Arizer Solo

[Hippie Dickie]

Not sure about Lifpo chemistry. I know you can hammer them a bit more but think again they have low cycle ratings.?? Not sure.

LiFePO4 has many, many more cycles than all the other LiPo/Liion. i have several pairs of cells that have been recharged at least 1000 times and the run time (90 minutes) and final charge voltage (3.63v) is always the same.

 

[OF]

@OF, lighten up please. I was just saying I have a unit with the same initial characters in the series number or whatever you want to call it. I don't know if the numbers are sequential and represent a "model". In response to what people said......
The label on the bottom clearly hints at the design's intent.

Thanks for the advice. I see this forum as a useful information resource for our fellows if we can keep the information accurate. Simply repeating misinformation others may have put out doesn't feed that bulldog. You, like far too many IMO, called it a "model" based on that number. That number is not a model number. Guys that took your advice as accurate would buy something other than what they wanted. That might not be important to you, but it's very important to me. Feel free to post misinformation as I intend to present what I consider correct information (information folks can count on) in response.......and will continue, whenever possible, to back that up as best I can. In this case I cite the maker of the product who's opinion of what the 'model numbers' mean is I think more direct than either of ours?

I'm sorry, I must decline your request.

As to the label, as I've said, it confirms I believe what I said? It has noting to do with "clearly hints at the design's intent" but accurately describes the former design. They sold a separate supply (8.5 Volts, 5 Amps) for this other (no longer available) function. Others made their versions of them as well. I made a series of prototypes, Pipes made and marketed his AIO based on that design, Tim briefly made one as well. I believe they now charge at something over 9 Volts (not 'heat' in PA mode as before)?

You'll have to trust me on this I guess (or investigate it yourself), that label predates the latest version. It is not a clue to the new design, it's a hold over from the past. I would not try to read anything more into it.

OF

 

[ataxian]

So much cool glass too!

I ordered the only Gong adapter I could find, a "PVHEGonG Female 18MM Shorty Turbo" as an adapter to a bubbler. I see it's a shorter chambered stem, and I read that these have somehow a looser draw, but don't know anything more about them. What can you tell me?

Anyplace to find generic adapters, like an equivalent of the famous stealth straw adapter

Is there any indication there has been a change in the temp settings from the published :

• Level 1-50°C / 122°F (15 sec)
• Level 2-185°C / 365°F (1 min)
• Level 3-190°C / 374°F (1 min 10)
• Level 4-195°C / 383°F (1 min 30 sec)
• Level 5-200°C / 393°F (1 min 50 sec)
• Level 6-205°C / 401°F (2 min 10 sec)
• Level 7-210°C / 410°F (2 min 30 sec)

For my daytime vape Level 2 or 3 is very good.
Thanks

It's a process!

 

[Caligula]

Your description leads me to believe that you're pulling too hard. I think you'll get thicker vapour with a slower draw. Just pull until it starts to feel restricted, no harder. Try microhits (small gentle puffs) and see if that helps.

Beat me to it.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

My number 4 light has flickered ever since my unit was brand new. It only seems to do it when the unit is "thinking", mostly right before the heat light comes on. It is only the 4. None of the others do this. Does anyone else see the same thing on their unit(s)? Not that I mind. It is just a quirk and doesn't hurt anything so I'd never make a warranty claim for such a silly thing. Just curious if this is normal?

 

[padorni]

My number 4 light has flickered ever since my unit was brand new. It only seems to do it when the unit is "thinking", mostly right before the heat light comes on. It is only the 4. None of the others do this. Does anyone else see the same thing on their unit(s)? Not that I mind. It is just a quirk and doesn't hurt anything so I'd never make a warranty claim for such a silly thing. Just curious if this is normal?

Mine does the same thing!

 

[hd_rider]

My number 4 light has flickered ever since my unit was brand new. It only seems to do it when the unit is "thinking", mostly right before the heat light comes on. It is only the 4. None of the others do this. Does anyone else see the same thing on their unit(s)? Not that I mind. It is just a quirk and doesn't hurt anything so I'd never make a warranty claim for such a silly thing. Just curious if this is normal?

I have a M1A4 solo that I bought mid last year. With mine, it's the number 5 light that flickers, but it flickers any time it's being powered. In other words, when I first turn the Solo on and I get the battery level display (LEDs 1 thru 7 depending on current charge), the 5 light will flicker. If I'm using the Solo with the heater set to level 5 or above, the 5 LED will flicker.

It certainly doesn't affect the operation of the device, but it does bug me as a quality control issue.

 

[johnnyuber]

First Post ... I am 2 hours from getting my solo ... cant stop pacing around looking for the delivery truck.
I wanted to thank all of the forum members in the first 100 pages and the last 100 pages for helping me make my decision.

I was going to go FF but after reading this thread and all of the options available.... the solo seems to fit my needs.

I am prepared:
ISO - Check
Herb Ground up and ready to rock - Check

Now all I need is delivery

CANT WAIT TO VAPE FOR THE FIRST TIME AFTER BONG RIPS FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS!

EDIT - No delivery today ;(
USPS sucks soooooo bad .... ordered 2 day express on Tuesday they got it Wednesday and It will be delivered on Saturday. Let this be a lesson people... don't grind all of your herb up until you have a vape in hand... or you might be smoking herb through a harsh pipe to get you through the frustration of dealing with lame government services like this loser.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I have a M1A4 solo that I bought mid last year. With mine, it's the number 5 light that flickers, but it flickers any time it's being powered. In other words, when I first turn the Solo on and I get the battery level display (LEDs 1 thru 7 depending on current charge), the 5 light will flicker. If I'm using the Solo with the heater set to level 5 or above, the 5 LED will flicker.

It certainly doesn't affect the operation of the device, but it does bug me as a quality control issue.

Most likely it is inherent to the design and not a quality control issue. It seems like the lights only flicker when either the heater or the thermostat is actively working. The light flickers due to power fluctuation caused by the higher demand components. A design change at the circuit level could explain this phenomenon moving from the 5 on earlier units to the 4 on later units. My guess is that they all exhibit this in some way and >95% of users would never notice such a thing.

 

[spoutti]

@fernand I wasnt confortable with domed screens at 1st. I was even in the process of ordering custum smaller bowls from pv to go around that. Now im waiting for 1" screens to reduce my bowl further than a "shorty". I feel domed screen are better due to less vapor friction from blocked pathway. And once "formed", its quite easy to put it back after iso cleaning. But if you plan on reclaiming that brass sponge, nothing gets lost. Its a better option if you like (or experiment and see if you like) reclaim.

Regarding temps. If those numbers were good back in may, I garantee you 2014 solos gives higher temps. My may2013 level 5 feels like level 4 on 2014 models, maybe even level 3.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Regarding flickers, I've noticed that when charging my Solo, in between steps (LED's or numbers) it'll flicker a bunch, as if saying "I'm almost at the power level and can't decide if it's this one or the one before" a bunch of times every second, then once it's charged enough the LED stays solid instead of flickering. Seems to happen through every LED as it charges, but I haven't noticed it happen during actual use.

@johnnyuber congrats and welcome to the Solo and FC family! I see you didn't get any screens? Hope your grind isn't too fine or you have some bud to plug the stem holes, small bits of plant matter can go through the holes. 1/2" screens sit flat inside the stem, mesh size is preferential. Don't forget to fully charge, and do a dry burn. I'd clean the stems with some ISO alcohol and hot water while the Solo does the burn-in

 

[Pipes]

My number 5 flickers sometimes too. I suspect a bad solder or driver issue.
Doesn't bother me much.

 

[Gray Area]

Another flickering 5 here too... Has done it since new (9 months ago).

 

[OF]

First Post ... I am 2 hours from getting my solo ... cant stop pacing around looking for the delivery truck.
I wanted to thank all of the forum members in the first 100 pages and the last 100 pages for helping me make my decision.

You're welcome, of course. Many good folks post their experiences here for just that reason.

I know this will not be a happy topic, but remember that advice you're so grateful for also includes fully charging the new battery before first use. Never an easy thing to do, more so under 'special new' conditions like yours, but IMO solid advice that will pay off down the road in more sessions per charge and more charges before the battery needs to be replaced.

So I've got two pieces of free advice for you, bite the bullet and charge it up at least until the charge light stops flashing before firing it up. Fully form the battery as recommended.

Secondly, enjoy your unit. Experiment with heat levels and technique to find what suit you best. You probably don't need near the encouragement for this one as the other?

Best wishes for a long and satisfactory relationship with your new best friend.

Most likely it is inherent to the design and not a quality control issue.

I agree completely. This smacks of an unimportant timing detail in running the display to me. I get it it can be annoying but IMO in no way reflects on the quality of the individual unit involved or the Solo in general. It's made to make vapor on demand in a controlled manner, not run pretty little lights flawlessly.

Yes, mine too blink at times. All of them I think. I also recall some 'funny stuff' with the first flash out on the heat cycle? Also not a QC issue either. Or a QA one (for those who appreciate the difference). My advice is to enjoy the pretty lights along with the rest of the Solo and not stress over it?

OF

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Regarding flickers, I've noticed that when charging my Solo, in between steps (LED's or numbers) it'll flicker a bunch, as if saying "I'm almost at the power level and can't decide if it's this one or the one before" a bunch of times every second, then once it's charged enough the LED stays solid instead of flickering. Seems to happen through every LED as it charges, but I haven't noticed it happen during actual use.

I have seen that too, but that is different... That is the higher level indicator light actually strobing on/off as it tries to "decide" as you put it. What I'm describing is a fluctuation in brightness- it stays on the enitre time. Kind of like a flickering fluorescent light, only this doesn't give me headaches.

I agree completely. This smacks of an unimportant timing detail in running the display to me. I get it it can be annoying but IMO in no way reflects on the quality of the individual unit involved or the Solo in general. It's made to make vapor on demand in a controlled manner, not run pretty little lights flawlessly.

Yes, mine too blink at times. All of them I think. I also recall some 'funny stuff' with the first flash out on the heat cycle? Also not a QC issue either. Or a QA one (for those who appreciate the difference). My advice is to enjoy the pretty lights along with the rest of the Solo and not stress over it?

OF

Agreed, Certainly not stressing about it over here. Merely a curiosity. If anything, confirming that there are many other units that do the same thing gives me peace of mind.

Snoop's Dream on the left, Blue Dream on the right. The Snoop looks better but the Blue Dream is much, much stronger and also very frosty.

SOLO TIME

 

[OF]

Yes, mine too blink at times. All of them I think. I also recall some 'funny stuff' with the first flash out on the heat cycle? Also not a QC issue either. Or a QA one (for those who appreciate the difference). My advice is to enjoy the pretty lights along with the rest of the Solo and not stress over it?

OF

First off, sorry for not being more clear above, you could read that as 'all the lights on my Solo...'. Rather, I've had four (two got adopted/never returned), they all had flickering, most of it in common I think.

Which brings us to the specific 'funny stuff' above. As so often happens, memory for unimportant details is kind of an approximate kinda thing. It's not the first flash out, but the last. I'll be on say step 4 (my favorite), heater off, ready for the hit. Hit it, heat LEDs drop and the "workin' on it, boss" flashes and it heats back up. The step 4 LED comes on, it heats a bit more and the flashing stops. Just on that last flash (which I'm often watching for.....) the 4 LED blinks.

To me, the reason for this rests in understanding how the unit works. It's a multiplexed display, lights don't turn on and off like you think, they constantly flicker at your and your eyes and brain conspire to keep it from you. Wave the running unit around in the dark and see. Trails of dots, not lines.

There's only one processor, it has to do it all. Run the heater, look for the buttons to be pressed, check for charger, read the heat, change any LEDs that need changing since last time, turn the heater on (or off) as required, run the display, control the charging and so on. Everything has to happen in more or less real time. If something extra needs to happen (say turn a light on or off, make a beep, some fool thing that only happens once in a while) that's going to change timing (the processor can only do one thing at a time, like interrupting a busy mother new demands slow other stuff, if only for a bit. I strongly suspect that's the sort of thing behind these artifacts?

Regarding flickers, I've noticed that when charging my Solo, in between steps (LED's or numbers) it'll flicker a bunch, as if saying "I'm almost at the power level and can't decide if it's this one or the one before" a bunch of times every second, then once it's charged enough the LED stays solid instead of flickering. Seems to happen through every LED as it charges, but I haven't noticed it happen during actual use.

I have seen that too, but that is different... That is the higher level indicator light actually strobing on/off as it tries to "decide" as you put it. What I'm describing is a fluctuation in brightness- it stays on the enitre time. Kind of like a flickering fluorescent light, only this doesn't give me headaches.

Agreed, Certainly not stressing about it over here. Merely a curiosity. If anything, confirming that there are many other units that do the same thing gives me peace of mind.

Excellent observation. And it seems to me to do it more sometimes than others, perhaps I'm not watching as closely?

The reason for that is exactly as you suggest. In charging, that voltage is read very often and the display adjusted to follow. I suspect to control charging (shut it down when the battery is fully charged). I was able to take advantage of this to 'crack' the calibration by pulling the battery and replacing it with a suitable resistor for the charge circuit to try to charge. I then used a bench supply to add more current (bringing the voltage up). In broad terms the LEDs on the 3 I tested (at a point when I had 3, only 2 now) were .1 Volt apart with the top one lighting around 8.0 or 8.1. The top step is about .2 wide (or a little more), charging stops around 8.3, give or take.

I agree, there's hopefully peace of mind to know that what you see is a common thing. Misery, company and all that.

'cides which, Solos were built (and hopefully purchased) for enjoying, not fussing over. It's a solid tool, and a mighty weapon in the holy war for right and truth........

Time to grab a different strain and take Mister Solo back to the garden I think.

Spring is coming, bees are in the lime bush and the first few roses are out. Regards to all, and best wishes for a pleasant weekend.

OF

 

[ataxian]

First off, sorry for not being more clear above, you could read that as 'all the lights on my Solo...'. Rather, I've had four (two got adopted/never returned), they all had flickering, most of it in common I think.

Which brings us to the specific 'funny stuff' above. As so often happens, memory for unimportant details is kind of an approximate kinda thing. It's not the first flash out, but the last. I'll be on say step 4 (my favorite), heater off, ready for the hit. Hit it, heat LEDs drop and the "workin' on it, boss" flashes and it heats back up. The step 4 LED comes on, it heats a bit more and the flashing stops. Just on that last flash (which I'm often watching for.....) the 4 LED blinks.

To me, the reason for this rests in understanding how the unit works. It's a multiplexed display, lights don't turn on and off like you think, they constantly flicker at your and your eyes and brain conspire to keep it from you. Wave the running unit around in the dark and see. Trails of dots, not lines.

There's only one processor, it has to do it all. Run the heater, look for the buttons to be pressed, check for charger, read the heat, change any LEDs that need changing since last time, turn the heater on (or off) as required, run the display, control the charging and so on. Everything has to happen in more or less real time. If something extra needs to happen (say turn a light on or off, make a beep, some fool thing that only happens once in a while) that's going to change timing (the processor can only do one thing at a time, like interrupting a busy mother new demands slow other stuff, if only for a bit. I strongly suspect that's the sort of thing behind these artifacts?






Excellent observation. And it seems to me to do it more sometimes than others, perhaps I'm not watching as closely?

The reason for that is exactly as you suggest. In charging, that voltage is read very often and the display adjusted to follow. I suspect to control charging (shut it down when the battery is fully charged). I was able to take advantage of this to 'crack' the calibration by pulling the battery and replacing it with a suitable resistor for the charge circuit to try to charge. I then used a bench supply to add more current (bringing the voltage up). In broad terms the LEDs on the 3 I tested (at a point when I had 3, only 2 now) were .1 Volt apart with the top one lighting around 8.0 or 8.1. The top step is about .2 wide (or a little more), charging stops around 8.3, give or take.

I agree, there's hopefully peace of mind to know that what you see is a common thing. Misery, company and all that.

'cides which, Solos were built (and hopefully purchased) for enjoying, not fussing over. It's a solid tool, and a mighty weapon in the holy war for right and truth........

Time to grab a different strain and take Mister Solo back to the garden I think.

Spring is coming, bees are in the lime bush and the first few roses are out. Regards to all, and best wishes for a pleasant weekend.

OF

As always well written!

Level 4 with the strains I have wet or dry!

I have other vaporizer however I think I use the SOLO the mostly because their so simple!

Snoop's Dream on the left, Blue Dream on the right. The Snoop looks better but the Blue Dream is much, much stronger and also very frosty.

SOLO TIME

Very Top Shelf!
Either way both are quality!

 

[OF]

I have other vaporizer however I think I use the SOLO the mosty because their so simple!

Exactly so! I might start out otherwise, but Solo always seems to make me simple.......which keeps me coming back.

It's as easy to use or refined as most of my moods take me for sure. Knowing I can crank it up, break out the bubbler and so on if I want is cool. Even when I don't do it. It just does what you want/expect with no surprises. Time after time after time. Hard to ask for more, really.

OF

 

[ataxian]

Exactly so! I might start out otherwise, but Solo always seems to make me simple.......which keeps me coming back.

It's as easy to use or refined as most of my moods take me for sure. Knowing I can crank it up, break out the bubbler and so on if I want is cool. Even when I don't do it. It just does what you want/expect with no surprises. Time after time after time. Hard to ask for more, really.

OF

I was reading your responds and I guess I should have been honest in my statement!

I'm simple and the SOLO is simple!

Perfect for me!
Do I blame it on the JC OG?

 

[Fozzie Bear]

To me, the reason for this rests in understanding how the unit works. It's a multiplexed display, lights don't turn on and off like you think, they constantly flicker at your and your eyes and brain conspire to keep it from you. Wave the running unit around in the dark and see. Trails of dots, not lines.

The reason for that is exactly as you suggest. In charging, that voltage is read very often and the display adjusted to follow. I suspect to control charging (shut it down when the battery is fully charged). I was able to take advantage of this to 'crack' the calibration by pulling the battery and replacing it with a suitable resistor for the charge circuit to try to charge. I then used a bench supply to add more current (bringing the voltage up). In broad terms the LEDs on the 3 I tested (at a point when I had 3, only 2 now) were .1 Volt apart with the top one lighting around 8.0 or 8.1. The top step is about .2 wide (or a little more), charging stops around 8.3, give or take.

OF

Ok, I follow completely... I am witnessing a timing issue. Ideally the LEDs would be running at a frequency that gives the illusion that they are always on (similar to video frame rates and the illusion of motion). Something in the main chip, a logic center I won't pretend to understand, goes out of sync in regards to the on/off signal being sent to the LED. It still is getting a rapid on/off signal, but not at a frequency that completes the illusion. This is observed as a flicker.

I had not processed that the LEDs themselves are digitally powered, so I hadn't thought of it this way. LEDs never flicker in this fashion in the analog circuits I am used to. Thanks for your insight, and have a great weekend!

 

[poonman]

I still say , we should refer it as VIN ( Vaporizer Identification Number ) . We have to call it something ...

We can disagree all we want about the significance of the VIN .
Whether it's for sequential or the latest released .
But be sure , Arizer applies an ID #on every unit manufactured
and shipped out for a reason .

It's ill advised biz. practices to manufacture products , and Not keep account/inventory of what is made and sold .

I work in the Pharmaceutical Industry , where we have DIN .
Drug Identification Number on every bottle/pkg/vial/blister
we sell . That's in case , we have a recall on a certain medicine .
We can trace it back to the specific batch/time it was made .

I bring this up , because sometimes , I sense some bad vibes over this one specific topic . When there really shouldn't be ...
People do ask about the alpha-numerics located at the bottom .
And I do believe it's an ID # of sort .

So VIN for the Win .
My Solo's VIN is an M107 , and never gave me any problems
right from the get go . Still rocking after 2 1/2 years .
An M107 , that's the one you should be looking for , if you can still find one ...

Happy Vaping Y'all

 

[ataxian]

I still say , we should refer it as VIN ( Vaporizer Identification Number ) . We have to call it something ...

We can disagree all we want about the significance of the VIN .
Whether it's for sequential or the latest released .
But be sure , Arizer applies an ID #on every unit manufactured
and shipped out for a reason .

It's ill advised biz. practices to manufacture products , and Not keep account/inventory of what is made and sold .

I work in the Pharmaceutical Industry , where we have DIN .
Drug Identification Number on every bottle/pkg/vial/blister
we sell . That's in case , we have a recall on a certain medicine .
We can trace it back to the specific batch/time it was made .

I bring this up , because sometimes , I sense some bad vibes over this one specific topic . When there really shouldn't be ...
People do ask about the alpha-numerics located at the bottom .
And I do believe it's an ID # of sort .

So VIN for the Win .
My Solo's VIN is an M107 , and never gave me any problems
right from the get go . Still rocking after 2 1/2 years .
An M107 , that's the one you should be looking for , if you can still find one ...

Happy Vaping Y'all

I painted my Silver M107 other wise this is the most amazing sturdy unit after 2 1/2 years it's still strong as new! But hey so are my other ones?

 

[fogbank]

i havent followed the firefly thread very close, but how could a mostly SS air path taste better than a mostly glass air path?

IMO it doesn't.

Opinions are what they are, but I prefer the taste experience from the Solo. I seem to get cooler vapor from the Solo, which allows me to appreciate the flavor better.

That being said it is a VERY close call - one that I am willing to continue to test with both great vapes!

 

[Torontoke]

Hey guys I gave my defective solo and extreme q parcel to Canada post on Saturday. It was delivered and signed for on Tuesday. I haven't heard from arizer after it was delivered. It's been 3 business days now and when I sent them the payment for the return shipping they said once we recieve the parcel we will repair or replace your units within 2 days and then email me the Canada post tracking number. I'm getting kind of concerned now. Any one experienced something like this ?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

No, but maybe the day they receive it, it doesn't instantly get looked at? I would assume they inspect them as they arrive, so yours may be in line, hence why they don't look at it same-day. So today may be the third business day. Checked spam folders right?