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OF
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Please correct this by including the rest of the post where I said I was quoting PV.....which still says 'made in Canada'.
http://www.planetvape.ca/vaporizers/arizer/
Their statement, not mine? As I clearly said then I was repeating what I'd 'read somewhere'?
Thanks.
OF
Vapenayshyall
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Truth Seeker
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How well does the solo 2 taste in native mode? Dry no water
John Coaltrain
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This has not been my experience. I've owned 6 Arizer vaporizers and not one of their boxes has said anything about where they are manufactured. This includes the three boxes for the Solo II, Air II, and ArGo which I am looking at as I type this.
The only mention of geographical locations are on the bottom side of the box and on the back page of the Owner's Manual. On the bottom side of the box it says:
Designed in Canada
and:
Arizer, the Arizer logos, and Solo II are trademarks or registered trademarks of Arizer in Canada, USA, Europe, Asia and other jurisdictions
and:
Arizer. 55 Northfield Drive East, Unit 391 Waterloo, ON, N2K 3T6
On the back page of the Owner's Manual it says:
©2017 Arizer, Waterloo, ON Canada. All rights reserved. Patents Pending. Designed in Canada, parts sourced worldwide.
Arizer, the arizer logos, and Solo II are trademarks or registered trademarks of Arizer in Canada, USA, Europe, Asia and other jurisdictions
There is no other mention of any other place anywhere – neither on the other 5 sides of the box, nor on the other pages of the Owner's Manual.Arizer, the arizer logos, and Solo II are trademarks or registered trademarks of Arizer in Canada, USA, Europe, Asia and other jurisdictions
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torkwench13
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I don't know about my EQ as I've had it for many years, but on the bottom of my ArGo box it states, "Designed in Canada. Made in China. 2018 Arizer" Don't know what the owners manual says cause I put it in a safe place and haven't seen it for a while! I bought my ArGo in July 2019 Hope this helps!
OF
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Please show me where I 'insisted' any such thing. If you can. I said some said, then produced an example of that from a well respected member and supporter of this Forum. In fact, they still do?
I'll gladly apologize if you can point to the (complete) post where I stated more than that? Otherwise, please 'don't put words in my mouth'. TIA
OF
Vapenayshyall
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I’m confused. I was just quoting what you typed out I think. Part of the quote was “some insist ...”. Did I misquote you by accident? I do remember having to fiddle with the brackets of a quote recently. I was trying to say that you observed that some people insist they are made in China. I just wanted to say most of the newer Arizer products are now honestly saying where they are made (China). People allOver the Internet still say they are made in Canada including alot of retailers.
That’s strange. I have an Argo and solo II and they both say made in China 2018. Maybe Arizer update the boxes in 2018? I also have an OG Air and that had the old “ assembled in Canada with ...” statement.
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Djsleepy
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Wow! Big thanks to @I'm Ron Burgundy? For the info on a great bubbler for solo 2......smooth big hits......for those that missed....
https://m.dhgate.com/product/8-inchestwo-functions-bubbler-glass-water/233670163.html
Took about three weeks to get but worth it......
https://m.dhgate.com/product/8-inchestwo-functions-bubbler-glass-water/233670163.html
Took about three weeks to get but worth it......
No maybe about it, that's what they did on the 2018© vs the 2017© on the 2nd Generation units (ArGo, Solo2 & Air2).
This hasn't changed. It's not "now being advertised" it's always been that way with the Solo2. The airpath is isolated but not sealed. Think of it like a french drain but instead of water, think air. Air comes in behind the heater on the top of the unit on the backside, you can see the air vent which looks literally like an "*" . Under normal use, air comes in thru there and then into the heater.
The sealed part comes into play only if you plug the air vent and blow into the unit. Air then moves thru the electronics and out the buttons and charging port as this portion isn't sealed like the ArGo/Air2 are. That's not how the airflow is designed, just like a french drain, if you stick a firehose into your basement and turn it on, the water will move thru more than just the french drain.
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uncanni
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I'm completely devoted to the Arizer Solo II. This is an outstanding machine that I find to be far superior to other vapes that cost significantly more money. I'm most deeply impressed by the cool, smooth vapor that comes out of the Solo II. I also really like being able to fine tune the temperature. I purchased the bent stem and it produces cool and potent vapor every time. In comparison, the Pax 3 gets hot quite fast, and the flavor of the herb is incomparably superior in the Solo II.
Some of the other portable vapes out there at the high end of the price line require a significant amount of time to take apart, clean and reassemble everything. They also include tiny parts that are easily broken or lost. A huge plus for the Solo II is the ease of cleaning it: the only part that needs cleaning is the stem, and nothing else needs disassembling. So no soaking but one part in alcohol. I've owned a Crafty by Storz and Bickel which was a complete pain to disassemble, clean and reassemble: for that reason I quickly lost interest in it. The O rings were the worst part of it: easy to lose or break, expensive to replace. It took a long time to heat up, and I just wasn't impressed with the Crafty.
I'm also disillusioned with the Ghost MV1. Here is my list of cons:
· It's quite a procedure to clean it and the crucibles and reassemble everything.
· It gets hot fast and has to be turned off.
· Another problem I've had with the MV1 is battery life, which hasn't been anywhere near what Ghost claims--one year per battery. I was alternating 2 batteries for less than a year and they both lost power. It's $60 to replace a battery. This really soured me.
· I had to return my machine to Ghost because the haptics weren't working. They quickly replaced it, but this wasn't the only problem. The crucible door is not easy to open and close; the MV1 can definitely over-heat very quickly. It has quite a learning curve for various aspects of use (like how to pack crucibles, how to draw, how to put parts together correctly), so it's not user-friendly to anyone but the expert.
· One final thing I don't care for with the MV1: you have to take long, sustained draws on it for around 15 seconds to have it work properly; in other words, you can't "sip" or take small hits on the MV1. The MV1 always makes me cough.
Now on to the Pax 3: a great little machine, but it gets hot pretty fast and the flavor of the vape is nowhere near as clean as with the Solo II. The Pax 3 needs to be kept clean and while it's not the heavy procedure of an MV1, you have to remove parts and stick an alcohol-soaked pipe cleaner through the air path. A real plus for me with the Pax 3 is the fact that I can put a piece of bud into the oven and it vapes perfectly. If I had my way, I'd never grind bud again.
I have owned all the vapes I mentioned above and I have to say that the Solo II is definitely the best and the least expensive of the four:
Storz & Bickels Crafty: $195.00; wear & tear set: $30; o rings: $5 per pack, but you only get 2 of the smallest o rings in the pack, so you need to buy multiple packs.
Ghost MV1: $199. Indispensible parts: Quick Charger: $60; spare battery: $60; crucible dispenser (you'll want 2): $60; Ghost takes the prize for having you shell out lots of money.
Pax 3 complete kit: $249; an extra oven lid or a mouth piece are $13 each, and the USB charger is $30, which seems outrageous to me, but then the price is incredibly inflated on all the spare parts for all the vapes.
Arizer Solo II: on sale for $189 (down from $249) as I write; bent mouth piece $10.
Some of the other portable vapes out there at the high end of the price line require a significant amount of time to take apart, clean and reassemble everything. They also include tiny parts that are easily broken or lost. A huge plus for the Solo II is the ease of cleaning it: the only part that needs cleaning is the stem, and nothing else needs disassembling. So no soaking but one part in alcohol. I've owned a Crafty by Storz and Bickel which was a complete pain to disassemble, clean and reassemble: for that reason I quickly lost interest in it. The O rings were the worst part of it: easy to lose or break, expensive to replace. It took a long time to heat up, and I just wasn't impressed with the Crafty.
I'm also disillusioned with the Ghost MV1. Here is my list of cons:
· It's quite a procedure to clean it and the crucibles and reassemble everything.
· It gets hot fast and has to be turned off.
· Another problem I've had with the MV1 is battery life, which hasn't been anywhere near what Ghost claims--one year per battery. I was alternating 2 batteries for less than a year and they both lost power. It's $60 to replace a battery. This really soured me.
· I had to return my machine to Ghost because the haptics weren't working. They quickly replaced it, but this wasn't the only problem. The crucible door is not easy to open and close; the MV1 can definitely over-heat very quickly. It has quite a learning curve for various aspects of use (like how to pack crucibles, how to draw, how to put parts together correctly), so it's not user-friendly to anyone but the expert.
· One final thing I don't care for with the MV1: you have to take long, sustained draws on it for around 15 seconds to have it work properly; in other words, you can't "sip" or take small hits on the MV1. The MV1 always makes me cough.
Now on to the Pax 3: a great little machine, but it gets hot pretty fast and the flavor of the vape is nowhere near as clean as with the Solo II. The Pax 3 needs to be kept clean and while it's not the heavy procedure of an MV1, you have to remove parts and stick an alcohol-soaked pipe cleaner through the air path. A real plus for me with the Pax 3 is the fact that I can put a piece of bud into the oven and it vapes perfectly. If I had my way, I'd never grind bud again.
I have owned all the vapes I mentioned above and I have to say that the Solo II is definitely the best and the least expensive of the four:
Storz & Bickels Crafty: $195.00; wear & tear set: $30; o rings: $5 per pack, but you only get 2 of the smallest o rings in the pack, so you need to buy multiple packs.
Ghost MV1: $199. Indispensible parts: Quick Charger: $60; spare battery: $60; crucible dispenser (you'll want 2): $60; Ghost takes the prize for having you shell out lots of money.
Pax 3 complete kit: $249; an extra oven lid or a mouth piece are $13 each, and the USB charger is $30, which seems outrageous to me, but then the price is incredibly inflated on all the spare parts for all the vapes.
Arizer Solo II: on sale for $189 (down from $249) as I write; bent mouth piece $10.
sickmanfraud
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Here is one for $5.99 buy a few extras https://www.amazon.com/Chem-Si-Solo...7787660&sprefix=solo+bent+stem,aps,273&sr=8-4
WildChild
Seeking My Shangri-La
I couldn't agree with you more. I don't own the MV1 or Pax 3 but have tried each of them a few times. For me, the Solo II is far superior without the headaches and material quality issues. I do own a Mighty (which I like), but I still feel the Solo II is superior due to ease of cleaning and higher maximum temperature. Each to their own, I suppose.
Enjoy your Solo II and Happy New Year.
GoldenBud
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@uncanni you're probably right, the Solo II is probably the best package overall for automatic devices (no chances to combust/easy to maintain/no technique involved)
for the price, there's no better automatic device. enjoy.
***You can buy screens/stems/WPAs from eBay if you wanna spare some money
I recommend the bent stem and buying some D020 (And WPA) for cooling the vapor abit.
for the price, there's no better automatic device. enjoy.
***You can buy screens/stems/WPAs from eBay if you wanna spare some money
I recommend the bent stem and buying some D020 (And WPA) for cooling the vapor abit.
uncanni
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I see folks talking about the Solo like it's "great for beginners," but wtf??? It's great for anyone who wants clean, smooth vapor!! The learning curve with the MV1 was never worth it; the machine is much too finicky no matter how much you've learned.
I wish I hadn't been seduced by some of the reviews I read online about the MV1. It was all the stuff they DIDN'T say that ended up being a huge disappointment. As I wrote above, that was my experience with two of the "top of the line" vapes--the Crafty (yes, below the Mighty) and the MV1.
I wish I hadn't been seduced by some of the reviews I read online about the MV1. It was all the stuff they DIDN'T say that ended up being a huge disappointment. As I wrote above, that was my experience with two of the "top of the line" vapes--the Crafty (yes, below the Mighty) and the MV1.
WildChild
Seeking My Shangri-La
I totally agree. I would NEVER buy a car (particularly a luxury one) if I had to change the oil, replace parts and completely clean it every time it was driven once or twice. I just consider the MV1 (and a couple of other 'high end' vapes that look great) extremely high maintenance. But some folks like these rituals and don't mind the extra work. Me, I just want a unit that works very well without a lot of hassle or special technique. Again, just my opinion.
And I think you are right: this vape is not just for beginners. It provides reliable medication for seasoned users as well. Without fancy apps, looking like a sci-fi prop or with a bunch of silicone and plastic parts involved.
Happy New Year!
I think Arizer's first production of the Solo II (when PuffitUp did their teardown) did not completely seal the electonrics compartment from the air intake / heater compartment. The compartments were always completely separated and air has never crossed the circuit board in the Solo2, and not long after it was released a seal was added to fully isolate the two compartments. I saw a picture of it somewhere but I can't find it and I don't want to take apart my Solo2. Anyone have a newer Solo2 they're willing to take apart to confirm this?
I couldn't agree more!
Looking at their most recent catalog, the Solo2 doesn't mention an isolated airpath like the ArGo & Air2 are described in the features of the sell sheet. Also, since their last catalog, Arizer has added ISO 9001:2015 Certification to the others listed on the ©2018 packages: RoHS C€ FCc now including all of them on the sell sheets.
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Is there any chance you can ask them to confirm the Solo II Isolated Airpath for us? It says so on their website...
OF
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There's a lot of interesting 'isolated air path' discussion going on. While I understand this is very important to some, and there's no doubt a sales advantage to claiming it as a feature, I was wondering if anyone can give me a reason why it should be a concern? What, specifically, is the hazard?
I'm sitting here with a computer more or less in front of me with a fan blowing heated air that passes over a lot more circuitry (and the fraction of the air that might pass over the PCB in a Solo is cold). And the TV has huge vents spewing the same sort of air into the room I spend a lot of time in.
I've heard no documented health concerns from such sources, has anyone? What is it we're afraid of?
Anyone know what the problem is? Why should we fear vapes and not computers and other equipment? More importantly can give a reference.
TIA
OF
I'm sitting here with a computer more or less in front of me with a fan blowing heated air that passes over a lot more circuitry (and the fraction of the air that might pass over the PCB in a Solo is cold). And the TV has huge vents spewing the same sort of air into the room I spend a lot of time in.
I've heard no documented health concerns from such sources, has anyone? What is it we're afraid of?
Anyone know what the problem is? Why should we fear vapes and not computers and other equipment? More importantly can give a reference.
TIA
OF
Andreaerdna
If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
i for one dislike when airpath touches electronics because also vapor can touch electronics then
Solo was my first vape and once it died on me: auto shut off before reaching temp and disco dance led light for a couple of hours/day.. I opened it up and took a look to the mother board inside (looking for a mark of failure). I rather saw a lot of brown reclaim all over the board. I cleaned with iso 3 times and gave it a try: it went back on service for some times before going bananas forever (now iso trick is useless)
if electronics are sealed they are more reliable IMO, but also if something goes shorts on the board and burn out while in use i would be breathing nasty fumes
it isn’t a deal breaker to me and tbh i am unsure what solo2 i have
wish you happy new year @OF and all FC family and most loving wishes to our parents/care givers @Stu and @pakalolo
Happy high and drunk party