Any vapes in 2019 with all glass isolated air and vape path
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IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
I have had a vriptech, there is still a SS screen, and i believe the air still touches the ceramic heater.
True, i have one of these too. Great vape for monster tokes. Still not all glass... But yes another "pure" option.
habitat-fc
Well-Known Member
They have glass screens now, and I don't think the air does touch the heater, the whole idea of the Vriptech is clean heat from the all glass heating surface. From the website "VCB4.2 bowls come with one custom fitted glass screen for all glass path, purity and polarity!" They also write "Our heater has an IC or integrated circuit-type element that is encapsulated in alumina ceramic which is then covered with our proprietary glass cover so that the actual heat exchange heating the convective stream with which you extract vapor and inhale is 100% glass for NEUTRAL POLARITY HEAT! This is the VRIP DIFFERENCE!"
So I think it is an all glass heater and vapor path these days.
nsfnotthrowingaway
Member
Nice. My Fury 2 delivery date got pushed forward to today, so I should hopefully be trying it very soon! Anyone know if I need to fully charge the battery before first use, and I think I heard I should clean after every use, or is it every bowl?
IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
I stand corrected.
Funny now i sortof want to buy a new VripTech. The vapor quality has always been very top notch, and it is one of the few that i let get away that i actually miss. Not the easiest to use, but again fantastic vapor quality.
Vaporware
Well-Known Member
I can’t answer those questions for sure, but I will say that you should clean it before you ever use it. I’d look in the Fury 2 thread to see what people say about it, but running one or more burnoff cycles before you put anything in it would probably be a good idea too.
If you’re not sure about the battery, I think the safe bet is to charge it first, and in general frequent cleaning is often more about what the user likes than what is really required. Clogged screens are probably the most common things to force cleaning.
It is easier to keep things in good shape if you clean them often though.
nsfnotthrowingaway
Member
Thanks for the info.
That vriptech one looks like what I might upgrade to once I have some money again
That vriptech one looks like what I might upgrade to once I have some money again
How did you go from wanting something with uncompromising health standards and end up with a cheap entry level Chinese vape?
Are we considering this a clean heating element now?
I've never used a Fury 2 so maybe I'm off base, and if so, I apologize, but the unit doesn't look like an isolated airpath to me, it looks like you can blow in the USB port and it will funnel right into the heating chamber.
Are we considering this a clean heating element now?
I've never used a Fury 2 so maybe I'm off base, and if so, I apologize, but the unit doesn't look like an isolated airpath to me, it looks like you can blow in the USB port and it will funnel right into the heating chamber.
Jill NYC
Portable Hoarder
Definitely charge it fully before using for first time. And clean the oven and mouthpiece first. Then do a couple of burn offs before first use. If you need more details, as someone else mentioned, check out the Fury thread.
@invertedisdead - you are incorrect. It is a completely isolated air path. @PuffItUp did a tear down last year:
https://blog.puffitup.com/2018/01/fury-2-teardown-new-year-new-vape-destruction/
I'm familiar with their tear-down, I even referenced their photos in my post!
Maybe the air path is more isolated than I think. Like I said, I've never used one - the tear down looks like there are a few potential areas for air to leak through to me, but if that's not true I do certainly apologize.
Regardless, the whole vape seems pretty far off from the all glass purity the OP originally inquired about. Those types of vapes do exist, this is not one of them.
Ironically, the "cleanest" and "purest" vaporizers I've seen tend to be DIY designs.
C No Ego
Well-Known Member
assuming it is isolated as stated the herb goes in a glass piece that then seats into the fury2 herb chamber. the herb is only touching glass and all vapor through glass at that point ETC.... at least how I use the fury vape it is all glass to vapor trail then mouth... nothing in between
YaMon
Vaping since 2010
What about the air between the outside of the vape and the top of the heater?
C No Ego
Well-Known Member
heater is separate of the airway , an isolated airway. as far as I know fresh air comes in through the holes in the bottom and enters the isolated air way and gets heated as it goes through there and then enters the herb chamber to vaporize the goodies within
LabPong
Well-Known Member
For sure......I hope the OP likes Chinese factory farts with the F2...I know I did not like them after 5+ burn offs.... put it back in the box and sold it.........NEXT.
OP...best thing for you to do if you want clean not harsh and good tasting healthy vapor......do not listen to what you read from manufactures. Listen to what well experienced user's here say when they compare one vape to another.
You are miles away from where you intended to be.....but at leaset you will have a back up emergency vape now.
audiodelic
... Boom Shiva !
The vriptech heat wand is great on taste but its fragile firstly, needs to be kept in a cup for that radiating heat for lower temperature hits to be substantial, the vapour is less in quantity owing to the heater which is not as heavy duty.
All said and done, with all its limitations i still think its the best tasting vaporizer out there and was way ahead of its time.
All said and done, with all its limitations i still think its the best tasting vaporizer out there and was way ahead of its time.
nsfnotthrowingaway
Member
Honestly, I'm interested in buying the cleanest and purest vape. I don't really want to make a whole hobby and learn how to do it myself, and risk doing it myself wrong and blowing up my face with a battery. What's something you recommend as completely clean without my room looking like a stoner's paradise. I really don't want huge bongs filled with water, and pipes running halfway around my room, and I don't want a separate torch lighter, or some other cumbersome nonsense like it's gonna shatter if I look at it too hard, or a plastic bag to inhale from and cancel out the vape not having plastic in it.
I did listen to users here, and bought a vape they suggested (and multiple people liked the suggestion) and no one objected to until days later after it had been delivered and I was vaping out of it. What do you recommend I upgrade to? And what do you mean chinese factory farts? Do you think it might be coated with random factory chemicals? You have made me suitably paranoid, though. (EDIT: oh shit, I just remembered people recommended cleaning it out thoroughly when I first got it, and i didn't use alcohol cuz I was paranoid about the alcohol residue. I'm fucked) Now I'm questioning any slightly odd feeling. I'm out $100 which at this moment in my life is quite a bit, so I can't afford something new just yet, but I guess I should start researching now, since there are clearly not many good options.For sure......I hope the OP likes Chinese factory farts with the F2...I know I did not like them after 5+ burn offs.... put it back in the box and sold it.........NEXT.
OP...best thing for you to do if you want clean not harsh and good tasting healthy vapor......do not listen to what you read from manufactures. Listen to what well experienced user's here say when they compare one vape to another.
You are miles away from where you intended to be.....but at leaset you will have a back up emergency vape now.
Are there any downsides the e-nano or the vriptech wand?, and are the claims they have all glass vapor paths legit? Could I use rosin in either of these?
How fragile are we talking about. Also, can I just use it as a vaporizer? Every picture I see of it being used is people like hooking it up to bongs. What is the minimum I'd need to use it and safely store it between uses? Also how big is it? I would just go by photos, but I did that with the fury 2, and this way smaller than I thought it was gonna be.
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nsfnotthrowingaway
Member
@chris 71 yeah that was one of the first I looked at, but herbonauts said in their review that the airpath wasn't isolated and passed over electronics. Oddly, their 'best overall vaporizer' which has a 5 star safety rating from them has a plastic vapor path, so I guess that means if they find something unsafe, it must be really bad.
LabPong
Well-Known Member
Ok....first off understand that people have very different reasons why they like a certain vape over another. And those reasons may not be because of actual vapor quality. This is key to reading/listening to others opinions. So you need to look at a group of opinions and understand why it is as it is. Hard I know....but if you find some that have the same opinions as others whom are the type to like high quality vapor....look at what vapes they use....like my signature. I would suggest any vape in my sig to you....I would of told you to get an arizer or vapcap for your first vapes....like I did back in the summer of 2017...and I still use those 2 vapes today!
Clean every vape you get before using it......this means burn offs and some ISO and water cleaning as much as you can.
The other big issue you will have to face and get over......is convenience in a vape....almost always means you are giving up vapor quality! Some of the best vapor comes from vapes that are either desktops or have torches are not easy to use as a portable type scenario.
You might have to get a glass rig/water piece to enjoy the best vapor....or possibly use a torch...or plug into the wall.....
There is no BEST vape......only what works good for your situation and what you accept as "good vapor". It is different for most people and you need to see where you fit in with this aspect of vaping herbs.
YaMon
Vaping since 2010
Most of the hardcore members here do not share your concerns, that does not mean they are not valid. My two first choices 1) NewVape FlowerPot 2) Splinter Z w/XL8R cooling stem imho do not meet you criteria.
Your post is one of many that proceed it, new member looking for a vape and not wanting to read and sift through copious amounts of material here and elsewhere to find out what appeals to them without being unduly steered. It takes time for members to find threads and respond, even if said members are on daily. In other words, had this thread simmered longer this feedback may have come. I share your pain every time a new vape thread is posted. How long do you wait for other impressions to percolate and be posted. Who are members that have similar likes or impressions to yours and then look to what they're saying. In your case, you're not taking the time to filter the feedback, which is fine a personal choice.
It requires some find of glass piece, like a J-Hook.
Frankly, what you purchased maybe fine for what you invested in time and capital, enjoy it!
Edit: @LabPong I 100% agree!! As an example, for me it is the entire ritual; what it takes to prepare, heat up, use the vape, vapor quality, what it takes to clean and the convenience.
nsfnotthrowingaway
Member
So, my main concern is like healthy unadulterated vapor, for the sake of it being healthy. as @YaMon said most people don't share that concern to the same degree I do with materials and such. Would you say that people who go for 'good vapor' end up getting to the same goal but for different reasons? As I stated before, if this vape is inferior for 80 reasons, but the health and material aspect is 5 star, then I'm totally fine with my purchase and having this for now, until I can invest in something really awesome.
C No Ego
Well-Known Member
the vape is safe. you will breathe more harmful stuff two seconds in city air then you will ever inhale from a fury vape.
I guess I was first to recommend the vape to you @ this thread... why? ease of use, clean air path, no fussing with other devices ( phones , torches) ETC to heat it up. a few select buttons to click to manage the device = simple..
I've vaped for years from multiple vapes and am no newbie yet still prefer as small as possible, simple load and go device to medicate with hence Fury vape... If I had access to more cannabis and did not care about amounts I'd go over to a Fierce vape and be happy there as a simple larger model of fury
Jill NYC
Portable Hoarder
As @C No Ego said -it is a safe vape to use. Most of those who commented against it, never tried it nor have read the thread to see all of the ways HR has made sure to keep the air path pure.
It is a great, no fuss vape that needs minimal maintenance, minimal technique that is safe to use at a very reasonable price. (There are many bad vapes out there for sure, this is not one of them)
If you have it already, and are happy with results, then just enjoy it!
If, at some point, you want to up your game with something more powerful that will probably need more technique and maintenance, come on back and we can get you there.
Honestly you set a tone as if everything besides glass is not clean enough, but then mention a number of points that suggest you don't really want anything made of glass.
You have to be willing to make some compromises to achieve the purity you say you want.
I say enjoy your Fury 2, stick around this fantastic forum, and read what people who intrigue you are vaping with, and go from there.
LabPong
Well-Known Member
First off.....let me say thanks to the others whom have been trying to help out here.....you explained things further and more clear than I had and brought up other points to consider.
Ok....first off hope we did not scare you or make you second guess your investment. You will be fine using the Fury to get introduced to vaping flower. Do not worry about any "health" concerns here. To put it this way......using any dry herb vape is pretty much a huge improvement over combusting flower in what ever device. When you vape....there are 3 basic compounds created in what you inhale.....with combusting....you create over 100 compounds!
Now...let me just say.....vaping is complicated. It totally sucks compared to just firing up a J or bong ripper. Yup vaping sucks in comparison because you cant just quickly prepare, load, and consume easily...especially if more than 1 person is involved. For me....that is the only thing combusting has on vaping.
But in every other way vaping mops the floor compared to combusting. Not even to mention the health benefits....but the feeling and type of medicating you can get are so much better (when you have a high quality vape). I will not discuss this part further as everyone is effected differently and uses for various reasons.
You will sort of go through vaping 101 and get used to the difference and the huge difference in breathing techniques you can do...or are required. When you start to understand that part of vaping and have mastered your current vape with different ways to use it....then think about getting another one...not to replace...but to add to what you use. Sometimes most of us need more than one vape to keep up daily use without becoming immune or totally have the desire to have something else.
My advise to you is to use a wpa (water adapter) and use the fury in a small glass rig. The vapor is better than going with a direct mouth piece while the vapor path is so short from the heater to your lips.
Also....in general you can associate clean not harsh vapor with healthier vapor....but not always and the same is true for vapor that is not the best tasting.....may not be a health concern at all. You will find out what happens when you suck in hot ass vapor for long duration's for the first month or so. Enjoy!