Thank you!! That was super helpful. I looked at the site and found exactly what I was looking for. And I think that you are correct, I pretty much need everything but the oven and bowl so it might be best to just pick up a full anvil and keep this one as a spare or gift it.
Anvil by Vestratto
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delta hotel
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Does the 18mm WPA have more airflow than the 14mm WPA? I have a 14mm with the teflon adapter, but I've primarily been using it in an 18mm joint and I've been wondering if the 18mm WPA has a better airflow or is it just more metal around the male joint?
I have a new WPA that came with my Tornado and it has a larger thru hole than my OG WPA (both 14mm and I don’t know if this carries over to the 18mm WPA).
eyevape
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The restrictive element is the Anvil itself, no matter what size of hole you put underneath - unless it’s too small, which isn’t the case for either 14 or 18mm.
delta hotel
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I thought this might be the case, thank you!
WhyWhyWhy?
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Hello everyone I am impressed with the Vestratto device 
and want to purchase it. But since I always use mesh capsules (from Fenix or V3 Pro), I would like to ask if someone can measure the dimensions of a full bowl (depth and width) 
so that I can understand if I can use Vestratto with a capsule, will the capsule fit inside the device? 
and want to purchase it. But since I always use mesh capsules (from Fenix or V3 Pro), I would like to ask if someone can measure the dimensions of a full bowl (depth and width) so that I can understand if I can use Vestratto with a capsule, will the capsule fit inside the device?
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David Root
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Capsules will not work unless you cut up a bowl for the endcap.
David
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Greenleaf88
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Just get the half bowl for the anvil it ur capsule size .05Hello everyone I am impressed with the Vestratto device
WhyWhyWhy?
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Could you measure the inner diameter of the bowl? I have capsules with a diameter of 10 mm (capsules from V3 Pro are larger in diameter).
Also, please tell me, did you cut out a part of the XL bowl?
Would a smaller bowl solve my need for capsules? I only use capsules. Moreover, they are the same in both TM2 and Hyperdyn. I would also like to do the same with Vestratto.
Greenleaf88
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Y would u need a capsule? The only reason for a capsule is to lessen ur bowl size ,smaller bowl I believe even less than a capsule I’m so confused on y u absolutely need a capsule in here no need for one.
And to answer ur question no it wouldn’t help ur situation a smaller bowl for a capsule
coolbreeze
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May I ask what is the benefit you are seeking?
It probably would depending on why you use them. If it's to reduce the load size, it surely will; if it's to keep the bowls and oven clean, the Anvil really doesn't need it; if it's to pre-pack, you could do that but you'd need a way to cover the packed bowls securely.
WhyWhyWhy?
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I use capsules because it's convenient. Yes, it is convenient for me to collect 30 capsules in advance and store them ready in a vacuum container. Please, someone measure the inner diameter of the bowl.
coolbreeze
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I don't have calipers but it looks to be just about 1cm give or take a millimeter.
eyevape
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It’s 9.3 mm
WhyWhyWhy?
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Thank you so much! My smallest capsules have a diameter of 10 mm..Uh, it's a pity. Only if I reduce the inner diameter of the bowl to 10mm - If it doesn't bother you, please measure the outer diameter of the bowl. Is there a metal reserve in case of boring?
David Root
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I cut off the 1/2 bowl from its base. Kept the threads and clickers. A V30 capsules fits in the Anvil with no bowl and the cut off 1/2 bowl end.
It works very well. Complete extraction on one heat up.
David
It works very well. Complete extraction on one heat up.
David
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WhyWhyWhy?
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Does your capsule clamp tightly inside or rattle when the bottom part is twisted?
Oh, noYou’re lucky, it’s 10.3 mm
Petetbay
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I measured ID 9.42mm, OD 10.34mm, the Dynavap mesh caps fit loosely, I have the Dynavap solid steel caps somewhere and they should fit as well.
edit: I found my solid steel caps and they fit, but very loose. I tried both the DV mesh and solid steel caps with hash and mesh caps worked ok, still too loose allowing the hot air to bypass the cap. The solid steel was too loose and were useless, very little vapor. These caps not working that good and pretty useless, you need tighter fitting caps and the v3/fury2/Nano caps are too big. Cutting up a bowl to fit caps may be the way to go, but the Anvil much like the DVs not really designed to work with caps.
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WhyWhyWhy?
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Thank you for your research! I also have Dynavap mesh capsules, and I didn't know the size of the Anvil bowl yet, but I was sure they would fit in the bowl. But I don't want to use them, because it's unacceptable for a minimalist to serve capsules of different sizes.
Now I use capsules from Fenix and V3 Pro in both TM2 (having made a custom cooler) and Hyperdyn. Before I found out about the existence of Hyperdyn, I was forced to use 2 different capsule sizes, because only small capsules will fit into the standard Dynavap. In general, the appearance of hyperdyn made it possible to abandon small mesh capsules, because it also contains capsules from Fenix and V3 Pro!By the way, Hyperdyn works just fine with capsules! Also, I noticed that on my micro-quantities of the loaded material, Hyperdyn hits harder than TM 2, which is not surprising, because for the first seconds in TM2, unheated air can idle through the flower, evaporating, but not activating thc. In Hyperdyn, I start to draw air only after a click, i.e. the flower is fully warmed up and there is no idle movement of air through the flower.
All these thoughts motivated me to try Vestratto. I am sure he will be able to strike even harder, due to better heating of the incoming air and a greater thermal mass. Judging by the dimensions of the Vestratto bowl you have given, its internal size cannot be increased by drilling, only if it is sawn off, as David Root did..
But the question arises - if I saw off the bowl to use the capsules, will the heating principle laid down by the developers be violated?The air must first go between the outer wall and the wall of the bowl (in my case, the capsule) and then pass through the bottom of the capsule, rushing to the exit. In this case, the capsule must be tightly clamped inside the tip. Will I be able to provide this by sawing and refining. And the question also arises -will there be a difference in the modified Vestratto compared to the existing Hyperdyn? Considering the cost of Vestratto..
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chlorophyll_man
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Thank you for your research! I also have Dynavap mesh capsules, and I didn't know the size of the Anvil bowl yet, but I was sure they would fit in the bowl. But I don't want to use them, because it's unacceptable for a minimalist to serve capsules of different sizes.
By the way, Hyperdyn works just fine with capsules! Also, I noticed that on my micro-quantities of the loaded material, Hyperdyn hits harder than TM 2, which is not surprising, because for the first seconds in TM2, unheated air can idle through the flower, evaporating, but not activating thc. In Hyperdyn, I start to draw air only after a click, i.e. the flower is fully warmed up and there is no idle movement of air through the flower.
All these thoughts motivated me to try Vestratto. I am sure he will be able to strike even harder, due to better heating of the incoming air and a greater thermal mass. Judging by the dimensions of the Vestratto bowl you have given, its internal size cannot be increased by drilling, only if it is sawn off, as David Root did..
But the question arises - if I saw off the bowl to use the capsules, will the heating principle laid down by the developers be violated?The air must first go between the outer wall and the wall of the bowl (in my case, the capsule) and then pass through the bottom of the capsule, rushing to the exit. In this case, the capsule must be tightly clamped inside the tip. Will I be able to provide this by sawing and refining. And the question also arises -will there be a difference in the modified Vestratto compared to the existing Hyperdyn? Considering the cost of Vestratto..
I think you would be better off with the Tornado because it has a larger bowl to accommodate your capsules. I would expect to see some performance loss with capsules in the Tornado but I haven't tried so I don't know. It could perhaps be mitigated by heating for slightly longer/further away from the click discs/using a larger flame.
WhyWhyWhy?
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Thank you for the idea. indeed, Tornado is more suitable for capsules. The only thing I don't understand is how to install a mouthpiece on a Tornado for dry use.
David Root
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Read my earlier post. Works perfectly . The capsules is a perfect fit. No it does not rattle. I cut X in the ring for air flow.
You gotta sacrifice a bowl for the threads and clicker.
Works so well, the end of the capsules get gunked up and need to be cleaned.
David
You gotta sacrifice a bowl for the threads and clicker.
Works so well, the end of the capsules get gunked up and need to be cleaned.
David
WhyWhyWhy?
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Which induction heater is better for Vestratto? Wand or Flare ? I ordered Wand and I'm thinking of buying Flare as well, because it seems to be more powerful..But isn't this an unnecessary purchase?
Do you have any experience comparing with Hyperdyn? Is there a difference?
Do you have any experience comparing with Hyperdyn? Is there a difference?
David Root
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Not a clue.
David
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