maybe smaller loads are letting more heat transfer to the interior of the stem above the glass screen and letting the reclaim vaporize as well.

Again, I think that's what's happening. That's the only reason I can think of why my reclaim always starts some mm's above the glass screen, plus I use it inverted a lot so maybe the reclaim is being pulled down, far enough away that it doesn't vaporize, but if you use it normally it would drip down towards the heater and get vaped. Then again I get into the habit of cleaning my stems when I switch strains, so I'm not sure if I'm right or just talkin' shit (again...).

 

[Pappy]

To be fair, at this point the Solo has had years on the Ascent in terms of building/fixing. It's refined to the point where the only changes have been a change in airflow and the ability to use while charging.

I'm a tough customer. Creating a great vape requires not only an intimate understanding of the vaporists' needs, it requires engineering and manufacturing expertise. Arizer has proven itself with two revolutionary products. Their industrial engineering is second to none unless you consider the Herbalizer, which appears to be just a glorified knockoff of the Exteme Q.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I'm a tough customer. Creating a great vape requires not only an intimate understanding of the vaporists' needs, it requires engineering and manufacturing expertise. Arizer has proven itself with two revolutionary products. Their industrial engineering is second to none unless you consider the Herbalizer, which appears to be just a glorified knockoff of the Exteme Q.

Have to agree with the feel, it just feels solid in the hand. Definitely a blessing from the pictures and words, I didn't think it'd feel as sturdy as it is. As for the Herbalizer, I think it's a bit more robust than the EQ, and the halogen really shines (pun intended ) for the application. Exciting times!

 

[fernand]

Here's the Philips/Norelco shaver case I found. As you can see it's a nice fit, and the stem gets a separate "pocket" that's padded. It doesn't shrink the Solo, but seems to.

 

[Newcastle]

I mentioned in the Extreme Q thread about using the SSV wand. The honey is going straight up and sticks to the wand. When it heats up it runs back down and yes free hits. My favorite method is to gently scrap the edges of the screen and re vape that. The loose ABV is very fine and will seem damp. It is!

(oops re-read my post and I think I thought I was in the Q thread...lol..fixed it)

Okay I am going to bring up my battery one last time. I started with a charged battery this morning and after 3, approx. 1/2 full Granadillo stems I have two lights lit up. I took my time with the three stems but it never sat doing nothing till it times out or anything. I am not sure how many times I turned it back on after it did its normal 12 min. time out. I think maybe 3 times?

 

[OF]

Okay I am going to bring up my battery one last time. I started with a charged battery this morning and after 3, approx. 1/2 full Granadillo stems I have two lights lit up. I took my time with the three stems but it never sat doing nothing till it times out or anything. I am not sure how many times I turned it back on after it did its normal 12 min. time out. I think maybe 3 times?

Draw has a very large amount to do with power usage (I measured well over twice in informal testing), what stem you use should, I believe, but unimportant.

My advice for battery testing (or any similar task) is to standardize as much as possible. I use 'no stem, open top, step 7'. Let it run the full 12 minutes just sitting there cycling, then do it again. And again. No draw or other variables.

In general, I've found 'a light a session' to be a good rule and have proposed that several times without anyone offering any other suggestions.

There should be no change here between models, at least while the batteries are fresh.

You can also time the duty cycles (break out the stopwatch and time the heating and coasting times). This will, of course, shift as the battery discharges, so you need to factor that in. It's much easier, I think, to count fully sessions and number of LEDs lost. But no matter, if you're going to take measurements you can rely on you need to take measurements you can rely on. That starts with being careful and getting repeatable results.

Good luck with it.

OF

 

[as]

I found that Using my wood stem will drain the battery faster and that the top of the unit will also get alot hotter almost to hot to hold

 

[Newcastle]

I want to say I really love this thing I just don't think its battery is up to two people that have been doing this for 40 years combined. I think that it will be great for on the go but I think I need either Citizens battery or an E-nano which I can just plug in. I think I need both but you tell the wife.

 

[as]

Just don't tell her she may not notice?

 

[Pappy]

RE: Battery life, my 2014 Solo drops about 1 light per 12 minute session on 6. My 2013 Solo drops 2 LEDs per session on 6. My 2014 has almost twice the battery life.

 

[OF]

I found that Using my wood stem will drain the battery faster and that the top of the unit will also get alot hotter almost to hot to hold

Very interesting.....it has a metal bottom, right? Conduction vape, more conduction, higher losses holding temperature.......makes sense?

Thanks for posting the observation.

I want to say I really love this thing I just don't think its battery is up to two people that have been doing this for 40 years combined. I think that it will be great for on the go but I think I need either Citizens battery or an E-nano which I can just plug in. I think I need both but you tell the wife.

Yup, for sure the battery will become a critical factor sooner or later. Nobody wants to haul around a big enough one so you can party all week on a charge (shades of the Henry rifle 'load it on Sunday, shoot all week'......). You can get about a 20% increase with custom packs (2600 rather than 2200 mAh), but more than that difference disappears as they age. That is a new factory pack will outperform 'last year's' custom one. It will always be a problem for some I think, the idea is to cover as many as possible?

The PA scheme on the prior model was, of course, to deal with this. By bypassing the battery it's cycle lifespan is not impacted with non battery use.

RE: Battery life, my 2014 Solo drops about 1 light per 12 minute session on 6. My 2013 Solo drops 2 LEDs per session on 6. My 2014 has almost twice the battery life.

Two per session might be normal, depending on what a session is. But it sounds like you might have some serious miles on the old one?

One thing sure, there is no magic. It takes just as many Watt seconds to do the session on either model using the same stem, herb and technique. Those rules don't change unless you change something. If the older pack is really delivering 50% of it's initial life, it's on it's last legs.

OF

 

[Pappy]

Two per session might be normal, depending on what a session is. But it sounds like you might have some serious miles on the old one?

One thing sure, there is no magic. It takes just as many Watt seconds to do the session on either model using the same stem, herb and technique. Those rules don't change unless you change something. If the older pack is really delivering 50% of it's initial life, it's on it's last legs.

OF

My first Solo sat on the shelf from September 2013 until Feb 2014 when I first began using it. Might've been used a half dozen times before that.

 

[OF]

My first Solo sat on the shelf from September 2013 until Feb 2014 when I first began using it. Might've been used a half dozen times before that.

Something else is up then. Storage fully charged (or discharged)? Heat? Deep discharges? That sort of battery life difference (2:1) between basically new copies of the two designs is something nobody else has reported.

If you're in the mood, the test I suggest (no stem, open top, step 7, cycle after cycle) on each unit might give some interesting insights....... Using that test (or similar) others have reported basically the same battery life?

OF

 

[Randylahey]

My replacement solo just arrived from Arizer, for the serial number addicts it is a M1T and seems to turn on and off faster. I just opened it so i cant say if its better or worse yet.

 

[ataxian]

Something else is up then.
OF

"OF" Something is up!

Getting ready for 420!

 

[Pappy]

Something else is up then. Storage fully charged (or discharged)? Heat? Deep discharges? That sort of battery life difference (2:1) between basically new copies of the two designs is something nobody else has reported.

If you're in the mood, the test I suggest (no stem, open top, step 7, cycle after cycle) on each unit might give some interesting insights....... Using that test (or similar) others have reported basically the same battery life?

OF

When I have the time... I believe other have reported 2 LED drops per session so I don't consider it out of the norm. My first post about the new unit several pages back theorized it seems more powerful, that includes battery life.

What's the consensus, how many LEDs does a Solo normally drop per session? List your model year and heat level. Maybe we can pin it down.

 

[Scrappy34]

my solo is my little buddy, I haven't combusted in about a month

one bowl leaves me feeling sky high

 

[Belgianvapor]

"OF" Something is up!

Getting ready for 420!

that looks like the remains of a muppet monster